Homer Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 None. They are all fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakebarnes Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Gonna pile on Monte and say that the worst EL was the Montecristo D EL 2005. Fireproof, no balance, more of a hot mess than a Bachelorette party in Nashville at 3am. For my regular production, I don't really get the Monte Open line. A little surprised to see the qd50, as I've had really amazing ones lately (the 54 is basically hot air though...). But as @El Presidentesays...at some point we'll see everything here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foursite12 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 RP--Another vote for HUHC. Doesn't taste even remotely like tobacco. LE--Haven't tried many, so can't comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cigcars Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 *That supposed new release of the Ramon Allones LE with the old green & white cigar band. BLAAAAAAAAAHHHHH.....NO flavor: NO fun. And Ramon Allones is one of my favorite Habano cigars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rckymtn22 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, cigcars said: *That supposed new release of the Ramon Allones LE with the old green & white cigar band. BLAAAAAAAAAHHHHH.....NO flavor: NO fun. And Ramon Allones is one of my favorite Habano cigars. The RA Allones extra LE? It isn't new though, came out in 2011ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirOne Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Or maybe RE and not EL (Paises Bajos Carat or UKPrivate stock 230 ?) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bijan Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 worst EL ish release for me was the Cuaba Diademas, tasted pretty bad, I have a review somewhere, I think literal garbage was part of my flavour notes worst regular production guantanamera but I guess that's machine made... So I don't know, but I'm definitely not a fan of the current vegueros. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCCubano Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 6 hours ago, jakebarnes said: Gonna pile on Monte and say that the worst EL was the Montecristo D EL 2005. Fireproof, no balance, more of a hot mess than a Bachelorette party in Nashville at 3am. For my regular production, I don't really get the Monte Open line. A little surprised to see the qd50, as I've had really amazing ones lately (the 54 is basically hot air though...). But as @El Presidentesays...at some point we'll see everything here Had two boxes of the D. My first box was spectacular which led me to purchase another one. Box #2 had very thick wrappers that would not burn if doused with a gallon of Coleman fuel. Really got me off EL's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDB Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 8 hours ago, Corylax18 said: They're so bad I refuse to even entertain trading/giving out any of the 10 boxes I was stupid enough to buy You bought ten boxes of a cigar you had never tried? I confess I am impressed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoliDan Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 21 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said: Not much Punch DNA. I can't disagree more. All of mine have been more 'Punchy' than Punch Punch recent releases. That crisp cedar and spice is so prominent in my 19/20 boxes. PSdP is my favorite recent release. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 22 hours ago, Puros Y Vino said: Montecristo Open Eagle. (lifeless and bland. Runner up Double Edmundo) Eagle worse than the Master? Or Junior? Impossible. And blasphemy on the DE...before 2017 I would agree. Had one since 2018? The best Monte IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakebarnes Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 5 hours ago, KCCubano said: Had two boxes of the D. My first box was spectacular which led me to purchase another one. Box #2 had very thick wrappers that would not burn if doused with a gallon of Coleman fuel. Really got me off EL's. Your experience in rd 2 reflects mine. Terrible burn due to thick wrappers, uninspiring flavor profile. Really turned me off of ELs for...well, since. Especially with so many things smoking well and for less at the time (Including the Gold Medal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edicion Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Regular: Montecristo Eagles LE: R&J Tacos (2018) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Tigre Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Monte 5 have not enjoyed any across age and box code. 🤷♂️ 🤷♀️ R&J Tacos What’s the deal with so many EL and fireproof wrappers….? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 39 minutes ago, La_Tigre said: Monte 5 have not enjoyed any across age and box code. Wow. Monte 5 has been my most reliable Monte for 20 years. Do you find them too punchy? They are probably the strongest Monte. Also, definitely not introduced since 2000... 46 minutes ago, La_Tigre said: What’s the deal with so many EL and fireproof wrappers….? Always been a recurring issue with ELs but less so since around 2011. Upper tapado leaf is thick and requires extra processing. It does always get it. Also thicker wrapper can easily separate or have too much space from the binder if not rolled properly causing poor burns. 4 hours ago, BoliDan said: I can't disagree more. All of mine have been more 'Punchy' than Punch Punch recent releases. That crisp cedar and spice is so prominent in my 19/20 boxes. PSdP is my favorite recent release. Yeah, haven't got any of that. They're definitely punchy, I'll give you that. And some are better than others but they are just a mess for me. Gone through 3 boxes over 18 months and pretty much the same. I find the Punch 48 is much more in line with the marca. Having some La Isla they aren't anything alike. In fact all of the recent Punch ERs (Duke, Preferidos and La isla) are all pretty similar in profile. SdP, not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigar Surgeon Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 On 6/26/2022 at 9:03 PM, Puros Y Vino said: 1. Regular Production (including LCDH). Montecristo Open Eagle. (lifeless and bland. Runner up Double Edmundo) 2. Limited Edition Trinidad Short Robustos T Seconded. 