griller Posted October 5, 2021 Posted October 5, 2021 4 hours ago, njpinette said: Nothing Cohiba, Bolivar or Partagas This for me, too.
Chibearsv Posted October 5, 2021 Posted October 5, 2021 Lusitania Sir Winston Esplendido Not because of price but rather because I'd be reluctant to give any cigar that takes over 90 minutes to smoke to a CC beginner. 4
Puros Y Vino Posted October 5, 2021 Posted October 5, 2021 To give a new smoker any of the following is a travesty. As I know either of these will be lucky to survive past the halfway point. Noobs get some kind of PC (minus SIglo II). Cohiba Esplendido. HU Sir Winston BHK 3
Chibearsv Posted October 5, 2021 Posted October 5, 2021 5 hours ago, El Presidente said: That's why you have no friends more than likely. I am happy to share the love with Limited Edition FOH cigar stands to 3 posters! Perhaps you and Ken could autograph those stands to make them Limited Edition? That would be pretty cool although they'd probably go right to ebay 🤑🤣
GaryK 54 Posted October 5, 2021 Posted October 5, 2021 Top three not to give to a newbie: BRC RASS PSD4
HDGSN Posted October 5, 2021 Posted October 5, 2021 Are we talking cigars to avoid because of flavor differences to NC or to avoid because of strength? NCs went through a love affair with ligero so I’m not sure new-to-Cubans needs to be worried about strength if the person smoked NCs. In that case, you might want to avoid flavors that are far apart from NCs, but I always like to give someone new to Cubans something with the Cuban twang. Give JL1 Party Short PLMC Not Give BRC Monte 4 RG Perla If new to cigars and Cubans, I might go with: Give QDO 50 Fonseca No. 1 SLR Regio Not Give BBF Party 898 RyJ Cazadores 2
Wailbait Posted October 5, 2021 Posted October 5, 2021 Nothing Cohiba because I refuse to kowtow to the perceived hype or for someone doing it for “the gram” No Robaina. Doesn’t feel like a “typical” Cuban. No Upmann 46. For whatever reason I find that new smokers gravitate towards the Upmanns. The 46 isn’t typical to the marca so I probably wouldn’t want to disabuse them of their notions. 1
Paladin865 Posted October 5, 2021 Posted October 5, 2021 If those new to cigars are women, I would go with a mild, like any thing Foncesca or Montecristo Open Junior. I call those, Cubans on training wheels.
Cigar Surgeon Posted October 5, 2021 Posted October 5, 2021 I think many of the responses show the lack of understanding of the NC market. If the person is an NC smoker you have no idea whether all they smoke is Connecticut Shade, at which point they may find a large swath of Cubans to be significantly stronger than what they're used to. On the flip side they absolutely could be smoking My Father or Espinosa pepper bombs, at which point subtle and nuanced Cuban options might be lost on them. There is a very, very large range of flavor profiles and despite the association of 'pepper bombs' with NCs, strong peppery NCs represent a very small portion of the market, and mild and creamy Connecticut Shades represent the largest portion of the market. With all of that said: Going in blindly I'd be avoiding the top and bottom and middle. So no Cohiba, no Vegueros , no Ramon Allones. 4
Drguano Posted October 5, 2021 Posted October 5, 2021 A better way to put this would be to ask what cigars you would give to someone new to Cuban cigars. I would not give a long cigar or a rich/strong cigar. I would not give an Upmann No.2 but perhaps a Diplomaticos No2. I would not give a Bolivar Royal Corona but I would give a Hoyo de Monterrey No.2. I would not give a Cohiba Secreto but I would give a Partagas Short 4
Enduin Posted October 5, 2021 Posted October 5, 2021 For someone new to CCs I would avoid long and skinnies so - PLMC - Cohiba Especiales - Cohiba Lanceros 1
LordAnubis Posted October 5, 2021 Posted October 5, 2021 17 hours ago, El Presidente said: Generally it's people with friends and under that age of 65 who use it. Your excused. A twenty-dollar note is called a "lobster" because of its red colour. A fifty-dollar note is also known colloquially as a "pineapple" or the "Big Pineapple" because of its yellow colour. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slang_terms_for_money Say what? I thought a 20 was a watermelon? I say this cos there's a notion of "give the new guy the shit cigars cos if they dont like it then its ok if they bin it". I would NOT do that, so i would not give them Quinteros, JLP, Guantanamera. Sure these can be appreciated for what they are by smokers, but if you are having your first cigar you want to be wowed by it and get into it, not smoke floor sweepings and be disapointed. A new smoker i WOULD give them HUHC, Bolivar Petite Corona, Partagas Short. If they are a cigar smoker, but never tried a cuban and i know they would smoke a full cigar, it would be Punch Punch, BBF, or Bolivar Petite Corona. 1
westg Posted October 5, 2021 Posted October 5, 2021 16 minutes ago, LordAnubis said: Say what? I thought a 20 was a watermelon? I say this cos there's a notion of "give the new guy the shit cigars cos if they dont like it then its ok if they bin it". I would NOT do that, so i would not give them Quinteros, JLP, Guantanamera. Sure these can be appreciated for what they are by smokers, but if you are having your first cigar you want to be wowed by it and get into it, not smoke floor sweepings and be disapointed. A new smoker i WOULD give them HUHC, Bolivar Petite Corona, Partagas Short. If they are a cigar smoker, but never tried a cuban and i know they would smoke a full cigar, it would be Punch Punch, BBF, or Bolivar Petite Corona. Yep watermelon as well...$100 notes are called Don Bradmans
GVan Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 Boli period - BBF, BRC or tubos #1 (unless they tell me they like full NC's) SP Beli or SPNP - an acquired taste and very hard to come by - probably wouldn't appreciate them. HUP Mag 46 although I might offer a Mag 50 if they had time. Other than those I'd walk them through anything else smoking well and let them pick.
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