Box of the Day : Peek at the PCC Aged.

[El Presidente]

Yesterday I went through the PCC Aged stock. they will be up over the next few weeks. 

The stock is all 2014 and they all comprise some excellent codes from that time. Someone in PCC was taking notice or they got really lucky. 

This is just a crossection of what I came across. 

Loved the R&J Churchill. I took this photo to show the oil staining. imaging what they would have looked like 5 years ago....imagine how they would taste today. 

The Lusi are excellent. 

You have heard that the uniform spotting on a cigar is a classic sign of plume and a perfectly aged cigar.  You know from FOHrensics that this is harmless white mould. It's gorgeous. 

 

 

Hoyo de Monterrey Epicure 1's have had a tough couple of recent years in terms of quality.  This is one PCC aged that I will purchase myself as aged Epicure 1 are vanilla bean heaven.  They had a great year in 2014, keep an eye out for them. 

 

 

Hoyo De Monterrey Petit Robusto. 

Sugar cane princesses. One of the stars of 2019 .....but I loved the look of these 2014 boxes.  I mean, is this the perfect looking box of cigars or what?

 

Aged Juan Lopez Seleccion Number 1. One of the great regular production secrets.  These just drip quality.

 

Dip 2's. 

They have been a little thin on the ground of late. This is the 2014 non cellophaned version 

 

Bolivar Royal Corona. 

Picture perfect example of the cocoa cram and leather king. 

[Astar20]

Wow just wow

[OldEasy]

Drooling!

[prodigy]

Are the numbers pretty low as far as number of boxes? Are we talking qdo sell out fast?

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[El Presidente]

4 minutes ago, prodigy said:

Are the numbers pretty low as far as number of boxes? Are we talking qdo sell out fast?

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It really varies. Some will last minutes and others a day. the quantities are not uniform. 

[prodigy]

It really varies. Some will last minutes and others a day. the quantities are not uniform. 

I think the last time I saw PCC aged boxes was when there used to be locker sales. I have some VR unicos from 2012 from those sales. Maybe I can win some spending money in Vegas at the end of the month before these all go up on 2424 lol

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[NSXCIGAR]

So who's still dumb enough to buy the RyJ Churchills Anejados with these coming up? 

I'll take better cigars for less money for $200, Alex.

HSA needs to leave the aging to the distributors. That is, assuming Anejados are aged at all...

[fitzy]

Someone’s been spying on me! Lol

 

Those are my favorites and my regular smokes. The only thing missing is H Upmann no 2 and a few Partagas. 

[Jbhunter223]

@El Presidente   Any ‘14 boli PC in the mix!?

[MD Puffer]

So many cigars, so little time.

[NYMets01]

Those Lusi's look unreal.

Now the hard part is showing enough self-restraint on 24:24 until these start showing up!

[Corylax18]

Am I the only one that noticed the mold in all but one of those boxes? I understand it can be wiped off with relative ease, but it makes me question the conditions that these boxes spent the last 5 years in. 

Rob, are these shipped to you by the mastercase, or random mix and match?

[Akela3rd]

Am I the only one that noticed the mold in all but one of those boxes? I understand it can be wiped off with relative ease, but it makes me question the conditions that these boxes spent the last 5 years in. 

Rob, are these shipped to you by the mastercase, or random mix and match?

"The Lusi are excellent. 

You have heard that the uniform spotting on a cigar is a classic sign of plume and a perfectly aged cigar.  You know from FOHrensics that this is harmless white mould. It's gorgeous."

 

It's been noted it seems.

 

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[bwgan]

Where's the queue??? Churchill, epi 1 and dips for me please

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[Nico]

So who's still dumb enough to buy the RyJ Churchills Anejados with these coming up? 
I'll take better cigars for less money for $200, Alex.
HSA needs to leave the aging to the distributors. That is, assuming Anejados are aged at all...

To be fair, the añejados have the old band and tube. ;-).

[Capt. Corona]

Been looking for a great box of number 1's!

[CptGoodTimes]

[RDB]

Also... it’s truly classic reg prod. I like it!

[Chef]

@El Presidente, any more pictures to tease us with?

[MD Puffer]

On 9/12/2019 at 10:00 AM, Corylax18 said:

Am I the only one that noticed the mold in all but one of those boxes? I understand it can be wiped off with relative ease, but it makes me question the conditions that these boxes spent the last 5 years in. 

