Impact of the new Coronavirus where you are?

[Ken Gargett]

26 minutes ago, helix said:

tongue in cheek,,,,,,,,if the country that developed such a bio weapon were to unleash it on there own population first, get herd immunity first , get back up and running economically first , new world order..... where's 007  

yeah, i think we might have crossed into little-green-aliens-are-behind-this territory

[JamesKPolkEsq]

3 minutes ago, Ken Gargett said:

yeah, i think we might have crossed into little-green-aliens-are-behind-this territory

A slightly more plausible theory ?

[helix]

Preposterous  indeed . 

[helix]

Will make a great movie. Nicolas Cage LOL

[helix]

Its real tight here in west Quebec . No non essential travel between municipalities unless the provincial police with enhanced provincial powers at check points decide whether you can proceed.  I am on the border of Quebec and Ontario same deal. Being taken very seriously by most everyone staying home. We will get through this .

[Rhinoww]

Odd juxtaposition here. Ohio Gov says he is thinking of a thoughtful limited reopening on May 1, while the news last night talked about the overflow beds that were just set up in the convention center for possible hospital overflow. 
 

my bet is that there is currently sufficient hospital space if current lockdown conditions continue into the future. Local testing remains very hard to local and is still limited to those who meet criteria. 
 

next month will be interesting 

[TheFullMontecristo]

11 hours ago, helix said:

Its real tight here in west Quebec . No non essential travel between municipalities unless the provincial police with enhanced provincial powers at check points decide whether you can proceed.  I am on the border of Quebec and Ontario same deal. Being taken very seriously by most everyone staying home. We will get through this .

unless you are Prime Minister Justin Trudeau who tells the country not to visit family on the Easter weekend then proceeds to visit with his family over the Easter weekend.  

[JamesKPolkEsq]

2.5% to 4.2% of California's SF Bay Area test positive for coronavirus antibodies.

This puts to rest the hypothesis that there existed a large percentage of the population that had been previously exposed. 

There are several very positive developments on the treatment front:

Covalesent plasma therapy - good evidence that it works, available today

Acterma - approved drug for Rheumatoid Arthritis, strong promise to arrest CRS caused by COVID-19 

Remdesivir - Phase 3 drug nucleotide analog, early evidence that it works well on severe cases! 

Avigan - Approved in Japan, prevents viral RNA reproduction, effective for orthmyxoviruses and potentially coronavirus 

Two of the most promising treatments originate from California - You're welcome everyone ?

[garnett]

On ‎4‎/‎16‎/‎2020 at 9:29 AM, helix said:

Not to go all conspiracy theory but if  this virus was developed in the lab in Wuhan , and is as such, a virus developed to be a form of  weaponized biological agent and not a naturally occurring pathogen ,  it may explain its unusually potent and contagious nature . 

https://nationalpost.com/news/its-possible-a-wuhan-disease-lab-is-the-focus-of-suspicion-and-conspiracy-theories-about-covid-19s-origins

Formerly being an accredited NSF 49 Biological Safety Cabinet Certifier  (https://www.nsf.org/services/by-industry/pharma-biotech/biosafety-cabinetry/biosafety-cabinet-field-certifier-accreditation) and having worked in BSL level 3 containment labs , I suggest It being near impossible for an accidental release of a pathogen from such a facility .

near impossible but not impossible.

[dominattorney]

Trying to get back on the ball, ill say that I have been suffering severe psychological symptoms as a result of severe social distancing. I realized the impact when I found the dead and company show was canceled in July in Boulder. My stepdaughter called me crying. She is 24. I nearly lost it myself, then caught myself with the "ita only a concert" comforting thoughts. But the more I ruminate on it the more serious I feel these little emotional inconveniences become over time as they accumulate. I haven't lifted weights properly in 5 weeks. I feel despair over what would previously have been written off as minor inconvenience. I suspect I am not alone here. Zoom doesn't cut it for me, and the more time that goes by, the more I feel the social impact must be pretty dire for folks with mental illnesses or depressed tendencies. I am a stalwart by nature and this is really getting to me. If anyone needs anyone to talk to, pm me if you don't have anyone else close who understands what this does to a person mentally. I don't think it's a sign of weakness to express these thoughts and it took me a bit of time to come around to this realization. 

