Outdoorguy84 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Your smoking through a dress box and you finish the top layer of cigars. Every cigar so far has been amazing, the pre light draw, the taste, everything. The next day you open the dress box take the cedar lining out and grab the first one on the lower half. You cut it and try the pre light draw, it’s so tight you can’t even taste anything. So you think, nah must be just me today and go ahead and light her up. The draw is horrible worse than anything you have experienced out of the first half. Since your having issues with the draw, the taste seems a little off. Now your just thinking this must be the one bad one out of the batch. You finish off the stick reluctantly knowing you love this cigar, why put it down. The next day you grab another stick from the same box and try again. Boom, same scenario. What do you do? The dress box is a Partagas Shorts box code AUM MAR 15. My tower Humidor is controlled at 68-70 degrees and 61-63% RH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominattorney Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 buy a perfect draw. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outdoorguy84 Posted February 13, 2019 Author Share Posted February 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, dominattorney said: buy a perfect draw. I do own a perfect draw, couldn’t live without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupe Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I would remove the cedar and put them down for a 6 month nap. Seems to me that they might be a little over humidified and may just need a little more time to acclimate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightonCorgi Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I had that with some boxes, but usually the first one or two or tight and I forget about the box. Come back to it many years later and now I am in love; everything is perfect. I don't try smoking tight cigars. If still tight after the 5 minute mark, I toss it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainQuintero Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Throw it bare in the freezer for 20 min, if still too tight then you're options are some kind of draw poker/drill, chuck it or smoke it and see if it improves You can try to massage any tight spots too but I've never had much luck with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypots Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 The band on the cigar has to be able to slip kind of easily before I’ll smoke the cigar. If it’s a humidification issue this will solve most problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc1016 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Some of the older boxes I purchase have wet/tight issues. I find it helps to open the lid of the box and let them be exposed to the open air in the humi. Maybe the ones on the bottom layer just weren't able to 'breathe' and need to dry out a lil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 hour ago, cfc1016 said: Some of the older boxes I purchase have wet/tight issues. I find it helps to open the lid of the box and let them be exposed to the open air in the humi. Maybe the ones on the bottom layer just weren't able to 'breathe' and need to dry out a lil. After finishing the first layer I open the box and let the bottom half breath for at least 3 weeks before even trying one..really makes a difference 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koosh Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, captain said: After finishing the first layer I open the box and let the bottom half breath for at least 3 weeks before even trying one..really makes a difference I also heard this about the bottom half always needing to breath. I'm planning on rotating the cigars in the box throughout the aging period now that I read this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outdoorguy84 Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 All great recommendations! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jal154 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 22 hours ago, Outdoorguy84 said: Your smoking through a dress box and you finish the top layer of cigars. Every cigar so far has been amazing, the pre light draw, the taste, everything. The next day you open the dress box take the cedar lining out and grab the first one on the lower half. You cut it and try the pre light draw, it’s so tight you can’t even taste anything. So you think, nah must be just me today and go ahead and light her up. The draw is horrible worse than anything you have experienced out of the first half. Since your having issues with the draw, the taste seems a little off. Now your just thinking this must be the one bad one out of the batch. You finish off the stick reluctantly knowing you love this cigar, why put it down. The next day you grab another stick from the same box and try again. Boom, same scenario. What do you do? The dress box is a Partagas Shorts box code AUM MAR 15. My tower Humidor is controlled at 68-70 degrees and 61-63% RH. IMO.....your temp & Rh are perfect. I stay consistent at 72f, 63rh. What I do with all dress boxes is this.......I always remove 1 from the box which I wind up smoking immediately. I take out the little cardboard spacer on the bottom because they are packed so tight and tend to be almost box-pressed. In the case of PD4 I remove the little wood spacer. I put the bottom row on top and the top row on the bottom and remove the cedar sheet. Close the box and put them away. With SLB I pretty much always remove a cigar, cut the ribbon and remove it and put them away. That may be a little OCD but I know for me it works well. ??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainQuintero Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Food for thought: the RyJ Cazadorez are some of the richest and most intense Cubans out there. They are wet packed and rolled in foil then placed in a box and sealed, the next time they see sunlight is when you open them up at home. The are some of the most reliable and consistent cigars from Cuba. Tubo cigars are usually held to a higher regards in terms of richness too. The uniqueness of both these types of cigars are commonly held to be because of their packaging; lack of exposure to fresh air. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthson Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/13/2019 at 9:53 AM, Outdoorguy84 said: Your smoking through a dress box and you finish the top layer of cigars. Every cigar so far has been amazing, the pre light draw, the taste, everything. The next day you open the dress box take the cedar lining out and grab the first one on the lower half. You cut it and try the pre light draw, it’s so tight you can’t even taste anything. So you think, nah must be just me today and go ahead and light her up. The draw is horrible worse than anything you have experienced out of the first half. Since your having issues with the draw, the taste seems a little off. Now your just thinking this must be the one bad one out of the batch. You finish off the stick reluctantly knowing you love this cigar, why put it down. The next day you grab another stick from the same box and try again. Boom, same scenario. What do you do? The dress box is a Partagas Shorts box code AUM MAR 15. My tower Humidor is controlled at 68-70 degrees and 61-63% RH. I'd take them out about a month or 3 before I smoke them and let them sit in a desktop. I age at 67 and smoke around 59-65, so they need time to decompress anyway - it's like a slow motion drybox. I've had box-pressed cigars go round after a year or so. The key is to keep smoking cigars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prodigy Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Food for thought: the RyJ Cazadorez are some of the richest and most intense Cubans out there. They are wet packed and rolled in foil then placed in a box and sealed, the next time they see sunlight is when you open them up at home. The are some of the most reliable and consistent cigars from Cuba. Tubo cigars are usually held to a higher regards in terms of richness too. The uniqueness of both these types of cigars are commonly held to be because of their packaging; lack of exposure to fresh air.I am dealing with severely tight cazzies from my first cab. I wasn't blown away by the flavor, almost seemed dull and muted. Hopefully they come around at some point. For foil wrapped boxes like cazzies, should one remove the foil completely? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainQuintero Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 3 hours ago, prodigy said: I am dealing with severely tight cazzies from my first cab. I wasn't blown away by the flavor, almost seemed dull and muted. Hopefully they come around at some point. For foil wrapped boxes like cazzies, should one remove the foil completely? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk I've always kept them sealed up for a minimum of 3 years, preferably 5+ to get through that fighting spirit they have, but it depends how you like them. I think unwrapped you'd probably lose something from them if you lost the foil wrapping but it's completely subjective. As long as they aren't too wet, and they usually come on that side, you should be able to dry box some for a fortnight to see if that changes them. Most of mine have started off tight when fresh and then they settle down when the box has been in the humidor for a few months and acclimatised I read once someone describing them as 'swamp tobacco' I think it sums them up perfectly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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