Rob, are these shipped to you by the mastercase, or random mix and match?

I hear where you’re coming from, but to each their own- I consider it a more desirable presentation and would pick the ones with plumish mold vs ones without- all else being the same. You may recall some HDM petit robustos on 24/24 about 7-8 months ago that he forewarned had a touch of mold. I wasn’t buying any at the time but still regret not picking up a box or two. 

[Corylax18]

32 minutes ago, MD Puffer said:

I hear where you’re coming from, but to each their own- I consider it a more desirable presentation and would pick the ones with plumish mold vs ones without- all else being the same. You may recall some HDM petit robustos on 24/24 about 7-8 months ago that he forewarned had a touch of mold. I wasn’t buying any at the time but still regret not picking up a box or two. 

Let me get this right. You prefer buying cigars with mold, to cigars without? If so, why? What makes a moldy cigar better than one without? 

As I stated earlier, most mold and the mold on the cigars pictured above isn't a deal breaker for me. But it makes me take pause when the frequency rate of molded cigars from a supplier approaches 100%. I understand mold on cigars in or straight from Cuba, climate control and ambient climate being what it is. I don't understand how or why PCC would put away beautiful cigars for 5 years without investing in the proper climate control needed to store them properly. I'm guessing where talking hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars worth of stock, so money shouldn't be an issue.

If these are the "best" examples imagine the science experiments they have brewing. Mold only grows if cigars are stored too wet and/or to warm, occasionally during shipping, if the cigars had extra water content before they where shipped. You never know the journey a cigar has taken during its life, so I've always preferred to buy young, high quality stock and age it myself. This program is an easy pass for me at this point. 

On 9/12/2019 at 9:20 AM, Akela3rd said:

"The Lusi are excellent. 

You have heard that the uniform spotting on a cigar is a classic sign of plume and a perfectly aged cigar.  You know from FOHrensics that this is harmless white mould. It's gorgeous

 

I did see that. But the Lusi's where the worst offender, and unfortunately not unique. All the cigars looked beautiful, and most looked poorly stored. That's confusing to me when the premium that will be demanded is because they have been stored for 5 years. It seems like PCC is shooting themselves in the foot. 

[Gamehawker]

1 hour ago, MD Puffer said:

I hear where you’re coming from, but to each their own- I consider it a more desirable presentation and would pick the ones with plumish mold vs ones without- all else being the same. You may recall some HDM petit robustos on 24/24 about 7-8 months ago that he forewarned had a touch of mold. I wasn’t buying any at the time but still regret not picking up a box or two. 

Excuses, Excuses!!!! 

It is amazing that my vintage stock, some boxes over eight years and some over 12 years old, do not have mold on them.  And these only 5 years old have some mold on them.  I call a spade a spade and it seems to me that these boxes spent the last 5 years in not optimal conditions.  

I guess some people will buy them and pumped up prices.  

NOT me, but to each their own! ?

[El Presidente]

4 hours ago, Corylax18 said:

I did see that. But the Lusi's where the worst offender, and unfortunately not unique. All the cigars looked beautiful, and most looked poorly stored. That's confusing to me when the premium that will be demanded is because they have been stored for 5 years. It seems like PCC is shooting themselves in the foot. 

Cory, that is because you are incorrect in this instance. 

Take a sealed mastercase out of Havana today, store it at 5 years in my warehouse (68% RH and 16 Centigrade) and in 5 years lets open them. we will find specks of mould on 50% of the boxes to different levels. Mold spores are there from the factory, not the warehouse. 

Now don't get me wrong, we can wipe them before taking a photo or call them plume to make people feel better.  Let's face it my friend, it's what has been done for as long as any of us can remember.

Don't kid yourself 

 

 

[Thirds]

How will these be listed on 24:24 so that we can identify them?  Will the heading be PCC?  I’m not sure what to look for but I’ll be a heat seeking missile on a few of these.  Thanks 

[El Presidente]

3 minutes ago, Thirds said:

How will these be listed on 24:24 so that we can identify them?  Will the heading be PCC?  I’m not sure what to look for but I’ll be a heat seeking missile on a few of these.  Thanks 

It will be clear as the box code will be listed