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Are lcdh banded cigars of better/higher quality than reg prod cigars? hence the higher price point? do they use aged tobacco?

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Aged tobacco is used for all cigars!

Average leaf extract by types
Since 2006, Habanos has set minimum exposure aging times for different leaves for their cigars:

Filling..........Ligero - 3 years old

Filling..........Seco - 2 years old

Filling..........Volado - 1 year old

Binding........ - 1 year old

Wrapper.....minimum - 1 year old

Wrapper.....Limited Editions - 2 years old

Maduro wrapper.....for Maduro cigars (Cohiba, Partagas)- 5 years old

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2 hours ago, jcorona said:

Are lcdh banded cigars of better/higher quality than reg prod cigars? hence the higher price point? do they use aged tobacco?

Of course they are better and more expensive.  Do you think they would put a second band on just any regular cigar? 

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Seriously though, I find some to be better than regular production, some to be equal, and some to be worse.  In a sense they are just regular production cigars, made in limited quantities.

They may use a unique blend, and you may like it or not.  They may use a very similar blend to other cigars in the marca, but the change in size or ring gauge will alter the flavor into something you like or dislike.  So just like regular production cigars, it all comes down to personal taste.

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5 hours ago, jcorona said:

Are lcdh banded cigars of better/higher quality than reg prod cigars? hence the higher price point? do they use aged tobacco?

Higher price point? Ramon Allones Superiores are one of, it not the cheapest Corona Gorda's available at $5.60 a stick. I would smoke one of them over one of the $30 a stick Sig VI's that were up the other day, without even thinking about it. 

Upmann Noelles (a corona) are only $122, including the Jar!! Sub $5 a stick, plus a very nice jar. 

Hoyo Elegantes are $7 a stick, for a double figurado. 

The MOST expensive LCDH exclusive is the newish, La Trova at $12.50 a stick, which I would argue is still a tremendous value for what you get. 

I can't say weather they are better/worse than their Reg production cohorts, but I do enjoy the Noelles, Superiores and La Trova's a lot. They are also GREAT values, but I think HSA has cottoned on and started raising the release price for the more rececnt inclusion like the La Trova and Hoyo Escogidos. 

I copied the section on LCDH exclusives from https://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/cigar/releases#LCDH_Exclusive_Releases 

It doesn't mention any special treatment of the tobacco, and I have not heard anything to dispute what it says. It does mention that these cigars have been produced in "Limited Numbers" since 2011 which I can back up with personal experience. Other than Superiores(which always seem to be available) I've noticed that the others seem to come in runs. One month you'll visit 10 LCDH's and not see a single jar or box of La Trova, then 4 months later every shop you visit has 10 or 12 of one and a half dozen of the other. Its a total crap shoot. 

logo La Casa del Habanos Exclusives

La Casa del Habano is an internationally registered trademark, property of the Corporation Habano S.A.; to development an International Chain of Franchises.

La Casa del Habano are models for new or rebuilt stores around the world, to a standard set by Habanos S.A., while still maintaining the capacity to adapt itself to the characteristics and culture of the country in which it functions.

The first international La Casa Del Habano began operating in Cancun, Mexico in 1990.

Initially the releases were standard productions cigars produced in unlimited numbers.

Since 2011 a new policy of releasing special La Casa Del Habano Exclusives ( La Casa Del Habano Exclusivo ) in limited numbers was established.

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Full list of La Casa del Habano Exclusive cigars .

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Yet to find any of the fore mentioned cigars at that price. Those prices line up with yul prices in Cuba. You either live in Cuba or visit a lot! Lol

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I love the LCDH blends but those are for sure the ones you find at double the price in cube vs other reg production that you can get at close to the same price as  in cuba if you watch out for good deals. 

Maybe the cost through the distributors is higher on the LCDH than the reg productions for resellers but they are always good none the less.

