Popular Post El Presidente Posted May 19 Popular Post Share Posted May 19 1 hour ago, MPS said: When the forum owner and vendor lists Montecristo no. 2 for under retail price and yet you still complain and call the cigars outrageously overpriced you deserve pushback. The opinion isn't reasonable at all. There is no gratitude or appreciation instead <moderated>. I'll revisit this thread in a few years and you will all still be here complaining. Don't worry about me....I am pretty thick skinned There is a lot of "moon howling" everywhere at the moment. It will die down as folks adjust their expectations and/or their buying habits. HSA has played their card. They will read none of the commentary and look solely at the numbers over the coming months. I will focus only on what I can control and ignore the melodrama. 23 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Smoke Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 My better half just texted me going through Heathrow. She reports back that there are no Cuban cigars at the Duty Free, None. Zero. Sweet %$#@ all! Not even a crappy three-pack of RYJ #1 Lady behind the counter said the suppliers have simply stopped supplying. I fear we may well be in full-on cigarmageddon. Cherish your stashes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post El Presidente Posted May 19 Popular Post Share Posted May 19 6 minutes ago, Cold Smoke said: My better half just texted me going through Heathrow. She reports back that there are no Cuban cigars at the Duty Free, None. Zero. Sweet %$#@ all! Not even a crappy three-pack of RYJ #1 When the body is in trauma, it focuses on supplying blood to it's major organs in order to keep the host alive. UK retailers need to be fed before Duty free. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hoepssa Posted May 20 Popular Post Share Posted May 20 Homer Simpson knew these well... If more and more young becoming cigar enthusiasts, they felt no worry about that. For them, quality cigars cost very much from the time they start this hobby. 1 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philopez Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 https://www.cigaraficionado.com/article/cohiba-55-aniversario-hitting-market-with-enormous-price-tag Is it here, now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bijan Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 16 hours ago, Hoepssa said: Homer Simpson knew these well... If more and more young becoming cigar enthusiasts, they felt no worry about that. For them, quality cigars cost very much from the time they start this hobby. I definitely remember buying a lot from 2020 through 2021 and constantly hearing about how crazy the prices were. Now I feel they are crazy and someone else will start buying. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliano88 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Since they don't care about improving quality in terms of the draw and consistency of their cigars, I am done. If I pay luxury prices I expect a luxury product that works consistently. There are way too many good NC's out there that are dependable, affordable and consistent with great flavors. Love Cuban tobacco but the "Cuban twang" doesn't justify those outrageous prices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BEVOSREVENGE Posted May 20 Popular Post Share Posted May 20 15 minutes ago, Juliano88 said: Since they don't care about improving quality in terms of the draw and consistency of their cigars, I am done. If I pay luxury prices I expect a luxury product that works consistently. Agree, don't mind paying a premium for a truly premium product; however, with HSA products at present, it is an expensive low probability bet and nothing more. Thank God, I have thousands of cubans (cohiba and non-cohiba) to smoke until they figure that out. I don't think demand is as inelastic as they think. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chibearsv Posted May 20 Popular Post Share Posted May 20 I don't know if I can pay for the retirement lake house by selling my stash....but I might be able to buy the boat 😁 6 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhinoww Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 4 hours ago, Chibearsv said: I don't know if I can pay for the retirement lake house by selling my stash....but I might be able to buy the boat 😁 So true story, a cigar buddy and I had lengthy discussions about each putting in X dollars and fill a few closets (of Coolidors) w premium cuban cigars last summer. We didn’t pull the trigger primarily as we would never have resold anything and our wives would have killed us. We also were a tad concerned that kind of cigar delivery might garner us some unwanted attention from the authorities Turns out we could have sold on BR and made a killing. Oh well. I keep a Spreadsheet which tracks the boxes I have and every year or so I actually take inventory. But I know my burn rate and track my buying so I have a decent idea of count which I note every few months. I put down my totals as of this week as it could be at personal high water mark. I also noted “cigarmageddon May have been reached this month” I have plenty and will supplement along the way in the future when I’m moved by the spirit. It will be interesting to see if the recent changes change the pace and/or type of my acquisitions or if the spirit continues to move me at a breakneck pace. Trinidad and Cohiba are out for the foreseeable future regrettably. Do I think we have reached my personal cigarmageddon? Yes. What does that really mean? I have no idea yet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ford2112 Posted May 21 Popular Post Share Posted May 21 I am new to the hobby again as of last year. I bought quite a bit before this latest hike so I have only that as a frame of reference. I will continue to buy certain regular production as I see fit. I smoke a lot ,at least 5 cigars a week ,sometimes more. At this rate I would be out in a couple years and I'm not willing to give up. I am waiting to see what happens. I don't see things as doom and gloom. Hell I spend thousands of dollars on fishing gear alone. C'est la vie. