For the steamy coffee cup...... cigar resters?

[99call]

For some years now i've wanted to ask this question.  so why not now

Like many CC smokers we are plagued with underfilled, overfiled, plugged, canoeing cigars etc etc.   (to a much lesser degree than years gone by)

My question is this.  for the period of time it takes for a cigar enthusiast to take a picture of their prized cigar sat atop their favourite cup of coffee.............is that enough time for steam one side of your cigar and create an uneven burn?

Personally.... burn problems drive my crazy, and on the few occasions is actually happens to me,  I would never do anything to actively increase my chances of ruining a smoke.

Thoughts?

[Mickey D]

I have often wondered the same when seeing posted pics of cigars propped upon a steaming drink. I can’t imagine it being good for the cigar.

[99call]

1 minute ago, Mickey D said:

I have often wondered the same when seeing posted pics of cigars propped upon a steaming drink. I can’t imagine it being good for the cigar.

Yup,   say with something like the 'under the tap technique' it's amazing that even for a fraction of a second of flowing water, you can see wrappers cockle/wrinkle (on vintage cigars).   I can't imagine taking so much care over the RH and condition of my cigar.........then at the very last second,  I place one side of my cigar over a boiling hot bath of water.

I like to think of myself as being fairly laid back as to "the right way" to do anything.    But I have to say I find this trend to be pretty strange

[mprach024]

Fair question.  I can only tell you that I never rest my cigar on my coffee cup, for a picture or otherwise and I experience burn problems like everyone else....but, Canoeing though, I don’t ever get that, in fact it’s been 10 plus years since I’ve seen that.  I had a box of Sancho Panzas that every one of them Canoed, which is why I don’t say canoeing, I say a Panza burn.  Haven’t seen that particular burn issue since then on any Marca.

Now that I’ve said that, I’m betting whatever I’m going to smoke tonight will now canoe....and it will be all your fault.

[99call]

1 minute ago, mprach024 said:

Fair question.  I can only tell you that I never rest my cigar on my coffee cup, for a picture or otherwise and I experience burn problems like everyone else....but, Canoeing though, I don’t ever get that, in fact it’s been 10 plus years since I’ve seen that.  I had a box of Sancho Panzas that every one of them Canoed, which is why I don’t say canoeing, I say a Panza burn.  Haven’t seen that particular burn issue since then on any Marca.

Now that I’ve said that, I’m betting whatever I’m going to smoke tonight will now canoe....and it will be all your fault.

It definitely wasn't a thread designed to point fingers, or suggest people are purposefully negatively affecting their cigars......it was more to say......so much it communicated about people being incredibly specific about 60% 65% 69% rh etc etc...........and to be sitting your cigars over a sauna just before you smoke it.......kind of defeats all the money and hard work.     In a way i'm hoping for someone to tell me "no it's not a problem.....and here's why..."

[TheCigarslayer]

45 minutes ago, 99call said:

It definitely wasn't a thread designed to point fingers, or suggest people are purposefully negatively affecting their cigars......it was more to say......so much it communicated about people being incredibly specific about 60% 65% 69% rh etc etc...........and to be sitting your cigars over a sauna just before you smoke it.......kind of defeats all the money and hard work.     In a way i'm hoping for someone to tell me "no it's not a problem.....and here's why..."

I've found environmental factors can really mess around with what would have been an enjoyable cigar. Even a passing rain shower in theory added to big time burn issues just due to the moisture in the air. While I'm guilty of sometimes posing my cigars for a nice pic, I'd never lay it over top a steaming beverage. For me, it'd be more the worry of the accidental swimming hazard. I take great care/pride in picking out the perfect smoke for the moment, so I wouldn't want to cut it short over some digi-likes. 

[CaptainQuintero]

  My mugs aren't fancy enough to be shown in a classy looking shot

  I don't have anywhere near enough fine motor control to not have my cigar ending up swimming in a half full 20+year old Homer Simpson mug, nor end up setting fire to myself/my home/passing strangers trying to fish the cigar back out

[La_Tigre]

But Instagram!!!

