ChanceSchmerr Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 2-3 for me...depends on the reviews from others on whether I give the cigar a 3rd shot. Most of the current RyJ line has been eliminated from my rotation due to this, as well as many VR's (though the VR's get three, as they always show promise...just never deliver) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJP Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 1 or 2 boxes. If I liked I continued to buy, if so so I gave another chance and if it didn't agree with me I will only revisit in singles just out of curiosity a couple of times until I say never again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laficion Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I have no preconceived notions of 1 or 2 or even 3 tries. If a cigar Is not to my taste, I dich It. This does not tell me to dich the box however nor do I stay away from them for years. The next cigar or the next box may be GREAT.( For me ,at least ).After smoking for soooo many years,I've learned one thing and that Is ,with Cuba, never say never. Guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinThyme Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 As another brother stated, too many cigars and not enough time. Ill go with the baseball rule, three strikes and you are out. Smoke one after a month of acclimation, then again in 6 months and again in a year. If its still unpalatable to me in a year Ill usually try ti find someone who likes them and offer up a trade or just flat out give them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shlomo Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I have no preconseved notions of 1 or 2 or even 3 tries. If a cigar Is not to my tast, I dich It. This does not tell me to dich the box however nor do I stay away from them for years. The next cigar or the next box may be GREAT.( For me ,at least ).After smoking for soooo many years,I've learned one thing and that Is ,with Cuba, never say never. Guy This, absolutely. I will tend to stay away from one's I have not liked in the past, but will absolutely give all of them extra chances down the road. The seed, tobacco, blend or my palate all may have changed, so I will never say never. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianbeaver Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I picked 3 but if Matthew and I don't like a particular cigar we ditch it. There is probably a reason, like too young or needs to be dry boxed. But some do not make it because we do not like them, so we trade them with someone who does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anacostiakat Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I may be atypical in the way that I smoke. Upon receipt of a box I normally let them sit 30 - 60 days before trying. However, sometimes I do break this rule. Especially if the aroma and sight is tantalizing! I will try one or two (maybe even three) over a couple of weeks once I decide to delve into them. If these are craptacular then I just ignor them for an indeterminate time. Could be as little as months to as much as years. Determined by each pull from the box obviously. Conversely, if I find them approachable (regardless of date) I may smoke them on a regular basis and may go right through the box. I rarely smoke the same cigars daily for any stretch of time as I likes my variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjohn7 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 On 10/9/2014 at 10:22 AM, kwsaw63 said: 2 strikes and you're out. Too many cigars and not enough money and time. X2. Not enough time, and if the stick can't impress me in two tastings, then a third opportunity is not warranted. On a similar note, do you guys find that a sampler is enough for you to formulate your opinion of a marca or vitola? I've been trying to decide if samplers or box splits (taking roughly five of the box) would be a more effective way to try a majority of the sticks available. Obviously, samplers would allow me to taste a larger variety in a shorter amount of time, but like Rob said, I don't want to discount certain sticks simply because the one in my sampler was off. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikek Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Well I'm kind of A five for five person,I also have had smokes that were no bueno! three or four years latter they are great! Cuban tobacco being really unaged I think it depends where in it's life cycle you smoke it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigFish Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I have no preconceived notions of 1 or 2 or even 3 tries. If a cigar Is not to my taste, I dich It. This does not tell me to dich the box however nor do I stay away from them for years. The next cigar or the next box may be GREAT.( For me ,at least ).After smoking for soooo many years,I've learned one thing and that Is ,with Cuba, never say never. Guy I believe that this is actually an extremely complex question. I would love to hear some of Bob's (Shrink) analysis on the subject. Guy's answer is frankly the best I have seen posted (in reference to my opinion) and was thinking along these lines before reading through all the posts. I would add that it depends on the cigar, how much it costs and your experience and wisdom regarding cigars. Prejudging cigars, a prejudice for or against cigars has kept me from smoking a lot of ELs/REs… Ultimately I have missed out on some fine cigars, undoubtedly, but I have saved an enormous amount of time and money, investing them into cigars that my experience has told me are better… If the worlds 'best' cigar was in that bunch, I cheated myself of the chance. That is the risk I take when I prejudice myself against anything. So this approach is really a risk reward question. 