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3 hours ago, Corylax18 said:

Higher price point? Ramon Allones Superiores are one of, it not the cheapest Corona Gorda's available at $5.60 a stick

I will admit that may be the best deal in Cuba. Shockingly low. 

8 hours ago, jcorona said:

Are lcdh banded cigars of better/higher quality than reg prod cigars? hence the higher price point? do they use aged tobacco?

Not officially, but I think HSA has done a good job with their quality in general and are using top tier tobacco in them.

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46 minutes ago, BarryVT said:

Yet to find any of the fore mentioned cigars at that price. Those prices line up with yul prices in Cuba. You either live in Cuba or visit a lot! Lol

Yes, all prices on the island. I usually go twice a year.

I really don't know what resellers or online vendors charge for them. Was does an average box of Superiores run at an online vendor? Even though the baseline prices are low, I would imagine the markup is huge. With the production numbers leaning towards the low side and the fact that they are only available at LCDH's (Officially) I can understand why the prices would creep up a bit.

If I remember correctly, Rob has had some Superiores and even La Trova for sale before. I've seen LCDH exclusives for sale at other online retailers with no apparent connection to a physical LCDH. I'm not sure what happens behind the scenes to enable that availability, but it obviously adds cost to the equation. 

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31 minutes ago, Corylax18 said:

Yes, all prices on the island. I usually go twice a year.

I really don't know what resellers or online vendors charge for them. Was does an average box of Superiores run at an online vendor? Even though the baseline prices are low, I would imagine the markup is huge. With the production numbers leaning towards the low side and the fact that they are only available at LCDH's (Officially) I can understand why the prices would creep up a bit.

If I remember correctly, Rob has had some Superiores and even La Trova for sale before. I've seen LCDH exclusives for sale at other online retailers with no apparent connection to a physical LCDH. I'm not sure what happens behind the scenes to enable that availability, but it obviously adds cost to the equation. 

If you watch and wait for deals, the cheapest I’ve been able to get the Superiores online for is $8 a stick. At that price I still think they are a fantastic value. 

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In general I am big fan of LCDH cigars and the rolling quality tends to be more consistent.  That part could be just me...  I have had a box of just about all the cigars mentioned above.

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9 minutes ago, Cayman17 said:

I’m a fan of Superiores but I’ve never seen them for $8 per stick. I’d be all over them at that price. 

No, me neither. Maybe on special a few years ago or a 2-box deal special but good luck finding them for less than $10/stick these days. 

Again, RAS seems to have one of--if not the--largest price disparity between Cuba and worldwide retail. The new QdO 50 & 54 are about 50% of worldwide retail and actually look like Cuba's best deal. 

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2 hours ago, Corylax18 said:

Yes, all prices on the island. I usually go twice a year.

I really don't know what resellers or online vendors charge for them. Was does an average box of Superiores run at an online vendor? Even though the baseline prices are low, I would imagine the markup is huge. With the production numbers leaning towards the low side and the fact that they are only available at LCDH's (Officially) I can understand why the prices would creep up a bit.

If I remember correctly, Rob has had some Superiores and even La Trova for sale before. I've seen LCDH exclusives for sale at other online retailers with no apparent connection to a physical LCDH. I'm not sure what happens behind the scenes to enable that availability, but it obviously adds cost to the equation. 

Yeh, online vendors, about double. Superiores are usually 110 range, la trova pushing 400, h upmann jars anywhere from 325 to 375. So yes,  quite the markup.

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Generally I really enjoy the LCDH releases.


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Generally I really enjoy the LCDH releases.

 

 

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Same here. Notable exception is the HDM Elegantes - they just don’t do it for me.

 

Oh: and the original Noellas Jars. They put me off so much I haven’t even tried any of the later years. Harsh and metallic all the way, even after some years.

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7 hours ago, LLC said:

Generally I really enjoy the LCDH releases.


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me too. all vitolas are good. some more interesting, some less, but all are good.

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