common misquotes...

[Ken Gargett]

play it again, sam - an obvious one. 

so too, 'no, i am your father' and not, 'luke, i am your father'. 

and never 'do you feel lucky, punk'. rather 'do i feel lucky'. full version - you got to ask yourself one question. do i feel lucky? well do you, punk?

another common one - 'houston, we have a problem' - was actually 'houston, we've had a problem'. 

and jimi hendrix never sang 'excuse me while i kiss this guy'. 

and nor did springsteen ever sing about anyone being wrapped up like a douche (cut loose like a deuce). apparently, as in a deuce coupe (whatever that might be - don't think it was a car we ever had here).  

but one i just heard, which stunned me, in the entire original star trek series, no one ever says, 'beam me up scotty'. very surprised by that. 

others? 

[shrink]

Perhaps not a quote, but...

"The proof is in the pudding". No, it's not. In fact, "The proof of the pudding is in the eating."

[JohnS]

 

Apparently, Steve Waugh has been attributed as saying, "You've just dropped the World Cup" after Herschelle Gibbs dropped him in the 1999 Cricket World Cup. Australia famously went onto win this game, then the semi-final against the same opponents after South Africa famously choked again when Allan Donald ran himself out in a colossal mix-up off the last ball with scores tied.

Steve Waugh has been quoted as saying that he never said this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Cricket_World_Cup_2nd_semi-final

http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/content/story/226915.html

So, what do you call it when you've been quoted but never actually said the words at all?

While we are at it...some little kid did not say to Shoeless Joe Jackson, "say it ain't so, Joe" after the Black Sox trial in 1921...

http://law.jrank.org/pages/2831/-Black-Sox-Trial-1921--Say-Ain-t-So-Joe.html

1 Timothy 6:10 is often quoted as "For the love of money is the root of all evil" but the original Greek suggests otherwise....

ῥίζα γὰρ πάντων τῶν κακῶν ἐστιν ἡ φιλαργυρία

It should be...

"For the love of money is a [not the] root of all evil (or kinds of evil).

[Fuzz AI]

 

[Ken Gargett]

1 hour ago, JohnS said:

 

Apparently, Steve Waugh has been attributed as saying, "You've just dropped the World Cup" after Herschelle Gibbs dropped him in the 1999 Cricket World Cup. Australia famously went onto win this game, then the semi-final against the same opponents after South Africa famously choked again when Allan Donal ran himself out in a colossal mix-up off the last ball with scores tied.

Steve Waugh has been quoted as saying that he never said this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Cricket_World_Cup_2nd_semi-final

http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/content/story/226915.html

So, what do you call it when you've been quoted but never actually said the words at all?

While we are at it...some little kid did not say to Shoeless Joe Jackson, "say it ain't so, Joe" after the Black Sox trial in 1921...

http://law.jrank.org/pages/2831/-Black-Sox-Trial-1921--Say-Ain-t-So-Joe.html

1 Timothy 6:10 is often quoted as "For the love of money is the root of all evil" but the original Greek suggests otherwise....

ῥίζα γὰρ πάντων τῶν κακῶν ἐστιν ἡ φιλαργυρία

It should be...

"For the love of money is a [not the] root of all evil (or kinds of evil).

john, i'd suggest that the usual, but incomplete quote, is 'money is the root of all evil'. but yes, 'love of money...

but now i am curious. you say the original greek (and this is a serious query for i have no idea), are you suggesting that the bible was originally written in greek (it is all greek to me so perhaps...). 

[SirVantes]

It wasn't "a day of infamy", it was "a date which will live in infamy".

[JohnS]

3 hours ago, Ken Gargett said:

john, i'd suggest that the usual, but incomplete quote, is 'money is the root of all evil'. but yes, 'love of money...

but now i am curious. you say the original greek (and this is a serious query for i have no idea), are you suggesting that the bible was originally written in greek (it is all greek to me so perhaps...). 

Yes. The New Testament is written in Koine Greek (it's like comparing Latin to modern English, but since I'm of a Greek background as my.parents are Greek migrants to Australia and I'm second generation Greek Australian I can read it) and the Old Testament is ancient Hebrew.

