dogs or cats - which are smarter?

[IanMcLean68]

Well, I don't know about smarter, but this one is definitely the boss.

 

[westg]

3 hours ago, Dmpotocek said:

I’ve had this conversation quite a bit but in the dog vs dog context. It ultimately boils down to what your definition of “intelligence” is. My wife and I have 3 dogs, 2 standard poodles (higher end of canine intelligence spectrum) and 1 English bulldog (right at the bottom of the intelligence spectrum). My definition of intelligence for a dog is simple: do you listen to me, do you make my life easier (or harder) and how much can I trust you. Bulldog: walks off leash, knows basic commands, when I leave the house I know he’s not going to destroy anything (or move) and if I leave him in the yard he will stay in the yard. The poodles are pretty much the opposite. If they don’t have enough stimulation, they’ll make their own. Kind of like a toddler with too much sugar. I love them all, but case and point:

It took about 50 tries to get this picture. In 49 of them bulldog looks exactly the same. The same can’t be said about the other two.

 

I don’t get a lot of say in our Xmas card design.

 

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An absolute classic ...great photo

[Ken Gargett]

thanks guys. walked away and just back.

sorry to jump on things like that but since relinquishing mod duties, i can't fix myself and i do know from that time that plenty of members are not comfortable with that. thanks.

 

[MIKA27]

12 hours ago, jerrybrowne said:

Abyssinian?

No...it's a Cat  

[MIKA27]

55 minutes ago, westg said:

An absolute classic ...great photo

Your last herf Westy? Steve @OZCUBAN must be on the right  

[cigcars]

2 hours ago, ElPuro said:

I think it's pretty common knowledge dogs are generally smarter. Me? I really want to own a monkey (or some version thereof).

   My high school teacher told us that when he was in Vietnam they caught and made a pet out of a monkey there...and all it did was eat and crap. And that monkey crapped EVERYWHERE. And one time he crapped right inside this G.I.'s boot...and he didn't find out until he put it on! He said, "AAAHHHH SH***T!!!" People I know who own pet monkeys keep a diaper on them...

[Fuzz]

4 hours ago, Dmpotocek said:

I’ve had this conversation quite a bit but in the dog vs dog context. It ultimately boils down to what your definition of “intelligence” is. My wife and I have 3 dogs, 2 standard poodles (higher end of canine intelligence spectrum) and 1 English bulldog (right at the bottom of the intelligence spectrum). My definition of intelligence for a dog is simple: do you listen to me, do you make my life easier (or harder) and how much can I trust you. Bulldog: walks off leash, knows basic commands, when I leave the house I know he’s not going to destroy anything (or move) and if I leave him in the yard he will stay in the yard. The poodles are pretty much the opposite. If they don’t have enough stimulation, they’ll make their own. Kind of like a toddler with too much sugar. I love them all, but case and point:

It took about 50 tries to get this picture. In 49 of them bulldog looks exactly the same. The same can’t be said about the other two.

 

I don’t get a lot of say in our Xmas card design.

 

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I've been told the trick to get a dog to look at the camera, is to put a treat on top of the lens. Have yet to try it myself. Hunter drools at the sight of food, so every pic will be of him drooling.

[Habana Mike]

8 minutes ago, Fuzz said:

I've been told the trick to get a dog to look at the camera, is to put a treat on top of the lens. Have yet to try it myself. Hunter drools at the sight of food, so every pic will be of him drooling.

Makes sense. Shall have to try that  as the damned dog always looks another way....

 

[Perla]

Dogs, we have Dachshounds. Smart, independence little creatures. Sorry it's upside. You see they do what they are up to. The truth they are very well educated.

[westg]

9 hours ago, ElPuro said:

I think it's pretty common knowledge dogs are generally smarter. Me? I really want to own a monkey (or some version thereof).

It is not actually....and did you know that cats have a greater sense of smell...they simply wont allow you to teach them...that little cat of mine  ...does fetch 

[ElPuro]

10 minutes ago, westg said:

It is not actually....and did you know that cats have a greater sense of smell...they simply wont allow you to teach them...that little cat of mine  ...does fetch 

Not saying there aren't smart cats, perhaps smarter than many dogs. But generally, though, I think science ranks dogs higher than cats. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201012/are-dogs-more-intelligent-cats.

Mind you, I don't profess expertise on the matter, just regurgitating. Still, I tend to believe it from personal experience and observation. 

[OZCUBAN]

These are my two British Blues and they are pretty smart originally descended from the British ally cats brought over by the Romans they are as smart as they need to be.and really what is the definition of smart, these two are smarter than some people I know ?

[Ken Gargett]

1 minute ago, OZCUBAN said:

These are my two British Blues and they are pretty smart originally descended from the British ally cats brought over by the Romans they are as smart as they need to be.and really what is the definition of smart, these two are smarter than some people I know ?

i think it goes without saying that had i put humans in the poll, we'd have come a dismal last.

