best marcas in the ediciones limitada

[straizor]

i'm puffing on a monte sublimes '08 right now and thought to myself how montecristo has nailed every LE so far, imho.

what do you guys think is the marca that has performed well overall?

[Maplepie]

Woah Woah Michel!

Is someone forgetting the Montecristo D Maduro!?!

Also, I'm wondering how many people will say Cohiba here

or RyJ

But seriously : I'd say... Punch! 100% success rate!

I wouldn't buy them, though. Or any LE after '10. I got off the LE Dark Wrapper train a while back and started to direct my attention only on ERdM's selections around the world. Plus, there are Too many aged and RE punches that are not only cheaper, but do taste MUCH better (for now)

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[CaptainQuintero]

The Monte D were fantastic cigars if you picked a well constructed box

[Smallclub]

Woah Woah Michel!

Is someone forgetting the Montecristo D Maduro!?!

Never heard of a Monte D Maduro...

and IMHO, in the global marcas Montecristo and Upmann have the less interesting LE.

Partagas, Hoyo and RyJ have great ones and some failures.

[straizor]

Never heard of a Monte D Maduro...

and IMHO, in the global marcas Montecristo and Upmann have the less interesting LE.

Partagas, Hoyo and RyJ have great ones and some failures.

define interesting

[shlomo]

Few, if any, of the ELs that I have had have been true to the marca.

There have been some hits, but too many forgetful ones as well.

Ironically, I dislike RyJ in general, but the Duke is one of my favorite cigars ever. I don't like the escudos or the Ex before it, and have not tried the new one yet so can't comment on that.

[coug28]

Few, if any, of the ELs that I have had have been true to the marca.

This. ELs are a marca unto themselves IMO. Stopped buying them in 2011 for this very reason. Much prefer the flavors of regular production, not to mention the cheaper price tag.

Would be quite interesting to see a blind EL tasting & see how that would unfold.

[Lotusguy]

In general, more misses than hits for me. Didn't have a chance to try the very early LEs, though - only 2003+

[joeypots]

I started my fascination with Cuban cigars in 2002 just as the EL thing was really taking off. I had loads of PSD#3 Partagas that aged into incredible cigars. I just smoked the last one a year ago. The Monte DC was hit or miss. The R&J Robusto was good. I sold off a lot of the later ones I had, Partagas PSD#4 EL, R&J Hermoso # 4 ,and a bunch of others. and mostly stopped buying them altogether. I decided I liked the flavor of regular production better and really liked the price. A few have made it into my humidor, mostly Monte Cristos. I got a box of sublimes that are pretty damn good but I'm not sure they are worth the coin people are paying for them. I got them cheap from a private sale, If I spent crazy on them I'd be pissed off. If you came for a visit to my house, I'd give you almost any EL I have in my collection before I gave you an aged BCG out of that cab I have stashed in the back of the humidor.

[Maplepie]

Never heard of a Monte D Maduro...

I thought the Montecristo D LE05 was labelled uniformly as a maduro?

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[Smallclub]

I thought the Montecristo D LE05 was labelled uniformly as a maduro?

Nope. AFAIK the first time the word maduro was applied to a post revolution habanos was in 2007, with the release of the Cohiba Maduro 5 series.

[Maplepie]

Nope. AFAIK the first time the word maduro was applied to a post revolution habanos was in 2007, with the release of the Cohiba Maduro 5 series.

taking it to a Google (and asking around) leads me to the conclusion that only H&F and EMS selections seemed to have deemed them "Maduro." Weird.

Ask your local gentry!

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[straizor]

there are some ELs which would qualify as maduros in our eyes, but to habanos (like smallclub said) only the CM5 are officialy labeled as maduro.

[westg]

there are some ELs which would qualify as maduros in our eyes, but to habanos (like smallclub said) only the CM5 are officialy labeled as maduro.

Yep actually labelled maduros..I think the Monti 520 the Sublimes from 08 and the Grand Edmundo from 10 were all stand out EL cigars ....So I would go Monti just over some of the earlier Partagas releases.