1. Montecristo Open Eagle / Montecristo Double Edmundo. 2. LE ... Romeo y Julieta Anejados I'd say it was as if I was smoking CC leaf farts, but I feel like even those would have more flavor. They're like the white bread of cigars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightonCorgi Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Am I one of the only fans of Double Edmundo's? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjkoala Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 On 6/26/2022 at 10:29 PM, Chas.Alpha said: Monte Open line. Never could figure out what they were thinking. I can see what they were thinking, but it was half baked and not realizing that people who don't smoke often want the flagship cigars (e.g., Monte 2, Monte 4, CoRo, PSD 4, PSP 2, etc). It's Ford making a 4 cylinder Mustang to please the masses, they'll probably have a ton sitting on the lot at the end of the month waiting to sell. People want the V8 not the 4 cylinder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puros Y Vino Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, tjkoala said: I can see what they were thinking, but it was half baked and not realizing that people who don't smoke often want the flagship cigars (e.g., Monte 2, Monte 4, CoRo, PSD 4, PSP 2, etc). It's Ford making a 4 cylinder Mustang to please the masses, they'll probably have a ton sitting on the lot at the end of the month waiting to sell. People want the V8 not the 4 cylinder. I think the Monte Open line was created to grab the casual/nascent smoker. Very light blends as to not put people off, etc. The tied in a golf motif to appeal to a certain market. I've heard a few wise beards tell me Davidoff did something similar with the Dom Perignon. They crafted a larger, mild cigar to lure in casual smokers who wanted to show off but not choke while smoking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoliDan Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 10 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said: Wow. Monte 5 has been my most reliable Monte for 20 years. Do you find them too punchy? They are probably the strongest Monte. Also, definitely not introduced since 2000... Always been a recurring issue with ELs but less so since around 2011. Upper tapado leaf is thick and requires extra processing. It does always get it. Also thicker wrapper can easily separate or have too much space from the binder if not rolled properly causing poor burns. Gone through 3 boxes over 18 months and pretty much the same. I find the Punch 48 is much more in line with the marca. Ouch that's tough. I've had better luck with them than 48s but only had 2 boxes of those so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Tigre Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 11 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said: Wow. Monte 5 has been my most reliable Monte for 20 years. Do you find them too punchy? They are probably the strongest Monte. Acrid, canoe, fireproof, wind tunnel, tent peg, rocket..all the appeal of an ammonia inhalant after getting your bell rung by a middle linebacker. 11 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said: Also, definitely not introduced since 2000... Titles longer than ”24:24 Friday and Weekend” are just too much of a challenge….. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjkoala Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 45 minutes ago, Puros Y Vino said: I think the Monte Open line was created to grab the casual/nascent smoker. Very light blends as to not put people off, etc. I mean I agree, but the Monte series isn't a very powerful cigar as is. Like walk into any humidor and grab what feels like 90% of NC cigars and the standard Monte feels more like a cake walk. With that perspective I think most smokers who dabble in both NC and CC would say that the Open series is way underpowered, even if by design. I would say your beginner at least wants to taste something if they're going to smell like smoke all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightonCorgi Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 53 minutes ago, Puros Y Vino said: I think the Monte Open line was created to grab the casual/nascent smoker. Very light blends as to not put people off, etc. The tied in a golf motif to appeal to a certain market. I've heard a few wise beards tell me Davidoff did something similar with the Dom Perignon. They crafted a larger, mild cigar to lure in casual smokers who wanted to show off but not choke while smoking. The Monte Open lines excels in this actually. Cleaner after taste like a vintage cigars. The Open's have their place and setting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypots Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 hours ago, BrightonCorgi said: Am I one of the only fans of Double Edmundo's? I love them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puros Y Vino Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, tjkoala said: I mean I agree, but the Monte series isn't a very powerful cigar as is. Like walk into any humidor and grab what feels like 90% of NC cigars and the standard Monte feels more like a cake walk. With that perspective I think most smokers who dabble in both NC and CC would say that the Open series is way underpowered, even if by design. I would say your beginner at least wants to taste something if they're going to smell like smoke all day. 4 minutes ago, BrightonCorgi said: The Monte Open lines excels in this actually. Cleaner after taste like a vintage cigars. The Open's have their place and setting. So, in essence. Habanos marketing got this right? 😜 I don't particularly care for this line, but Habanos found a market that does? FWIW though. Most of the "vintage" boxes I see appearing on various FB groups, tend to come the "Open" line. Also, a few B&M's have older box codes which tells me they're not moving them quickly, therefore not restocking. So, in effect there is a market for these, but it may not be as large as Habanos hoped for? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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