Smallclub Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 58rg, $51, 50% of the cigar covered with a golden band: rich suckers have now their dedicated cigar. Disgrace. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Hmn that app. the price of a 50-cab of SLR dc's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondog Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 looking forward to trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 scandalous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CanuckSARTech Posted November 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2014 I love all the reverse-elitist attitudes here with this. Such a crock. If they made a super premium long and skinny, you guys would not begrudge those that like the bigger, fatter cigars. Agreed wholeheartedly with you that H S.A. is messed up in it's thinking lately with some of these jawbreaker releases. But as Rob states, simply, they sell. The Asian and Russian markets are expanding more and more because of this. Even perhaps moreso, look at all the non-Cuban releases out of the U.S. in the past few years - nubs, fat sticks, etc., etc., are flooding the market there, for probably 5 or 6 years now. So, H S.A. is simply appearing to be slightly playing "catch up" in that regard. Do we blame Americans in general then, for setting this trend???? No, because that's simply imbecility at it's finest. Some like a variety of cigars. I myself will try some (as I was gifted some), but whether I like them or not, I won't be buying (simply because I'm 90% sure the ring gauge will simply make it uncomfortable to smoke). But I'm not going to ***** and moan and generalize in a negative-view the other smokers that do. Talking down to those that are wanting to try them? Grow up. You want to smoke long and skinnies - fine. Great. Some of us like those, plus piramides, plus Churchills, plus robustos, etc., because of what the different formats can bring to a flavour profile. It's about the individual smoke. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondog Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 well said Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmokealot Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I saw them at the LCDH in Cancun. Even though I love Cohiba that ring gauge is out of my preference so I didn't pull the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shlomo Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I love all the reverse-elitist attitudes here with this. Such a crock. If they made a super premium long and skinny, you guys would not begrudge those that like the bigger, fatter cigars. Agreed wholeheartedly with you that H S.A. is messed up in it's thinking lately with some of these jawbreaker releases. But as Rob states, simply, they sell. The Asian and Russian markets are expanding more and more because of this. Even perhaps moreso, look at all the non-Cuban releases out of the U.S. in the past few years - nubs, fat sticks, etc., etc., are flooding the market there, for probably 5 or 6 years now. So, H S.A. is simply appearing to be slightly playing "catch up" in that regard. Do we blame Americans in general then, for setting this trend???? No, because that's simply imbecility at it's finest. Some like a variety of cigars. I myself will try some (as I was gifted some), but whether I like them or not, I won't be buying (simply because I'm 90% sure the ring gauge will simply make it uncomfortable to smoke). But I'm not going to ***** and moan and generalize in a negative-view the other smokers that do. Talking down to those that are wanting to try them? Grow up. You want to smoke long and skinnies - fine. Great. Some of us like those, plus piramides, plus Churchills, plus robustos, etc., because of what the different formats can bring to a flavour profile. It's about the individual smoke. This thread has been very civilized, as it should be. People are stating their opinions. What got under your skin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallclub Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 , because of what the different formats can bring to a flavour profile. It's about the individual smoke. Really? I have asked this before: what is the benefit of a rg larger than 50? What does it bring to the smoking characterics of the cigar? What does it bring to a blend? I'm curious. Even HSA through its marketing team is unable to put forward a credible argument on this matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mash Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 This thread has been very civilized, as it should be. People are stating their opinions. What got under your skin? It's not just his skin. There are a small group of people on the board who constantly whine about cigars that they don't like or can't afford. It starts off as a rant about HSA, and then goes on to talk about the motives of people who may buy them as posers. Sound familiar? OK. So some people don't like big RG and special releases. We get it. To mention this ad nauseum isn't civilized. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shlomo Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 It's not just his skin. There are a small group of people on the board who constantly whine about cigars that they don't like or can't afford. It starts off as a rant about HSA, and then goes on to talk about the motives of people who may buy them as posers. Sound familiar? OK. So some people don't like big RG and special releases. We get it. To mention this ad nauseum isn't civilized. Mash! Buddy, pal! How have you been?! You haven't been hounding me in months. Feeling alright? LOL Opinions on a newly released cigar on an internet cigar forum!?!? THE HORROR!