Have we reached cigarmageddon?


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Don't worry about me....I am pretty thick skinned  There is a lot of "moon howling" everywhere at the moment.  It will die down as folks adjust their expectations and/or their buying habits. HSA

Yes. The price hikes, especially on the Cohiba and Trinidad front has a lot of people on other cigar forums bummed out.  Those who are new to the hobby cannot comprehend what it will cost them to even

Don't fall for the chicken little syndrome. Every boom is followed by a bust 😉  

My better half just texted me going through Heathrow. She reports back that there are no Cuban cigars at the Duty Free, None. Zero. Sweet %$#@ all! Not even a crappy three-pack of RYJ #1

Lady behind the counter said the suppliers have simply stopped supplying.

I fear we may well be in full-on cigarmageddon.

Cherish your stashes.

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16 hours ago, Hoepssa said:

Homer Simpson knew these well...

If more and more young becoming cigar enthusiasts, they felt no worry about that. For them, quality cigars cost very much from the time they start this hobby.

I definitely remember buying a lot from 2020 through 2021 and constantly hearing about how crazy the prices were. Now I feel they are crazy and someone else will start buying.

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Since they don't care about improving quality in terms of the draw and consistency of their cigars, I am done. If I pay luxury prices I expect a luxury product that works consistently. There are way too many good NC's out there that are dependable, affordable and consistent with great flavors. Love Cuban tobacco but the "Cuban twang" doesn't justify those outrageous prices. 

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4 hours ago, Chibearsv said:

I don't know if I can pay for the retirement lake house by selling my stash....but I might be able to buy the boat 😁

So true story, a cigar buddy and I had lengthy discussions about each putting in X dollars and fill a few closets (of Coolidors) w premium cuban cigars last summer. We didn’t pull the trigger primarily as we would never have resold anything and our wives would have killed us. We also were a tad concerned that kind of cigar delivery might garner us some unwanted attention from the authorities  Turns out we could have sold on BR and made a killing. Oh well. 

I keep a Spreadsheet which tracks the boxes I have and every year or so I actually take inventory. But I know my burn rate and track my buying so I have a decent idea of count which I note every few months. I put down my totals as of this week as it could be at personal high water mark. I also noted “cigarmageddon May have been reached this month”
I have plenty and will supplement along the way in the future when I’m moved by the spirit. It will be interesting to see if the recent changes change the pace and/or type of my acquisitions or if the spirit continues to move me at a breakneck pace. Trinidad and Cohiba are out for the foreseeable future regrettably. 
Do I think we have reached my personal cigarmageddon?  Yes. What does that really mean? I have no idea yet. 

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That 5th Avenue price list is interesting. Most important thing is: relax everybody, lots of great cigars will still be available at similar prices to before. Sure supply is down, but Habanos is not trying to triple the prices of your Monte no.2, RyJ Ex4, Partagas E2 etc. We can all learn to live without Cohiba & Trinidad.
 

It did look to me like the Churchill / DC sizes see bigger than usual increases though. Is that right?

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On 5/19/2022 at 12:54 PM, El Presidente said:

g" everywhere at the moment.  It will die down as folks adjust their expectations and/or their buying habits. HSA has

grabbed 3 boxes from host last couple months, I'm so glad to stock some my favorite Montecristo. :) 

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5 hours ago, RDB said:

That 5th Avenue price list is interesting. Most important thing is: relax everybody, lots of great cigars will still be available at similar prices to before. Sure supply is down, but Habanos is not trying to triple the prices of your Monte no.2, RyJ Ex4, Partagas E2 etc. We can all learn to live without Cohiba & Trinidad.
 

It did look to me like the Churchill / DC sizes see bigger than usual increases though. Is that right?

As long as they don’t triple the price of my E2’s and Montecristo regular production, it’s fine 😄 

And I’ll still be buying Cohiba and maybe some Trini here and there, as I don’t smoke those a whole lot anyway. I think I can still justify a 5er here and there, even at the new prices. Would be a different story if my Cohiba/Trinidad consumption was higher. 

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My friend begged me to go in on some CC with him in 2018.   I downloaded someones spreadsheet to track your cigar purchases it has a column that calculates years and months on the cigars.   I was kinda shocked when I scrolled to bottom and saw the total on how much I had spent.  Now I am thinking I am glad I spent that much so I will have cigars to smoke through the current supply issues.   Still kicking myself for not buying a box of Fundadores.

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I went to a bar I'd been watching for awhile in January..  trini Reyes was $85 ea. I chose to have a cocktail instead.

Generally, with the prices we see in hand made or luxury things currently in the retail or service sector the only thing unreasonable is our attitudes and how little of that money goes to producers and manufacturers. 

I smoke a lot less than I used too, lifestyle more than anything. I still think smoke what and how you enjoy and keep things relative. 

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My friend begged me to go in on some CC with him in 2018.   I downloaded someones spreadsheet to track your cigar purchases it has a column that calculates years and months on the cigars.   I was kinda shocked when I scrolled to bottom and saw the total on how much I had spent.  Now I am thinking I am glad I spent that much so I will have cigars to smoke through the current supply issues.   Still kicking myself for not buying a box of Fundadores.

At least my spreadsheet column showing cost basis is onlyyyyy 5 digits
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On 5/21/2022 at 6:51 PM, AndrewNR said:

I went to a bar I'd been watching for awhile in January..  trini Reyes was $85 ea. I chose to have a cocktail instead.

Generally, with the prices we see in hand made or luxury things currently in the retail or service sector the only thing unreasonable is our attitudes and how little of that money goes to producers and manufacturers. 

I smoke a lot less than I used too, lifestyle more than anything. I still think smoke what and how you enjoy and keep things relative. 

Is that 85 AUS dollars or 85 US dollars. Big difference, no?

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8 hours ago, SCgarman said:

Is that 85 AUS dollars or 85 US dollars. Big difference, no?

Good god I wonder what the liquor prices were. 

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