El Presidente Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 Trinidad has seen a significant fleshing out of its lineup over the past few years and that has been great to see. Quai D'Orsay same and to great success. If you were given the job to revitalise one of the brands outside the top 6, 1. which would it be 2. what 2 -3 cigars would you launch within that brand to make it a surefire success? Caveat you are the Cuban director of HSA making this decision. They fail commericaly and you disappear. Think with your head and not necessarily your heart 1
dobbs Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 head and heart, por larranaga! can't be more "out" than qdo was, and plenty of room for expansion of the marca. would hope they'd leave the bands alone though. regarding question 2, i'd add a duke and petit robusto, both fairly popular here (and with me), as well as current-trend-size (sorta), and there is little like them in the catalog. some may cry "picadores!" but that's hardly a larranaga to me. -dobbs 1
westg Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 Cohiba Partagas Monte Hoyo Upmann are the top 5.? R&J ?
Deano Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 Pot Larranaga is a worthy candidate. I will go with Ramon Allones. Some very interesting options including RAC and Petite Coronas that should generate great interest if they are re-invented. An 8-9-8 production closer to the legacy 8-9-8s would be welcome also. (Does it show that I’m not a big fan of the German RE release?).
dobbs Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, dobbs said: regarding question 2, i'd add a duke and petit robusto, both fairly popular here (and with me), as well as current-trend-size (sorta), and there is little like them in the catalog. by the way, i'd actually really like a larranaga churchill or 898, but not sure they would sell as well. that said, the encantos seems to be well loved (now), and the punch 898's are flying off the shelves, so maybe times have changed. -dobbs
... Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 Sancho Panza petit robusto and sublimes could be interesting
Puro_Lover83 Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 44 minutes ago, dobbs said: head and heart, por larranaga! can't be more "out" than qdo was, and plenty of room for expansion of the marca. would hope they'd leave the bands alone though. regarding question 2, i'd add a duke and petit robusto, both fairly popular here (and with me), as well as current-trend-size (sorta), and there is little like them in the catalog. some may cry "picadores!" but that's hardly a larranaga to me. -dobbs Completely agree on adding a Duke and Petit Robusto...those vitolas are very much en vogue these days
wineguy Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 Juan Lopez: #2( not the current- a Pyramid), a Double Corona or Churchill and a Lancero. 2
Popular Post SenorPerfecto Posted December 17, 2019 Popular Post Posted December 17, 2019 Diplo.I’d kill the No. 2 and replace it with 5 different lengths of 55RG cigars, from 4” to 9”. All with secondary bands akin to the Upmann Magnums, but for length rather than girth.They’d be called “Immunity.” 1 7 1
Wookie Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 I'd like to see a toro version of PL and Ramon Allones.
El Presidente Posted December 17, 2019 Author Posted December 17, 2019 44 minutes ago, westg said: Cohiba Partagas Monte Hoyo Upmann are the top 5.? R&J ? You are right! I meant' outside of the top 6
El Presidente Posted December 17, 2019 Author Posted December 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, Jeanff said: Sancho Panza petit robusto and sublimes could be interesting I would love it. Tough sell however.
Astar20 Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 I'd say a Churchill, Lonsdale or lanceros of SLR or RA.
El Presidente Posted December 17, 2019 Author Posted December 17, 2019 57 minutes ago, dobbs said: head and heart, por larranaga! can't be more "out" than qdo was, and plenty of room for expansion of the marca. would hope they'd leave the bands alone though. regarding question 2, i'd add a duke and petit robusto, both fairly popular here (and with me), as well as current-trend-size (sorta), and there is little like them in the catalog. some may cry "picadores!" but that's hardly a larranaga to me. -dobbs I would be little nervous on the Petit Robusto. The Picadores hasn't been raging success. What packaging the Duke?
tigger Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 LGC, Maybe with a Double Robusto and a Petit Edmundo. Neither of which I would smoke. ?
El Presidente Posted December 17, 2019 Author Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Astar20 said: I'd say a Churchill, Lonsdale or lanceros of SLR or RA. Brave man. SLR Churchill and lonsdale both failed to win the market before. How would you do it differently?
Astar20 Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, El Presidente said: Brave man. SLR Churchill and lonsdale both failed to win the market before. How would you do it differently? With the way the punch 898, ERDM tainos I think start out as EL or RE and then make them a standard productions IE topes
The Squiggler Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, El Presidente said: I would be little nervous on the Petit Robusto. The Picadores hasn't been raging success. Seems like a lonsdale or a proper lancero would be more up the alley of PL fans. They do their thin cigars so well it's hard for me to imagine certain fatter vitolas succeeding 1
dobbs Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, El Presidente said: I would be little nervous on the Petit Robusto. The Picadores hasn't been raging success. What packaging the Duke? good point, i'm not totaly sold on the petit robusto either. my heart says d#6, but my head knows it would be expensive and probably not sell. how are the partagas sd6 doing globally i wonder? one of my favorite cigars... duke packaging? 10's in sbn for sure, 25's in sliding-lid box or sbn, and fancy different bands for these only. definitely not picadores bands though. kinda distinguish them from the "standard production" to give an air of exclusivity (real or not). maybe tubos too. -dobbs
El Presidente Posted December 17, 2019 Author Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, dobbs said: how are the partagas sd6 doing globally i wonder? Excellent cigar. Abject fail commercially. Many reasons. 1
westg Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 Now this is hard I would love Ramon Allones to what QDS has in 54"s
HDGSN Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 PUNCH Robusto Extra (10- and 25-count dress boxes) 109 (10-count varnished clasp boxes and 25-count SLB) Churchill (Tubos with commemorative 2nd band) 1
Sir Diggamus Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 Vegas Robaina has a flavor profile I think would have wide appeal in a new formats. I would produce a Half-Corona size in similar packaging options as the H. Upmann Half-Corona. The second cigar would be a Double Robusto offered in boxes of 10 and 25. The third would be a Corona Gorda offered in boxes of 10 and 25. 3
Popular Post Habana Mike Posted December 17, 2019 Popular Post Posted December 17, 2019 ERDM needs a reboot. Bring back the Gran Coronas and Tainos. Add a Gorditos. 5
tdlfoto Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 San Cristobal On the wings of the current RE and the reliability of the few vitolas it still produces, play up the history behind the name and launch some product...a corona, a DC, and something(s) with double/triple bands and ego appeasing / money making ring gauge... the La Habana 60! 1
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