[mprach024]

3 hours ago, 99call said:

It definitely wasn't a thread designed to point fingers, or suggest people are purposefully negatively affecting their cigars......it was more to say......so much it communicated about people being incredibly specific about 60% 65% 69% rh etc etc...........and to be sitting your cigars over a sauna just before you smoke it.......kind of defeats all the money and hard work.     In a way i'm hoping for someone to tell me "no it's not a problem.....and here's why..."

It’s most definitely a problem....because....science 

[Tstew75]

Nawwww...won't make a difference, all in fun

[Paso]

12 hours ago, 99call said:

For some years now i've wanted to ask this question.  so why not now

Like many CC smokers we are plagued with underfilled, overfiled, plugged, canoeing cigars etc etc.   (to a much lesser degree than years gone by)

My question is this.  for the period of time it takes for a cigar enthusiast to take a picture of their prized cigar sat atop their favourite cup of coffee.............is that enough time for steam one side of your cigar and create an uneven burn?

Personally.... burn problems drive my crazy, and on the few occasions is actually happens to me,  I would never do anything to actively increase my chances of ruining a smoke.

Thoughts?

I have nubbed this cigar without any burn or any other issues, but i kept it above the cup not more than10 seconds and coffee was lukewarm. I didn't feel  to sacrifice my smoke for a nice photo.

[djrey]

Often when I post photos on here its with an espresso with the cigar resting beside or on top. Photo takes 5-10 seconds tops and I have never experienced an issue. Thinking back to the water dunk test nobody seemed to experience issues with burn. I realize the dunk was a homogenous soaking but I think it goes to show that humidity levels on the wrapper have little effect on overall burn quality. The internal combustion heat likely displaces this moisture before the burn line even arrives. 

[Ginseng]

I rarely do this so I can't say for sure. It stands to reason that it could induce at least a temporary effect. Good insurance might be to rest it as close to the head end as possible to allow for maximum time for the burn line to reach the affected area.

[Edicion]

I almost always have a coffee with my cigars. I absolutely need to have a photo with the cigar on top of the cup for my IG or next to it. 

The safest bet is an iced coffee or why not an Espressotini? 

But compared to when I use my cigar stand, next to the cup, instead of on the top, the same issues you mention still remain/happen so my empirical trials scientifically proves, well, not much, so my bet is other factors play in too. 

[Chibearsv]

Wouldn't bringing a cigar out of storage to smoke it in 90 degree weather with 90% humidity be much worse in theory than posing the cigar over a coffee cup for 10 seconds?  And yet I'm sure I'm not the only one that smokes outside in the middle of summer with very few issues.  If posing a cigar over hot coffee for a moment created issues, I'm sure we wouldn't see those photos as often as we do.  I certainly don't intend on being a cigar "bubble boy" looking for only the perfect atmosphere for my cigar's benefit.  

[Çnote]

The amount of water transposed to the cigar will be negligible and much less than the amount the lit cigar pulls from the air. Visible steam is dependent on the deltas of %humidity and temperature between the micro and macro environments, so you cannot even make an estimate based on the picture. I doubt anyone is drinking coffee at full boil where enough water vapor would condense and drip of the cigar, that would be a 'real' issue.

I personally rarely smoke a cigar long enough to bridge a standard coffee cup, much less the soup bowls I use.

This feels like a 'get off my lawn' conversation. 

 

[ha_banos]

Just shove it in your food/drink! Be a man!

[Joeyjojo]

Clumsy bugger as I am, my biggest worry would be dropping the cigar in the drink. 

  

 

 

[jonnyfromiranny]

I say negligible and all in good fun. Just relax, take your pics, and enjoy

[Hammer Smokin']

Anyone smoke a cigar without taking a pic and posting it anywhere?

That would be a minority i do believe 

[PigFish]

Never really gave it too much thought, a rarity for me. Of course one could use an 'environmentally inert' stand!

One seen posing for the weekly contest "Robusto" review that I never wrote!! (POS Sep 06)

Of course knowing that the foot of your cigar can get 1000F, somehow makes me care less about a little high ambient rH on the wrapper.

-Piggy