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If you can retrohale a Juan Lopez Seleccion No.2, then I would have to tip my hat off to you. Mind you, I'm talking about youthful powerhouses here, not ones aged and have had their 'edges' taken off. I smoked one from the 2018 Xmas Sampler series with @Luca recently and I think we've been laughing on and off about it ever since. (It's) Just not my cup of tea, but hey, it may be yours!

Below are some other topics on retrohaling...

Incidentally, Keith mentioned in a post linked above that about 1/3 of members retrohaled, while 2/3 didn't...

It was a long time ago though (2010). Perhaps things have changed since then. Personally, I do retrohale mild cigars. The powerhouses I leave to others! ?

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Although I like JL2s, I think the JL1s are genuinely better more interesting cigars. Also just about 'retroable'. I find the creamy woodsy side to the JL1s really balances them out

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I got one from Bwana during the So Cal Herf. I wanted it to dry out before I tried it and perhaps it has by now. Will give it a try John!

-R

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My one and only(so far) box of JL2’s is MEL FEB 17. I retrohale that and anything else. I find I do it without even thinking about it. It’s just part of how I enjoy cigars.


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I had a 6-12 month old box, rested 2-3 months. I retrohaled. Didn't find them overwhelmingly strong. Not my cup of tea though. There's some je ne sais quoi about it that, like an upmann, reminds me of what I don't like about NCs.

I can't think of a cigar that is strong enough that I would feel uncomfortable retrohaling it, though I do find I don't enjoy retrohaling if a cigar is burning hot. Now that I think about it, hardly anything seems like a real powerhouse to me anymore. Probably a lingering effect of the many years I smoked cigarettes. No matter how much of my palate recovered (quite a lot), there will always be some irreparable damage. I don't taste sweet flavors nearly as well as I used to, for example. Plus I started smoking when I was quite young, and had a FAR more sensitive and delicate palate than I would now, even if I had never smoked cigarettes. My baseline is the BBFs and punch black princes of the 90s. THOSE (in my sensory memory) were SERIOUS powerhouses. 898 unvarnished too. Wowzerz. I miss em.

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Love them :spotlight:

Retrohale them until the cows come home :D

 

On the flipside, you can hit ones when young that are just ballistic strong. You can put it down or clinch your sphincter and tough it out. :lol3:

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... no news on my being the odd man out. Smoked one yesterday, hell was even considering buying a box. The cigar was nothing more than mediocre. I won't be buying these....

Dud maybe. My luck certainly... My experience with newer CC's, most definitely!

On the issue of retrohale. Yes, not a problem, but I can concur with @JohnS that the retrohale had a sting! My cigar also had its share of nicotine, without much in the way of enjoyable flavor. The nicotine took me down for about 15 minutes while I cleared my head.

-Piggy

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I think I've only successfully retrohaled once. Idk maybe I'm doing it wrong...or overthinking it..

So what is the MOST powerful reg production cigar out there? I'm curious. There's gotta be one that tops a fresh JL2.

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3 hours ago, Derboesekoenig said:

I think I've only successfully retrohaled once. Idk maybe I'm doing it wrong...or overthinking it..

So what is the MOST powerful reg production cigar out there? I'm curious. There's gotta be one that tops a fresh JL2.

If you ever take a big bite of juicy steak (or whatever), lean back, and exhale in satisfaction while chewing on it, you're retrohaling.  It's really a natural thing.

If you mean powerful in the nose, a fresh Cazzy (RyJ) can make my eyes water.  Not sure if they're generally as strong as their rep, but they'll wake you up, and you can really feel them in the back of your throat.  Then again, some are smoother, so it's a tossup.  A really strong Nicaraguan cigar, like a Tatuaje Cojonu, might be up there in the retrohale regret dept.

 

Edit to add:  Now I really want to try the JL2!

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On 1/26/2019 at 6:35 PM, 99call said:

Although I like JL2s, I think the JL1s are genuinely better more interesting cigars. Also just about 'retroable'. I find the creamy woodsy side to the JL1s really balances them out

I got a fistful of JL1 to try from a recent 24:24.  I find them much better than any JL2 I've had in years.  Young, but a totally different cigar IMO.  I am getting a fair amount of floral out of the first half that I didn't expect.   

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