[Maplepie]

there are some ELs which would qualify as maduros in our eyes, but to habanos (like smallclub said) only the CM5 are officialy labeled as maduro.

very true. in fact, i would go to the whole length of saying ALMOST ALL LEs past 06 can be considered maduro upon first glance.

but keep in mind the maduro's method of curation: not just the colour. All the Ds i've seen have been EMS. Hence me thinking they were actually Maduro... Check out these [cached]H&F links:

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[Smallclub]

very true. in fact, i would go to the whole length of saying ALMOST ALL LEs past 06 can be considered maduro upon first glance.

but keep in mind the maduro's method of curation: not just the colour. All the Ds i've seen have been EMS. Hence me thinking they were actually Maduro... Check out these [cached]H&F links:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:obAXetRhEywJ:www.simplycigars.co.uk/montecristo-limited-edition-maduro-p-2506.html%3Fcurrency%3DUSD+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=opera

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:O9LSEoNGFT0J:www.cgarsltd.co.uk/product_info_previous.php%3Fproducts_id%3D3476+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=opera

You can't put these links here, read the rules...

What are you trying to say exactly? The ELs from 2000 and 2001 had maduro wrappers, what's the big deal?

[Colt45]

very true. in fact, i would go to the whole length of saying ALMOST ALL LEs past 06 can be considered maduro upon first glance.

Maduro can be considered a color. Maduro is also a process.

Providing links to merchants ("sources") - always poor form.....

[Ken Gargett]

Monte C, 2003 i think, was the limited edition that jumped the shark. what a load of compost. a shocker.

[Maplepie]

You can't put these links here, read the rules...

Providing links to merchants ("sources") - always poor form.....

sorry gents. thought it was okay because they weren't causing any negative attention.

editted out.

whole point of those links was that the LE 05s have been called 'maduro'. so i'm not sure if that's just them seeing how dark the wrapper was and calling it that. or it is actually cured that way.

i also stated that it's only the Brits (hence the two .co.uk sites) that refer to them as Maduros... something's inconsistent here and i'm not sure...

Anyone?

[shlomo]

very true. in fact, i would go to the whole length of saying ALMOST ALL LEs past 06 can be considered maduro upon first glance.

but keep in mind the maduro's method of curation: not just the colour. All the Ds i've seen have been EMS. Hence me thinking they were actually Maduro... Check out these [cached]H&F links:

Links edited out.

You need to look at more ELs then. While there are certainly a larger portion with some darker wrappers, some even of the thick fireproof, variety (like in the Maduro 5 line), than in regular stock, there is no possible way anybody could claim that all or "almost all" ELs from the past 8 years have been maduro. That is simply incorrect.

[shlomo]

sorry gents. thought it was okay because they weren't causing any negative attention.

editted out.

whole point of those links was that the LE 05s have been called 'maduro'. so i'm not sure if that's just them seeing how dark the wrapper was and calling it that. or it is actually cured that way.

i also stated that it's only the Brits (hence the two .co.uk sites) that refer to them as Maduros... something's inconsistent here and i'm not sure...

Anyone?

What 2 UK sites? Other forums or vendors? If the maduro label was put on the cigars outside of Cuba, then it is nothing more than a selling point to attract people who think maduro and darker wrappers mean better cigars.

[straizor]

What 2 UK sites? Other forums or vendors? If the maduro label was put on the cigars outside of Cuba, then it is nothing more than a selling point to attract people who think maduro and darker wrappers mean better cigars.

i agree. it all comes down to making a tastier selling pitch.

[straizor]

Monte C, 2003 i think, was the limited edition that jumped the shark. what a load of compost. a shocker.

i quite liked them, but i only started smoking them with almost 10 years of age on them. tastes differ i guess

[subport]

Montecristo and Upmann have the less interesting LE.

Partagas, Hoyo and RyJ have great ones and some failures.

Petty much all the way around this for me. except partagas. Really dont give a flying f about hoyo and r&y. While monte sublime, grand edmundo, and 520 were all spot on.

Thank God we are different, makes life complicated and better

*puffin on a GE right now. Lovely smoke

[Maplepie]

What 2 UK sites? Other forums or vendors? If the maduro label was put on the cigars outside of Cuba, then it is nothing more than a selling point to attract people who think maduro and darker wrappers mean better cigars.

Vendors. But I'm not thinking malice or advertising, though.

Wouldn't be like them to do something like that.

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