[Ken Gargett]

45 minutes ago, JohnS said:

Yes. The New Testament is written in Koine Greek (it's like comparing Latin to modern English, but since I'm of a Greek background as my.parents are Greek migrants to Australia and I'm second generation Greek Australian I can read it) and the Old Testament is ancient Hebrew.

well, learn something everyday. thanks for that. but, and apols for hijacking my own thread, that does bring forth the oft discussed concept of who actually wrote it and when. perhaps best we don't then touch on the potential validity or otherwise.

but that is really interesting. beam me up, indeed. 

[Vortigan]

Anybody that ever says "assumably" or "irregardless"! 

[joeypots]

I live by the ocean. One is not happy as a clam. You are happy as a clam at high tide.

[SigmundChurchill]

“I can see Russia from my backyard.”, is commonly attributed to Sarah Palin.  It was really said by Tina Fey, playing Sarah Palin.

[Kitchen]

"You cant have your cake and eat it too."  This just does not make sense if you think about it since you need to have your cake first in order to actually eat it.  But if you say it the original old english way, "you cant eat your cake and have it to," suddenly it all comes together.  

And actually Ken, it was Manfreds Mann's Earth Band that sung, "revved up like a deuce," like a deuce coup.  Yes, it was a remake of a Springsteen song, but Springsteen's chorus line was "cut loose like a deuce."  Manfred Mann changed that lyric.  

[Ken Gargett]

3 minutes ago, Kitchen said:

And actually Ken, it was Manfreds Mann's Earth Band that sung, "revved up like a deuce," like a deuce coup.  Yes, it was a remake of a Springsteen song, but Springsteen's chorus line was "cut loose like a deuce."  Manfred Mann changed that lyric.  

you are absolutely right. when i first wrote the post, i had cut loose but then i thought, i had better get this right so brought up the lyrics. and it had revved up. i thought, wow, i have been wrong all these years. thanks. 

[BuzzArd]

I’d have mentioned (as @shrink did) the misused pudding quote.   The proof is in the pudding is meaningless, unless someone hid a clue therein... 

Some malapropisms drive me crazy (if I can extend the thread intent to include them, @Ken Gargett)  And some drive my progeny bonkers as well and thus I use them frequently ??. Irregardless makes my oldest daughter see shades of red and become semi-homicidal and it’s a huge favorite of mine...  ?????

[ElJavi76]

 You want misquotes? Have you heard of the Mandela Effect? This is beyond trippy...

Star Wars:

Luke, I am your father? (What I remember)

No I am your father. (Our reality)

Forest Gump:

Life is like a box of chocolates. (What I remember)

Life was like a box of chocolates. (Our reality)

Cinderella:

Mirror mirror on the wall... (What I remember)

Magic mirror on the wall... (Our reality)

The Sally Fields thing is nuts. The are literally hundreds of examples all over YouTube. 

The latest one I watched dealt with the Journey song, Don't Stop Believin. 

Just a small town girl living in a lonely world ___ took the midnight train going anywhere. 

Tell me what you remember in there. Enjoy!

[Ken Gargett]

28 minutes ago, ElJavi76 said:

 You want misquotes? Have you heard of the Mandela Effect? This is beyond trippy...

Star Wars:

Luke, I am your father? (What I remember)

No I am your father. (Our reality)

Forest Gump:

Life is like a box of chocolates. (What I remember)

Life was like a box of chocolates. (Our reality)

Cinderella:

Mirror mirror on the wall... (What I remember)

Magic mirror on the wall... (Our reality)

The Sally Fields thing is nuts. The are literally hundreds of examples all over YouTube. 

The latest one I watched dealt with the Journey song, Don't Stop Believin. 

Just a small town girl living in a lonely world ___ took the midnight train going anywhere. 

Tell me what you remember in there. Enjoy!

magic mirror another very common one but it is snow white, not cinderella. seriously embarrassed that i know that. 

[ElJavi76]

9 hours ago, Ken Gargett said:

magic mirror another very common one but it is snow white, not cinderella. seriously embarrassed that i know that. 

I rope-a-doped you Ken. LoL All jokes aside some of these are creepy. The Forest Gump thing... I mean I always remembered it one way. Question is, if she's a small town girl why would HE be getting on the midnight train? Bizarre.

[Riverstyx]

“Lucy, you’ve got some ‘splainin to do!” Was never said

[PigFish]

... and I thought this was a thread about mosquitoes!!!!

-the Pig

[Bill Hayes]

I get annoyed with the use of everyday as one word when used in the wrong context.

