Does idiocy impact cigar flavour?

[LordAnubis]

Having a smoke at the local waterhole. Shithole really, but it’s covered and warm and general give no shits attitude by staff. Cigar of the evening is Monte 4 - 8 years old. The last one I smoked last year was fantastic. This started great. Then out come the yobbos. Overhear some story about a guy mixing his recreational powders. The blokes lady goin' round town so to speak. Try not to listen to whatever it is they talking about. Cigar tastes rough as guts. 

Soon as they choof their darts and go back inside the cigar turns good again. Do audio cues impact cigar taste I wonder? 😂 

No better reminder to get La Casa Del Mus build speeding up quick smart! 😂

[99call]

8 hours ago, LordAnubis said:

Then out come the yobbos

You are a fellow sufferer of 'Hanniballecterbumnoteitis'. I've never been a social smoker, and I don't see the attraction. Not that I hate people (well not all people ), but when I'm smoking cigars I'm giving them my full attention, and am fully in the relaxation zone. The likelihood of my cigar being diminished by going to a lounge to listen to someone discus tax evasion tips, is 100%...so I don't.   

[Hoosh]

TL;DR - you may be on to something…or not. 🙂

Perhaps slightly tongue in cheek, but I want to weigh in on this. I am particular about my cigar experience; for me, the actual cigar is but a portion of what my cigar time is all about. For example, I don’t smoke in the car driving home from work, I don’t go to an unknown lounge just to “burn one, etc.” While I do smoke a majority of NC that are medium+ to full in strength to really be aware, I do feel environment can make one smoke their cigar differently (i.e., too fast, too slow, ash too quickly, etc). These differences can make for a less than ideal smoke. 

[MrBirdman]

At first I was confused by your thread title, which I took to ask whether an idiot tastes a cigar differently. And you ain’t one of the idiots here (not that there are that many).

Your question deals with what I would call “ambient idiocy.” Considering that high levels of ambient idiocy and/or imbecility can ruin just about anything, up to and including an entire country, they could easily ruin a cigar. The cigar itself is but one ingredient in the experience - it’s the most important, for sure, but the state of the palate, state of the mind, and state of the surrounds “season” that experience for better or worse. 

Experiences like these are what drove me away from lounges unless I am going with friends - I’d rather smoke at home when conditions are good and just smoke less overall, rather than risk lighting up a really nice cigar one minute and the next minute be trying to convince myself it sucks because I want out of the lounge. An aged Monte 4 used to be cheap enough to put down without much guilt, maybe even at Canadian prices, but those days are over. Part of why some of the joy of CC, and thus cigars in general, has diminished in me forever. 

[Ford2112]

8 hours ago, LordAnubis said:

Soon as they choof their darts  

Ok. I have no idea what this means.

[MrBirdman]

37 minutes ago, Ford2112 said:

Ok.I have no idea what this means.

I believe that’s Oz for smoking cigarettes, at least that’s what I was told. 

I wonder why “ch” words are so closely tied with smoking - choof, chooch, cheech, Chong…

[99call]

37 minutes ago, Ford2112 said:

Ok.I have no idea what this means.

This is the kind of gold you're missing out on Rob.

[teamrandr]

Darts = cigarettes 

[JohnS]

36 minutes ago, MrBirdman said:

I believe that’s Oz for smoking cigarettes, at least that’s what I was told. 

That is correct.

[Chibearsv]

Well, my sister just called me while I was enjoying a Punch Punch and ruined my cigar. So there’s that. 🤔

[LordAnubis]

13 hours ago, Chibearsv said:

Well, my sister just called me while I was enjoying a Punch Punch and ruined my cigar. So there’s that. 🤔

This is exactly the validation I’m looking for 😂

[Hoosh]

What about the other side…you go to a lounge, bringing what is supposed to be a “great” cigar and despite having an awesome time (good friends, good drink, awesome atmosphere), the highly vaunted cigar is a dud. Then what? How much does environment actually help a cigar? That mediocre stick you’ve smoked 15 times because it’s cheap, can it suddenly turn into a pretty decent cigar because of who you’re with and where you are? 

I went out tonight to a place I go every Wednesday and brought a “supposed-to-be” banger. It was…meh. And honestly, given the hype around it, I was completely surprised. It certainly did not warrant the hype it’s gathered. The environment I was in was awesome. I was sorely disappointed with the cigar.  Thankfully, I have more than one, and I am going to smoke another as I typically do to enjoy my cigars - by myself, outside, with a little music, and perhaps the dogs. 

We’ll see…

[Fuzz AI]

A cigar is the dot on the i or the cross on the t. A dud cigar is still a dud cigar, no matter the circumstances.

[joeypots]

On 9/13/2025 at 6:36 PM, Chibearsv said:

Well, my sister just called me while I was enjoying a Punch Punch and ruined my cigar. So there’s that. 🤔

All I have to do is think about any of my sisters. 

[Hoosh]

1 hour ago, Fuzz AI said:

A cigar is the dot on the i or the cross on the t. A dud cigar is still a dud cigar, no matter the circumstances.

This is kinda my thinking, but I have, in the past, had one cigar that was mediocre, and then smoked a couple more of the same that were much better. Plus, my experience with the cigar last night is not at all what I read in reviews about it. It wasn’t a “bad” cigar, it just didn’t sing to me like it apparently has to others. Bland, like (if you’ve ever smoked cigarettes), going from Players Navy Cut to Marlboro Lights…