[ElJavi76]

Cause we need more bad news right now..

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandrasternlicht/2020/04/16/140-plus-coronavirus-survivors-retest-positive-for-disease-in-south-korea-raising-questions-about-immunity/

Survivors testing positive after having recovered. Face palm!

[Rhinoww]

Was on the phone today w a colleague who lives in Brooklyn next to a 150 bed community hospital. For days he saw tents outside and assumed they were for testing. He took a walk yesterday. They are overflow morgues when the refrigerated trailer is full. That’s crazy depressing. 
 

I live in Ohio. Gov said yesterday obliquely that there would be some opening after May 1. Today the news showed that the convention center was set up as an overflow hospital. Seems there is a disconnect. Hoping for the best but preparing otherwise. 
 

and you wonder why I have become a hermit smoking cigars all day?

[CaptainQuintero]

4 hours ago, dominattorney said:

Trying to get back on the ball, ill say that I have been suffering severe psychological symptoms as a result of severe social distancing. I realized the impact when I found the dead and company show was canceled in July in Boulder. My stepdaughter called me crying. She is 24. I nearly lost it myself, then caught myself with the "ita only a concert" comforting thoughts. But the more I ruminate on it the more serious I feel these little emotional inconveniences become over time as they accumulate. I haven't lifted weights properly in 5 weeks. I feel despair over what would previously have been written off as minor inconvenience. I suspect I am not alone here. Zoom doesn't cut it for me, and the more time that goes by, the more I feel the social impact must be pretty dire for folks with mental illnesses or depressed tendencies. I am a stalwart by nature and this is really getting to me. If anyone needs anyone to talk to, pm me if you don't have anyone else close who understands what this does to a person mentally. I don't think it's a sign of weakness to express these thoughts and it took me a bit of time to come around to this realization. 

 Since great pointers dom, hope that you're in a bit of a better place after letting off a little steam. There's also a FoH club if you or anyone else needs a place to let off some pressure or hammer some thoughts down on the keyboard

https://www.friendsofhabanos.com/forum/forum/92-welcome-to-black-dog/

  There's no requirement of an illness or diagnosis etc needed, open to anyone who needs it, even if it's just too read along and know you're not going through issues alone

[dominattorney]

4 minutes ago, CaptainQuintero said:

 Since great pointers dom, hope that you're in a bit of a better place after letting off a little steam. There's also a FoH club if you or anyone else needs a place to let off some pressure or hammer some thoughts down on the keyboard

https://www.friendsofhabanos.com/forum/forum/92-welcome-to-black-dog/

  There's no requirement of an illness or diagnosis etc needed, open to anyone who needs it, even if it's just too read along and know you're not going through issues alone

@CaptainQuintero great point and good idea for a club. I would venture that a lot of us in this forum are male and victim to the trope of the stiff upper lip. I will check out the club tomorrow. Hope you and yours are well. 

[scap99]

Texas governor is starting to partially reopen the state beginning Monday....

Wife and I have been working from home for a solid month now, and as much as I want to get back to normal (what's normal, anyway) I feel like it's too soon.  Guess we will see. 

Stay safe and be well, everyone.

[Habana Mike]

I heard Jacksonville FL in the US are opening their beaches... Expecting another spike 2-3 weeks from now.

Perhaps that's part of the plan to try to build herd immunity.

