Supplements, do you take them?


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59 minutes ago, RyviaUSA said:

I tried bromelain but didn’t notice a difference. Are you just taking a pill?

Yes, 1-500mg capsule per day. The brand is Superior Labs. It took about a month for me to notice. And I really didn't realize that until I ran out.

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i think you might be spot on.  i had not seen this thread before but this morning, was reading an article on just this (to be fair, the supplements and proteins for working out, i have no idea -

Is beer considered a supplement, or have we already covered that?...🤔

I also have a herniated disk in my back L4/L5 and my left knee is basically the knee of an 80yr old despite the fact I'm not even 40 yet. Daily vitamin and a vitamin D are nice - since I was alwa

Most people need vitamin D, omega 3 ,vitamin b complex,  zinc/magnesium(top 4)due to diet habits. I take these 4

also I eat grass fed liver(mineral dense)

eat shellfish (mineral dense)

 cook with ginger/turmeric (anti-inflammatory)

gluten and dairy free diet

around workouts take pre-jym and post-jym 

but if you are having issues, I’d see a functional medicine doctor. 

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At age 50 I take supplements for keeping inflammation and cholesterol (cholest-off) down and testosterone up...which is Ashwaganda and generic DIM Complex.  I eat 2 Brazil nuts a day for Selenium, psyllium husk, fish oil, and cacao nibs. Diet wise, I swap fish for red meat a lot, green leafies daily, and black beans.  Creatine gets added into the mix occasionally along with L-Glutamine.

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4 hours ago, Frozen North said:

My wife takes a hand full of supplements daily, and she’s always sick. I have never taken any, ever. I’m doing fine at my age of 58. They’re a waste of money.

i think you might be spot on. 

i had not seen this thread before but this morning, was reading an article on just this (to be fair, the supplements and proteins for working out, i have no idea - this is about general vitamins etc). basically, they are either unproven, the proof is minimal and still being reviewed or it is a load of rubbish. certainly nothing that would have anyone rushing out to buy the stuff. 

years ago, i was sent (i have a bundle of doctors in the family) to a highly regarded doctor at a local hospital for regular checkups etc. brilliant guy. he is retired now but back then was the doctor to most of the senior specialists and surgeons etc. 

needed to tell him the life history first visit and when i mentioned cuba and cigars, his response was, 'do you enjoy it?'

i said i did. 

"then don't stop". 

when he got to supplements, i told him what i took which was things like fish oil, milk thistle, vitamin B, multi-vitamins etc. 

he told me to collect them all and toss them in the nearest bin. and then use the money i saved on a better quality of red wine. 

best advice ever! 

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8 hours ago, Ken Gargett said:

i think you might be spot on. 

i had not seen this thread before but this morning, was reading an article on just this (to be fair, the supplements and proteins for working out, i have no idea - this is about general vitamins etc). basically, they are either unproven, the proof is minimal and still being reviewed or it is a load of rubbish. certainly nothing that would have anyone rushing out to buy the stuff. 

years ago, i was sent (i have a bundle of doctors in the family) to a highly regarded doctor at a local hospital for regular checkups etc. brilliant guy. he is retired now but back then was the doctor to most of the senior specialists and surgeons etc. 

needed to tell him the life history first visit and when i mentioned cuba and cigars, his response was, 'do you enjoy it?'

i said i did. 

"then don't stop". 

when he got to supplements, i told him what i took which was things like fish oil, milk thistle, vitamin B, multi-vitamins etc. 

he told me to collect them all and toss them in the nearest bin. and then use the money i saved on a better quality of red wine. 

best advice ever! 

Research studies about the efficacy of multivitamins and supplements conclude that they have no benefits on the long term health of individuals that take them. In the US vitamins and supplements are not regulated by the FDA. Their claims are unsubstantiated by science and often don't even contain what is on the label. A few years ago the New York State Attorney General's Office conducted a study of supplements from major retailers including GNC, Target, Walgreens and Walmart. They took samples and tested their contents. The results were that 4 out of 5 supplements tested did not contain any amount of the herbs on their label. They instead had fillers like powdered rice, asparagus, house plants, beans and vegetables. Some even had powdered wheat even though the bottle had a gluten free label. As long as you have a healthy diet, your nutritional needs will be met and supplementation is a waste of money.

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I take Thorne Elite Multivitamin, Thorne Vitamin D-5,000, and Thorne Super EPA Pro. Thorne products aren't cheap, but they are what they say they are. Some of their products (like the elite multivitamin) are NSF certified. I don't do it for any weight lifting benefit, but because I know my diet is lacking, and I need to make sure my health stays alright.

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13 hours ago, Ken Gargett said:

to be fair, the supplements and proteins for working out, i have no idea

I have been surprised how effective they are.  Because of the short time frames between the workout and the ingestion (pre in my case), you really notice the difference. Not talking about proteins but certainly amino acids. 

Cort RX I take at night and it has transformed my sleep pattern. Just relaxes the bejesus out of you. 

 

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On 8/31/2018 at 4:00 AM, Hookmaker said:

But you will come a long way with heavy dose potassium - you can’t really overdose.

Not true at all. You must remember that the lethal injection is, at least the lethal part, a large dose of potassium chloride. It used to be considered just about the perfect murder weapon until tests were developed to discover it, which is extremely difficult. Too much potassium will stop the heart, interfering with the sodium-potassium-ATPase osmotic pump mechanism and the bodies electrolyte balance. This affects cellular membrane potential and signal regulation.

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2 hours ago, IanMcLean68 said:

Not true at all. You must remember that the lethal injection is, at least the lethal part, a large dose of potassium chloride. It used to be considered just about the perfect murder weapon until tests were developed to discover it, which is extremely difficult. Too much potassium will stop the heart, interfering with the sodium-potassium-ATPase osmotic pump mechanism and the bodies electrolyte balance. This affects cellular membrane potential and signal regulation.

There's a slight little difference between orally administered and iv....

 

Personally, I am much in favour of @nino's therapy... :D

 

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Vitamin D3 and use Salt substitute for extra potassium. I was getting some cramping in my thighs over the summer after heavy squat and dead lift sessions so I needed the extra Potassium. When I work out I will drink water lightly spiked with pink salt, Epson Salt, and Salt substitute if I mix in some water flavoring like Mio it is like drinking Gatoraide but no sugar/glucose. 

 

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I find that the indiscriminate use of supplements is not very effective but there are many specific supplements that are very effective. Diet and lifestyles make a big difference. Getting a full blood panel from time to time and finding a Dr who knows how to read it.  there are so many issues that are cured with specific supplements. Magnesium, iron, potassium, etc.

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Glucosamine. I was sore and tight all  the time from working out and cycling.  I started 2000mg of glucosamine a day about 10 weeks ago and I'm feeling much looser and have little if the stiffness that plagued me for years. 

Melatonin. I used it a few years ago and found that too much is worse than none at all. One MG is plenty and five will keep me awake.

I'm not a big advocate for supplements and I believe that we get everything we need from a good diet. The glucosamine in particular I tried because people in my family said it worked for them.

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4 hours ago, joeypots said:

The glucosamine in particular I tried because people in my family said it worked for them.

My trainer is also  a big glucosamine advocate. 

Caveat however if you have or have had AFIB. Glucosamine can trigger PVC's. It certainly does with me.  Back up plan for AFIB'ers (current or previous) is Citrulline malate.  Almost as good for workouts and safe. 

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