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealrsr Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 7 hours ago, Philopez said: https://www.cigaraficionado.com/article/cohiba-55-aniversario-hitting-market-with-enormous-price-tag Is it here, now? If i'ma pay that for an hour then...well I will censor myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcarlson Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Is there a case to be made for this? Looking for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDB Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 That 5th Avenue price list is interesting. Most important thing is: relax everybody, lots of great cigars will still be available at similar prices to before. Sure supply is down, but Habanos is not trying to triple the prices of your Monte no.2, RyJ Ex4, Partagas E2 etc. We can all learn to live without Cohiba & Trinidad. It did look to me like the Churchill / DC sizes see bigger than usual increases though. Is that right? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Gracias Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 On 5/19/2022 at 12:54 PM, El Presidente said: g" everywhere at the moment. It will die down as folks adjust their expectations and/or their buying habits. HSA has grabbed 3 boxes from host last couple months, I'm so glad to stock some my favorite Montecristo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdm_86 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 5 hours ago, RDB said: That 5th Avenue price list is interesting. Most important thing is: relax everybody, lots of great cigars will still be available at similar prices to before. Sure supply is down, but Habanos is not trying to triple the prices of your Monte no.2, RyJ Ex4, Partagas E2 etc. We can all learn to live without Cohiba & Trinidad. It did look to me like the Churchill / DC sizes see bigger than usual increases though. Is that right? As long as they don’t triple the price of my E2’s and Montecristo regular production, it’s fine 😄 And I’ll still be buying Cohiba and maybe some Trini here and there, as I don’t smoke those a whole lot anyway. I think I can still justify a 5er here and there, even at the new prices. Would be a different story if my Cohiba/Trinidad consumption was higher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerPimp Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 My friend begged me to go in on some CC with him in 2018. I downloaded someones spreadsheet to track your cigar purchases it has a column that calculates years and months on the cigars. I was kinda shocked when I scrolled to bottom and saw the total on how much I had spent. Now I am thinking I am glad I spent that much so I will have cigars to smoke through the current supply issues. Still kicking myself for not buying a box of Fundadores. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewNR Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 I went to a bar I'd been watching for awhile in January.. trini Reyes was $85 ea. I chose to have a cocktail instead. Generally, with the prices we see in hand made or luxury things currently in the retail or service sector the only thing unreasonable is our attitudes and how little of that money goes to producers and manufacturers. I smoke a lot less than I used too, lifestyle more than anything. I still think smoke what and how you enjoy and keep things relative. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRob Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 My friend begged me to go in on some CC with him in 2018. I downloaded someones spreadsheet to track your cigar purchases it has a column that calculates years and months on the cigars. I was kinda shocked when I scrolled to bottom and saw the total on how much I had spent. Now I am thinking I am glad I spent that much so I will have cigars to smoke through the current supply issues. Still kicking myself for not buying a box of Fundadores.At least my spreadsheet column showing cost basis is onlyyyyy 5 digits 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nevrknow Posted May 22 Popular Post Share Posted May 22 21 minutes ago, ChicagoRob said: At least my spreadsheet column showing cost basis is onlyyyyy 5 digits 5? Rookie! 😂😂😂 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heels82 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 On 5/17/2022 at 10:04 PM, Rhinoww said: Talk amongst yourselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakebarnes Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 20 hours ago, Nevrknow said: 5? Rookie! 😂😂😂 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SCgarman Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 On 5/21/2022 at 6:51 PM, AndrewNR said: I went to a bar I'd been watching for awhile in January.. trini Reyes was $85 ea. I chose to have a cocktail instead. Generally, with the prices we see in hand made or luxury things currently in the retail or service sector the only thing unreasonable is our attitudes and how little of that money goes to producers and manufacturers. I smoke a lot less than I used too, lifestyle more than anything. I still think smoke what and how you enjoy and keep things relative. Is that 85 AUS dollars or 85 US dollars. Big difference, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duxnutz Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 8 hours ago, SCgarman said: Is that 85 AUS dollars or 85 US dollars. Big difference, no? Good god I wonder what the liquor prices were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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