'Tying' cigars is also not really the correct way to formulate the question. MHO… I will continue to try cigars that have not liked if they are given to me, and there is no limit. But I will stop buying them at different rates depending on the price and the valuation of the ones that I have smoked. I bought a really bad box of LGC Sabrosos once. I never touched the cigars again… Same with the RG TPC… I smoked a couple of the BigHillbilly's… I have no need to chase that with more dough… They are mediocre at best (MHO) and unless someone is going to give them to me, I am never going to have another! I don't view smoking as a means to give a cigar a chance. Smoking a cigar is a means by which the cigar proves its worth… The cigar is supposed to 'court' me, not the other way around! Did you take note of that Tabacuba??? Giving a cigar a chance is what people do who are trying to like something. This is a novice motivation (MHO). I am a seasoned smoker and not trying to like anything. My goal is to get what I like… every time I light up. I am therefore happy smoking one cigar if it satisfies me. It is not important to me to say that I like a certain cigar. Why would it be? To fit in? I don't know why one should feel embarrassed to say he does not like the looks of the latest "hot" model of anything. Life is about tastes and some times those tastes are formed by prejudices. We are taught 'discrimination' is bad… yet to be discriminating when it comes to certain tastes, is a complement…! Why be forced to like what you don't like… Accept it for what it is, regardless of those who would cast a judgement upon you and be happy with your own tastes. Cheers! -Piggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shlomo Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I believe that this is actually an extremely complex question. I would love to hear some of Bob's (Shrink) analysis on the subject. Guy's answer is frankly the best I have seen posted (in reference to my opinion) and was thinking along these lines before reading through all the posts. I would add that it depends on the cigar, how much it costs and your experience and wisdom regarding cigars. Prejudging cigars, a prejudice for or against cigars has kept me from smoking a lot of ELs/REs… Ultimately I have missed out on some fine cigars, undoubtedly, but I have saved an enormous amount of time and money, investing them into cigars that my experience has told me are better… If the worlds 'best' cigar was in that bunch, I cheated myself of the chance. That is the risk I take when I prejudice myself against anything. So this approach is really a risk reward question. 'Tying' cigars is also not really the correct way to formulate the question. MHO… I will continue to try cigars that have not liked if they are given to me, and there is no limit. But I will stop buying them at different rates depending on the price and the valuation of the ones that I have smoked. I bought a really bad box of LGC Sabrosos once. I never touched the cigars again… Same with the RG TPC… I smoked a couple of the BigHillbilly's… I have no need to chase that with more dough… They are mediocre at best (MHO) and unless someone is going to give them to me, I am never going to have another! I don't view smoking as a means to give a cigar a chance. Smoking a cigar is a means by which the cigar proves its worth… The cigar is supposed to 'court' me, not the other way around! Did you take note of that Tabacuba??? Giving a cigar a chance is what people do who are trying to like something. This is a novice motivation (MHO). I am a seasoned smoker and not trying to like anything. My goal is to get what I like… every time I light up. I am therefore happy smoking one cigar if it satisfies me. It is not important to me to say that I like a certain cigar. Why would it be? To fit in? I don't know why one should feel embarrassed to say he does not like the looks of the latest "hot" model of anything. Life is about tastes and some times those tastes are formed by prejudices. We are taught 'discrimination' is bad… yet to be discriminating when it comes to certain tastes, is a complement…! Why be forced to like what you don't like… Accept it for what it is, regardless of those who would cast a judgement upon you and be happy with your own tastes. Cheers! -Piggy So essentially what you're trying to say in relation to Guy's post is.... "x2" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 So essentially what you're trying to say in relation to Guy's post is.... "x2" Ahah! I mostly agree with Guy and Ray. Choosing implies rejecting. In the end, I only wish to enjoy the experience, knowing that tastes are but subjective. Cheers to all who will try and call it as it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cigaraholic Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I love cuban tobacco too much to give up on a cigar. Luckily for me I've smoked very few dog rockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt45 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 On a similar note, do you guys find that a sampler is enough for you to formulate your opinion of a marca When acquiring singles (meaning less than a box), I've always tried to buy at least three of each cigar. I understand that a pre-packaged sampler may only contain one of each of a particular cigar, but