 

[cigcars]

[nKostyan]

There is a bit of news from Russia. The self-isolation regime is in effect until the end of April. These measures were taken in advance four weeks ago, but the peak of the disease occurred only this week. Many people are already tired of isolation and go outside. Since this week, the Moscow authorities have introduced passes for movement around the city. Doctors say that the percentage of asymptomatic diseases increases every week - the virus adapts. The weather also does not allow you to relax: the winter was warm and almost without snow, but this week it snows every day.
Children learn remotely, and they are comfortable at home.
I went to the store one time, bought food for 2 weeks - I try to keep contacts to a minimum.
I work at home and in the garden, play sports, smoke cigars and watch movies.
Hello everyone, take care of yourself and your relatives from this infection.

[Ken Gargett]

8 minutes ago, nKostyan said:

There is a bit of news from Russia. The self-isolation regime is in effect until the end of April. These measures were taken in advance four weeks ago, but the peak of the disease occurred only this week. Many people are already tired of isolation and go outside. Since this week, the Moscow authorities have introduced passes for movement around the city. Doctors say that the percentage of asymptomatic diseases increases every week - the virus adapts. The weather also does not allow you to relax: the winter was warm and almost without snow, but this week it snows every day.
Children learn remotely, and they are comfortable at home.
I went to the store one time, bought food for 2 weeks - I try to keep contacts to a minimum.
I work at home and in the garden, play sports, smoke cigars and watch movies.
Hello everyone, take care of yourself and your relatives from this infection.

thanks for the report. amazing how different countries having different experiences.

stay safe. 

[Rhinoww]

8 hours ago, Habana Mike said:

I heard Jacksonville FL in the US are opening their beaches... Expecting another spike 2-3 weeks from now.

Perhaps that's part of the plan to try to build herd immunity.

 

My in laws live near JAX beach. They drove by yesterday (did not stop). Said the parking lots were nearly full at the beach. Crazy. It’s like they stay home for a few weeks and poof it’s gone. 
 

spanish fly lasted for what, over a year. The second wave was deadlier than WWI. 

[SigmundChurchill]

2 hours ago, Rhinoww said:

My in laws live near JAX beach. They drove by yesterday (did not stop). Said the parking lots were nearly full at the beach. Crazy. It’s like they stay home for a few weeks and poof it’s gone. 
 

spanish fly lasted for what, over a year. The second wave was deadlier than WWI. 

Wow!  That’s some powerful Spanish fly!  What, did you get that stuff from Bill Cosby?

????

[99call]

12 hours ago, Habana Mike said:

I heard Jacksonville FL in the US are opening their beaches... Expecting another spike 2-3 weeks from now.

Perhaps that's part of the plan to try to build herd immunity.

 

People never learn.  Apparently Boris Johnson, is on record as saying the character (in JAWS) he thought was the true hero, was the Governor, who kept the beaches open, whilst dead kids were washing up.  Charming. 

 

[Rhinoww]

5 hours ago, SigmundChurchill said:

Wow!  That’s some powerful Spanish fly!  What, did you get that stuff from Bill Cosby?

????

Who doesn’t like a little Spanish fly. 

[CaptainQuintero]

3 hours ago, 99call said:

People never learn.  Apparently Boris Johnson, is on record as saying the character (in JAWS) he thought was the true hero, was the Governor, who kept the beaches open, whilst dead kids were washing up.  Charming. 

 

To be fair, and I don't defend politicians very often, he did say it back in 2006!

 "The real hero of Jaws is the mayor".

"A gigantic fish is eating all your constituents and he decides to keep the beaches open.

"OK, in that instance he was actually wrong. But in principle, we need more politicians like the mayor-- we are often the only obstacle against all the nonsense which is really a massive conspiracy against the taxpayer".

  I think it's important in normal times, but especially now when there's so much personal expectation and investment in what people see online to try and make sure stuff posted is accurate and/or in context.

  To be fair too, as long as people stayed on the beach and didn't go into the water then they would have been fine and dandy having an ice cream and waving two fingers up at Sharky 

[Stogiepuffer]

 

If this is true, you don't know what to believe..

 

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