[PapaDisco]

On 9/29/2018 at 2:33 PM, JohnS said:

Yes. The New Testament is written in Koine Greek (it's like comparing Latin to modern English, but since I'm of a Greek background as my.parents are Greek migrants to Australia and I'm second generation Greek Australian I can read it) and the Old Testament is ancient Hebrew.

Apparently our man John is dually qualified in both Geek and Greek!  ?

Ken: long on my reading list, but not completed, is the full set of Gospels (the Agnostic Gospels they call them in the U.S.).  Fascinating thinking through which were included and which were excluded.  Besides the obvious issues of author (my Presbyterian Minister likes to discuss this point and rattle off that "this one had 5 authors over 300 years" etc) I also think it's enormously intriguing to read what's colloquially called the, "Jefferson Bible" (Thomas Jefferson called it the "Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth") and it was a project he completed during his presidency in his spare time.  Like our esteemed Mod, Jefferson could read Greek (and Latin, French, Italian, Spanish, and some German, Welsh and Arabic) and he took an early Greek version, Latin Verson and English edition of the New Testament and stripped out everything except for the actual quotes from Jesus.  Gone are all the miracles reported by third parties and related commentary (one of the principal criticisms of the work) but the remaining content is remarkable in it's clarity and universal message.  Quite brilliant.  It is a modest book by size, but a worthy read.

One of my dear friends, when I suggested she read it, responded, "Screw that!  I'm not signing up for any religion without miracles!"  

[MD Puffer]

On 9/29/2018 at 8:45 PM, Kitchen said:

"You cant have your cake and eat it too."  This just does not make sense if you think about it since you need to have your cake first in order to actually eat it.  But if you say it the original old english way, "you cant eat your cake and have it to," suddenly it all comes together.  "

Most notably brought to light during the Unabomber investigation as he used the correct line in his manifesto.

[Stogiepuffer]

... and I thought this was a thread about mosquitoes!!!!
-the Pig

That's what I thought at first glance.

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[Stogiepuffer]

Apparently our man John is dually qualified in both Geek and Greek!  
Ken: long on my reading list, but not completed, is the full set of Gospels (the Agnostic Gospels they call them in the U.S.).  Fascinating thinking through which were included and which were excluded.  Besides the obvious issues of author (my Presbyterian Minister likes to discuss this point and rattle off that "this one had 5 authors over 300 years" etc) I also think it's enormously intriguing to read what's colloquially called the, "Jefferson Bible" (Thomas Jefferson called it the "Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth") and it was a project he completed during his presidency in his spare time.  Like our esteemed Mod, Jefferson could read Greek (and Latin, French, Italian, Spanish, and some German, Welsh and Arabic) and he took an early Greek version, Latin Verson and English edition of the New Testament and stripped out everything except for the actual quotes from Jesus.  Gone are all the miracles reported by third parties and related commentary (one of the principal criticisms of the work) but the remaining content is remarkable in it's clarity and universal message.  Quite brilliant.  It is a modest book by size, but a worthy read.
One of my dear friends, when I suggested she read it, responded, "Screw that!  I'm not signing up for any religion without miracles!"  

Is there a free version in librivox?

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[Ken Gargett]

20 hours ago, PapaDisco said:

Apparently our man John is dually qualified in both Geek and Greek!  ?

Ken: long on my reading list, but not completed, is the full set of Gospels (the Agnostic Gospels they call them in the U.S.).  Fascinating thinking through which were included and which were excluded.  Besides the obvious issues of author (my Presbyterian Minister likes to discuss this point and rattle off that "this one had 5 authors over 300 years" etc) I also think it's enormously intriguing to read what's colloquially called the, "Jefferson Bible" (Thomas Jefferson called it the "Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth") and it was a project he completed during his presidency in his spare time.  Like our esteemed Mod, Jefferson could read Greek (and Latin, French, Italian, Spanish, and some German, Welsh and Arabic) and he took an early Greek version, Latin Verson and English edition of the New Testament and stripped out everything except for the actual quotes from Jesus.  Gone are all the miracles reported by third parties and related commentary (one of the principal criticisms of the work) but the remaining content is remarkable in it's clarity and universal message.  Quite brilliant.  It is a modest book by size, but a worthy read.

One of my dear friends, when I suggested she read it, responded, "Screw that!  I'm not signing up for any religion without miracles!"  

it is a subject that few seem keen to tackle but a really interesting one. my immediate query is how do we know what are the "actual quotes"? not trying to be disrespectful but curious to know how/who decided on these.