we can always put together our own "samplers" If we buy three (or more) each of a number of cigars, it can allow for smoking over enough time to try and form an opinion. As for RA's original question, I guess I no longer feel the need to bang my head against a wall when it comes to what should be a simple joy. Personal examples: a dozen plus Partagas D4 (circa "05) - every one insipid - I feel no need to revisit. Full box of RASS (again '05) marginally better that the PSD4s - no need to revisit. A dozen or so SLR DC (again circa "05) - same as the others (i smoked one of my last remaining last week - someone owes me a an hour and a half or so...). Maybe it was a bad year. Or maybe I just got duds. Or maybe I don't know how to properly store cigars. Or maybe Uranus was in retrograde. No more excuses for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigFish Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 So essentially what you're trying to say in relation to Guy's post is.... "x2" I am a man of few words… -the Pig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunod Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Well.well well. The 5-5-5. Not enough time or money for that. I will give a cigar 2 shots, unless it is complete crap like the Monte Double Edmundo. Now, if I have a friend that likes one that has bombed for me, I will try one from his box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1LegLance Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Between the changes in blends and changes in my taste I figure every 2-3 yrs I should check in on something that friends are liking. Then again I enjoy punishing myself by spending money on sticks I don't know I love....ya sucker here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikB Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 It took me 17 years and a visit to El Laguito, but no more Cohibas for me. I know people love them and I did have some great ones, but on the whole they're just not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbandz Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 have never given up on a vitola,because they all seem to come back around somehow.A gift,trade,or good offer. Currently I have no stock of: St Luis Robaina Trinidad this is as close to giving up on a vitola as I can get............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maplepie Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 wonder who voted 6 or more dog rockets..... i also would love to see a 'Cigars smoked per week' vs 'Number of times before you give up' chart. I wonder if you could find causation there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RijkdeGooier Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 It also depends on the cycle of the vitola. For example RYJ was not soo good mid 2003-2007 but the tubos I have from just sfter that date are niw smoking fantastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smalls Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I had to vote 6 or more. I haven't really liked any Bolivars that I have tried, but I am trying to give it one more chance with some BBF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maplepie Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I had to vote 6 or more. I haven't really liked any Bolivars that I have tried, but I am trying to give it one more chance with some BBF. how'd you like the Corona Gigantes? doesn't have that 'Bolivar Twang' to me. Probably my favourite churchill ROTT. How about the much appraised [by me] Bolivar No. 2? Very close flavours to the Corona Extra which is the reason why i'ven't stocked up on the CEs myself. Oh and don't forget the great RC which are probably one of the most consistent cigars coming out of Cuba! Tried the regionals? bound to be one near you! Personally, Bolivar is a very big favourite of mine due to the consistency and availibility. The selection is matched nearly by non due to the influx of regionals. Some would find that to be a damnation - me, a blessing. I love the occasional 07 and 08 TEB-box coded regionals are absolutely gorgeous and quite the rare treat but racking up a pretty penny. But ones that are much easier to get are the modern Bolivar Presidentes which are down right nubbable ROTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optic101 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 how'd you like the Corona Gigantes? doesn't have that 'Bolivar Twang' to me. Probably my favourite churchill ROTT. How about the much appraised [by me] Bolivar No. 2? Very close flavours to the Corona Extra which is the reason why i'ven't stocked up on the CEs myself. Oh and don't forget the great RC which are probably one of the most consistent cigars coming out of Cuba! Tried the regionals? bound to be one near you! Personally, Bolivar is a very big favourite of mine due to the consistency and availibility. The selection is matched nearly by non due to the influx of regionals. Some would find that to be a damnation - me, a blessing. I love the occasional 07 and 08 TEB-box coded regionals are absolutely gorgeous and quite the rare treat but racking up a pretty penny. But ones that are much easier to get are the modern Bolivar Presidentes which are down right nubbable ROTT. Looking forward to try the CG since awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maplepie Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Looking forward to try the CG since awhile. excited for you!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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