[99call]

I'm a dog person.

I think the thing that freaks me out about cats is, if they had a nice old lady owner, that had them from a kitten for 15yrs, then they were presented with two buttons, if pressed:

1: Would enact and nice little robot to make their owner a cup of tea

the other 

2: Would chop their owner head clean off.

The cat would fully cognitively know the options, and ramifications............this is the thing! I would have no idea what the cat would choose. 

Their is something in their eyes, when you feed them, that says "place the food in the bowl, now get the hell out of my sight"

Thick or smart, they creep me out

[Warren]

On 12/12/2017 at 10:49 AM, Dmpotocek said:

I’ve had this conversation quite a bit but in the dog vs dog context. It ultimately boils down to what your definition of “intelligence” is. My wife and I have 3 dogs, 2 standard poodles (higher end of canine intelligence spectrum) and 1 English bulldog (right at the bottom of the intelligence spectrum). My definition of intelligence for a dog is simple: do you listen to me, do you make my life easier (or harder) and how much can I trust you. Bulldog: walks off leash, knows basic commands, when I leave the house I know he’s not going to destroy anything (or move) and if I leave him in the yard he will stay in the yard. The poodles are pretty much the opposite. If they don’t have enough stimulation, they’ll make their own. Kind of like a toddler with too much sugar. I love them all, but case and point:

It took about 50 tries to get this picture. In 49 of them bulldog looks exactly the same. The same can’t be said about the other two.

 

I don’t get a lot of say in our Xmas card design.

 

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I just wanted to ask you how much the head transplant cost 

[99call]

1 minute ago, Warren said:

I just wanted to ask you how much the head transplant cost 

Hands down the best post i've seen, in my time on the forum. Very funny Warren

[Bagman]

On 12/11/2017 at 12:13 AM, Ken Gargett said:

and while we are at it, where do brown bears rank?

i've always been a dog person and not a cat person. we know have empirical evidence.

 

https://cosmosmagazine.com/biology/it-s-official-dogs-are-smarter-than-cats

Probably because the world is a cat and Australia is a ball that it plays with

[cfc1016]

My little dude has been everywhere with me. He’s visited 30 states. He has fluent vocabularies in english, spanish, whistle, finger snap, hand signal, facial gesture, and as far as i can tell, telepathy. I trained him to follow protocols in a host of various scenarios, when he was young. Now when i need him to snap to, i just say ‘what do we do?’ He assesses the scenario, checks protocol, and does what he knows he’s supposed to. 

I still voted brown bear. They’re serious. 

[PatriciaV]

I can't choose between cats and dogs they’re both so adorable and fluffy.

[La_Tigre]

On 12/11/2017 at 6:49 PM, Dmpotocek said:

I’ve had this conversation quite a bit but in the dog vs dog context. It ultimately boils down to what your definition of “intelligence” is. My wife and I have 3 dogs, 2 standard poodles (higher end of canine intelligence spectrum) and 1 English bulldog (right at the bottom of the intelligence spectrum). My definition of intelligence for a dog is simple: do you listen to me, do you make my life easier (or harder) and how much can I trust you. Bulldog: walks off leash, knows basic commands, when I leave the house I know he’s not going to destroy anything (or move) and if I leave him in the yard he will stay in the yard. The poodles are pretty much the opposite. If they don’t have enough stimulation, they’ll make their own. Kind of like a toddler with too much sugar. I love them all, but case and point:

It took about 50 tries to get this picture. In 49 of them bulldog looks exactly the same. The same can’t be said about the other two.

 

I don’t get a lot of say in our Xmas card design.

 

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Poodle on the end is pissed about paws in this cold wet s**t and stubby plump Neanderdog not donning a Jester’s ascot. ?

[djrey]

Dogs can be trained. Generally when I think of people who can be trained I find them sheepish and lacking capacity to come up with their own thoughts, actions and conclusions. While cats can also be trained (to a lesser degree) they have a much larger capacity for innate knowledge. Take a house cat and throw it outdoors it will continue to live for years, reproduce etc. Throw a dog outside and he will be dead in 5 days. Cats are among the most wild of normal house pets where dogs have been heavily domesticated. Comparing a house dog to a wolf or coyote is comparing humans to apps. Given this I would have to say the car is smarter, but I understand how someone would argue a capacity to learn would be the smarter creature. Coming from someone who has owned and love both cats and dogs my entire life. Different animals for different jobs. 

Never met a brown bear so I cannot judge. But for "innate knowledge" they would surely trump. So idk 

[cigcars]

[Chas.Alpha]

[wine_junkie]

I vote dogs but love cats for their independence.  I don’t like to be bugged that often.  Maybe I’m just a heartless bastard...

[The Squiggler]

They're both idiots.  I've never heard a single clever word exit the mouth of dog or cat (of course, my cat often looks at me like she's thinking the same thing, so maybe I'm missing something)