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallclub Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 There are a small group of people on the board who constantly whine about cigars that they don't like or can't afford. There is also some people who never take part in any discussion, and post only when a thread turns sour or when some members badmouth some others… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maplepie Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 OK. So some people don't like big RG and special releases. We get it. To mention this ad nauseum isn't civilized. Very true. Good to see you interject now and then . You should really post more, K. Wed all enjoy it, Despite ad nauseum pathos argumentation, the logistics (I believe) have rarely been discussed. Ones illustrated by Frank's post below. I too am wondering about the differences of large ring gauges. (price and markets aside). Really? I have asked this before: what is the benefit of a rg larger than 50? What does it bring to the smoking characterics of the cigar? What does it bring to a blend? I'm curious. Even HSA through its marketing team is unable to put forward a credible argument on this matter Sent from the Enigma on Tapatalk for BlackBerry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianbeaver Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Big fat cigars are in style because of photos of pretty half dressed women practically deep throating unlit Ghurkas Tom, your description of this new cigar was terrific. From the blend of the Cohiba and the Monte 520, I can only guess the reviewer you speak of is Ennis, King of the 520's. As for the $51 price tag, about $7-10 less than a 1966, so big deal. *** Edited. Math mistake. Escepcion not in this story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebhead Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Tom, your description of this new cigar was terrific. From the blend of the Cohiba and the Monte 520, I can only guess the reviewer you speak of is Ennis, King of the 520's. Sadly, I wasn't the reviewer of this one. I would like to have been as I like the bigger RG cigars. E (edited to fix spelling faux pas) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Hey Guys , its only a cigar, personally , i believe for that amount of money, is not better to go for a Behike 56 or a box of the Bolivar Super coronas -25- cigars, instead of a cigar that looks shorter than a robusto, with bands that cover more than a quarter and you have to remove after two puffs. But again there are many tastes out there which will dictate one's decision.Finally it is not fair to say that those who were critical of the Supremos, did so because they can not afford them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac77 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Sadly, I wasn't the reviewer of this one. I would like to have been as I like the bigger RG cigars. E (edited to fix spelling faux pas) Write a letter to Santa Enis.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianbeaver Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Sadly, I wasn't the reviewer of this one. I would like to have been as I like the bigger RG cigars. E (edited to fix spelling faux pas) Edit all you want... but we know... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shlomo Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Big fat cigars are in style because of photos of pretty half dressed women practically deep throating unlit Ghurkas Tom, your description of this new cigar was terrific. From the blend of the Cohiba and the Monte 520, I can only guess the reviewer you speak of is Ennis, King of the 520's. As for the $51 price tag, this is the same current price as a L'Escepcion, and about $7-10 less than a 1966, so big deal. Wow, I just got rid of my box of La Escept. for the $20 per I paid for them. Anybody asking for $50 for on eof those is ripping people off and profitng off of other BOTLs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac77 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Edit all you want... but we know... Enis was not in cuba with us Lisa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mash Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 There is also some people who never take part in any discussion, and post only when a thread turns sour or when some members badmouth some others Yeah, I'd love get into pedantic discussions with you about the historical origin of the wrapper leaf on a 1994 Diplomatic #1. You're usually so open minded and respectful of others. It's only having a life that gets in my way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLC Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 If they were out last week I would have bought a box smoked some and made up my own mind about them. I do have a couple of singles but have not tried one yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post El Presidente Posted November 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2014 Settle pettles I see some parallels in the debate to my own wine experience. When I made my first decent coin in the mid to late 80's (I mean a pay packet not a mozza) I threw myself into the world of wine which was (and remains) a passion. I sought out the best I could (and couldn't) afford. $90 Bottles, $1000 cases, I just wanted to try the very best I could. Chasing the very best turned out to be a sweet and sour experience. I found out just because something is expensive and rated didn't mean I enjoyed it. That Journey went on for a decade. I am a slow learner. By the late 90's (and to this day) I focused on $15-25 gems. I know what I like, I don't get involved in the hype. I will still spring on the rare occasion $100+ on a great bottle of Aussie/French/Italian Red as a treat. I know what I love and a little indulgence is not a bad thing. Luxury consumables is not math. A $100 bottle of wine is not 4 times better than a $25 bottle. A $50 Cigar not 5 times better than a $10 one. My father still enjoys his 4 litre cask of dry red and I can assure you the utility he obtains from that glass is the same I receive from a bottle of Amarone. utility is a beautiful thing. Luxury consumables be they wine or cigars are but perceived benchmarks. One may embrace those benchmarks wholly (I have mates who only drink $80+ wine and vintage cigars), one may touch those benchmarks occasionally (myself) or one may completely ignore them altogether. To dictate there is a right or wrong in any approach is in my mind hubris at best. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondog Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Yeah, I'd love get into pedantic discussions with you about the historical origin of the wrapper leaf on a 1994 Diplomatic #1. You're usually so open minded and respectful of others. It's only having a life that gets in my way. Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rob Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I don't care that there are more 50+ RG cigars. I only care that as every year goes by, that there are less smaller RG cigars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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