It's Official! Washington Redskins Retired

[anacostiakat]

https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/7/13/21322495/official-the-redskins-have-officially-retired-their-team-name-and-logo

[KCCubano]

It's a sad day! I live in KC and if they try to change Chiefs name the shit will hit the fan

[MooseAMuffin]

7 minutes ago, KCCubano said:

It's a sad day! I live in KC and if they try to change Chiefs name the shit will hit the fan

I don't think they will make us change our name but I do think the Tomahawk Chop will go away and maybe even Warpaint ?

I'd be more upset about losing Warpaint than the chop. 

[PigFish]

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Seeing the team is now on their knees, perhaps the name Foreskins is more appropriate.

-the Pig

[alloy]

17 minutes ago, PigFish said:

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Seeing the team is now on their knees, perhaps the name Foreskins is more appropriate.

-the Pig

WOW!!! Where did that come from? Did Dan Snyder do anything to you to warrant that?

 

[SCgarman]

The Redskins have sucked for the last several decades and are no longer relevant as a competitive team. Even many fans have turned their backs on the team and it's disaster of an owner(s). So does it really matter what they are called? 

[KCCubano]

1 hour ago, MooseAMuffin said:

I don't think they will make us change our name but I do think the Tomahawk Chop will go away and maybe even Warpaint ?

I'd be more upset about losing Warpaint than the chop. 

I dont think they can stop Tomahawk Chop in 3rd quarter when 40,000 fans are 3 sheets in the wind! 

[MooseAMuffin]

5 minutes ago, KCCubano said:

I dont think they can stop Tomahawk Chop in 3rd quarter when 40,000 fans are 3 sheets in the wind! 

Probably true!

[MrBirdman]

 

33 minutes ago, BoliDan said:

I'm not sure I want to see that logo on a helmet. 

And I shudder to think of what their mascot would be. 

[MrBirdman]

Curious to get @Ken Gargett’s take...

[rp99pts]

NFL is a joke.   Just wait til the players all stand for one anthem and take a knee for the other.   

[asudevil08]

Goodell is a puppet.  But this change has been a long time coming - not surprised at all, simply taking advantage of the political winds.  

[MooseAMuffin]

37 minutes ago, rp99pts said:

NFL is a joke.   Just wait til the players all stand for one anthem and take a knee for the other.   

I honestly hadn't even thought of this. That is going to create some interesting scenarios.

[NSXCIGAR]

I saw this coming as my High School mascot was also the Redskins. I grew up in New England. I first heard the talk about changing it around 1993. It was well understood that the outcry wasn't coming from the Native Americans but the young white Gen Xers. We laughed at that time. In 2001, as soon as the Gen Xers started gaining institutional and political power, the name was changed.

 

[teamrandr]

This thread will get locked

[Duxnutz]

World gone mad. Ordered some merchandise last night before they murder the logo. 

[El Presidente]

of all the days I am doing a review with ken 

[JohnS]

34 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

of all the days I am doing a review with ken 

I'd doublecheck the news with Arsenal Football Club, just to make sure. This Redskins news would be bad enough!

[Drguano]

If a mate gives you a nickname that you don’t like and you ask them not to call you that, you don’t call them that again. Unless  you’re a dick. A mate could say that they did not mean to offend or just stop using the nickname. This is a football team (or baseball or whatever) and fans or owners can come up with another name. How about the D.C. Comics?

[El Presidente]

Great Photo Dan 

[Deeg]

1 hour ago, teamrandr said:

This thread will get locked

It certainly should be, since it’s just a platform for political venting.

[PuffDaddie]

What a shame!

[El Presidente]

11 minutes ago, Deeg said:

It certainly should be, since it’s just a platform for political venting.

Only if people decide to do so.  

Handled properly, there is no reason it needs to be shut down. 

[Ken Gargett]

has been coming for ages. a while back, i hated the thought but lately, does not bother me at all. dan swore that it would not happen but when sponsors started threatening he caved faster than the skins secondary. with respect to the post above, i've heard claims from other native americans that they love the name and the team. but i am hardly in a position to judge from here. i really do not know. but if it genuinely causes hurt, and it certainly seems that there is no doubt that it does, surely time to change. 

one issue is that dan has made large contributions to the native american communities through his foundation (that might be why he gets some support for the name). you can bet that dan won't be continuing that. which is unfortunate. dan giving up the fight is about money. it is not about dan doing the right thing.

they were called something else before they became the redskins. no one is now bothered by that now but i'll bet there was plenty of screaming at the time. 

the colours remain. i gather they are trying hard to work in a name that they can use with the song. also, i gather they like the 'R' in the logo. 

lots of speculation about the new name. redtails was an early favourite. meant nothing to me but apparently refers to a group of black airmen from WWII? but seriously, every other team would be talking about getting themselves some tail, every time they played us. 

personally, i love the hogs. possibly the pigskins. i can even live with the sentinels (the washington team in the movie 'the replacements' - cracking film, great cast, even if a little absurd. every time i see the 'i will survive' scene in the jail cell, i end up in fits of giggles and tears. ditto the scenes with the pole-dancing cheerleaders). 

favourites at the moment seem to be the red wolves (i'd prefer just wolves) and the warriors. it is believed that dan likes the warriors. 

as for teams like the chiefs, just as it has been for the redskins, the problem is that there are the people with a genuine grievance in these matters (and these are the people who should have a say in these things) and then all those that think they should get on board (a mate calls them virtue signalers) simply because they think they should be seen to taking that position and then all those that just need a cause to make them relevant. they could not care what it is as long as they are tearing something down. 

anyone really think that once the skins have gone that they won't turn on teams like the chiefs or the yankees or even those slave-owning patriots or oppressive cowboys? 

of course, the fans will react exactly as per our friend suggests above, which is exactly how skins fans originally reacted. but once they turn their attention to these things, it is almost just a matter of time. may take years but anyone thinking that the redskins will be the last name change is kidding themselves. fans might tell themselves that their owners will never cave. faced with the loss of hundreds of millions of dollars, they'll cave. it may take years but just watch. 

now if anyone could have convinced us that changing the name of the skins would have meant winning more games, it would have gone years ago. that said, in this age of never-ending conspiracies, there are fans who are convinced that the umpires penalise us unfairly because of the name. so who knows, perhaps we will win more! 

but this is for me, without wanting to get political, very much like the gay marriage debate we had here. all sorts of screaming and yelling from all sides with predictions for the end of civilisation whichever way it went. two minutes after it was done, no one has given a toss again. it will be a monster non-issue a week after the change (one fan hates the idea because changing the name will rob him of watching phil simms declare how he will never use the name during commentary and then watching him keep forgetting). 

 

 

[Deeg]

49 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

Only if people decide to do so.  

Handled properly, there is no reason it needs to be shut down. 

I would respectfully counter that the entire first page is evidence that people already decided to do so. But wading into it will only make it worse, so I'll just steer clear.