El Presidente Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 EAR = Email Assistance Required. Would you mind putting something along this line to members in a poll? I am astounded how some members can differentiate between fresh bread flavours and sourdough? are they the same? Not only are their biscuits but there are graham crackers, anzac, cookies, brownies. Recently i saw "bakery" in a review and so that threw a blanket on the whole thing "bakery pectrum" Just being lazy or is it a fair description? I want to taste "bakery". I want to taste "brioche". What do you recommend? So two questions for members. 1. Simple poll question. 2 He wants to taste "bakery" in a cigar. He wants to taste "brioche" What do you recommend? 1
Low Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 I can't taste it all of the time, but when I do they tend to be in the top percent of that cigar. Many PSD4s are full of rich spice, chocolate, some coffee, and light pepper. But the top end of those have that sourdough element. Same thing with the Mag 46, my personal favorite regular production corona gorda. You're gonna get the quintessential Upmann flavors throughout, but that top 10% of them also have a wonderful over baked croissant flavor. There's also times you don't get that flavor at all, but it can connect to something your mind. The top Epicure Especials have a milk and honey thing going on, so my mind also includes a nice biscuit or graham cracker. I don't think there's any of those "bakery" flavors in that particular cigar, but it sure does make me think of them.
Chibearsv Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 Bakery for me: Upmann Mag 50 has a toasted bread flavor Fonseca is vanilla cake Brioche - nothing yet for me
Glass Half Full Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 Why not just buy a brioche -- or maybe enjoy one while smoking a cigar? Only half kidding on that. I'll sometimes enjoy nuts or specific beer or other drink flavors to enhance what I'm already getting from a nice cigar. 2
karp Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 Absolutely, both Upmann and Trinidad are good for a sweet bakery taste. Montes sometimes and Partagas sometimes have a bread flavour but it’s less sweet generally. Maybe more nutty... Heck, I even get bakery from Bolivars or SCdH on occasion.
Bijan Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 For me most often the associated spices. Cinnamon, nutmeg, general baking spices. Trinidad has whatever spices are in old fashioned donuts. This one is easier to tell because Trinidad tend to be sweet as well. While the others below are most often not that sweet. Upmann shortbread type flavour, though often savoury, so again hard to tell, Sir Winston more well rounded and sweet. Partagas sourdough, again most often savoury. Hoyo du depute more general baking spice, but most often without a sweet flavour. Monte, especially 2, cinnamon and/or nutmeg. Again to be more obviously baked good flavoured the cigars should be sweet (which is somewhat rare) or buttery (which is even more rare). 2
Cigar Surgeon Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 General bread, yeast, flaked pastry, graham cracker, cookie, cookie dough, sourdough, shortbread 1
Popular Post 99call Posted May 12, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 12, 2023 Partagas ..... A sour savoury yeasty toastiness. = Sourdough Por Larranaga....... A nutty dark molasses like breadiness = Ryebread/Pumpernickle QDO ...........A sweet rich buttery breadiness = Brioche/Panetonne SCDLH........ An sweet eggy bready richness, with a dark manuka honey or Maple syrup = Pancakes Upmann ..........A sweet buttery, biscuity richness. = Shortbread Trinidad......... A greasy sweet/savoury dirty richness = Donut, fresh pretzel Hoyo ....... A vanilla, baking spices, dried fruit, bready sweetness =. Scones, spiced buns, hot cross buns 6
Popular Post BrightonCorgi Posted May 12, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 12, 2023 This dude is looking for cigars that taste like bakery and I am just trying to find boxes of anything. Talk about how the other half lives. 5
MrBirdman Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 I definitely get “bakery” flavors, but where I draw the line is when reviewers start claiming they can identify the strain of yeast it’s using. Sometimes I read Halfwheel reviews, which are generally well written, and count two dozen-plus flavor notes. Really?
karp Posted May 13, 2023 Posted May 13, 2023 11 hours ago, 99call said: Partagas ..... A sour savoury yeasty toastiness. = Sourdough Por Larranaga....... A nutty dark molasses like breadiness = Ryebread/Pumpernickle QDO ...........A sweet rich buttery breadiness = Brioche/Panetonne SCDLH........ An sweet eggy bready richness, with a dark manuka honey or Maple syrup = Pancakes Upmann ..........A sweet buttery, biscuity richness. = Shortbread Trinidad......... A greasy sweet/savoury dirty richness = Donut, fresh pretzel Hoyo ....... A vanilla, baking spices, dried fruit, bready sweetness =. Scones, spiced buns, hot cross buns Right on - this is a great summary. Bakery, like cigars, encompasses many flavours!
Ford2112 Posted May 13, 2023 Posted May 13, 2023 My friend said she tastes "tobacco" . She may be right 🤣 1 2
westg Posted May 13, 2023 Posted May 13, 2023 21 hours ago, 99call said: Partagas ..... A sour savoury yeasty toastiness. = Sourdough Por Larranaga....... A nutty dark molasses like breadiness = Ryebread/Pumpernickle QDO ...........A sweet rich buttery breadiness = Brioche/Panetonne SCDLH........ An sweet eggy bready richness, with a dark manuka honey or Maple syrup = Pancakes Upmann ..........A sweet buttery, biscuity richness. = Shortbread Trinidad......... A greasy sweet/savoury dirty richness = Donut, fresh pretzel Hoyo ....... A vanilla, baking spices, dried fruit, bready sweetness =. Scones, spiced buns, hot cross buns Not bad !
Hammer Smokin' Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 On 5/12/2023 at 11:14 PM, Ford2112 said: My friend said she tastes "tobacco" . She may be right 🤣 She's 100% correct. The rest is in our heads (and our ability to write). I say to my wife, here, smell this, do you notice the notes of apple or orange? Her: No! It smells like weed! Same thing with our descriptions of cigar tasting. 1
SCgarman Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 According to Rob Ayala: Ramon Allones Superiores "tastes a hell of a lot like Christmas cake". I'll never forget that description!😆 BTW, who here has ever had a piece of "Christmas cake"? And what the hell does it taste like? Other than RA Superiores (which I have never experienced)
Boxer31 Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 Bread flavor- D4, P2 cookie/biscuit/doughnut- medio siglo, N1 maduro, RAG
99call Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 On 5/14/2023 at 8:42 PM, SCgarman said: And what the hell does it taste like? get yourself some good PX sherry, it's basically Christmas cake in a glass. If you are ever going to make a Christmas cake, make one to a West Indian recipe........they are easily the best I've ever tried
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