kevinfj Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Hello amigo's. Just a quick question. I am currently fighting a grudge match against a Trinidad Robusto Extra ('08). The burn has been poor from the start. I am trying to resist the urge to correct the poor burn. Sometimes I find that the corrective measures create more problems. What is your take? Leave it alone to self-correct/continue to suck? Try to fix it? FJ88
Squarehead Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Sometimes you win,sometimes you lose.I always correct a lousy draw.Maybe only once,other times 3 or 4 times.
Montaigut Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Hello amigo's. Just a quick question. I am currently fighting a grudge match against a Trinidad Robusto Extra ('08). The burn has been poor from the start. I am trying to resist the urge to correct the poor burn. Sometimes I find that the corrective measures create more problems. What is your take? Leave it alone to self-correct/continue to suck? Try to fix it? FJ88 Ola compay, Hard to say without having a look at the big boy. I think you can tell when a burn gone awry will self correct and when it will not by looking at it. If it looks like it will be going south I normally correct. I find not doing it will alter the overall taste and flavors; too much air coming in from the non burning portion, lower burning temperature... Plus having to constantly pull on it makes for a paranoid experience instead of an enjoyable one. Cheers
brazoseagle Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 I use a high powered torch that I can pinpoint the flame with a high level of accuracy to make corrections here and there when experiencing a poor burn. I keep my cigars at 65F and between 62%-65% rh, so I rarely get poor burns, but when I do they are usually the fault of the ambient air/wind/humidity of my smoking environment.
cigcars Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Does this include tunneling? I've never relied on a poor burn to correct itself. Even if it could I lack the patience to wait. I just take my lighter and either even it up or if it's tunneling I have my cocktail straw in my iced drink & tap a drop or two into the tunneled section.
Colt45 Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 I guess it depends on how bad it actually is, but for me if it's truly off, I've no problem with a touch up.
Rushman Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 If it looks like it could in any way funnel I correct. If its uneven I let it self correct. If it affects the smoking experience (ie too much air from the mon burning side, too much puffing, etc) I will always correct. I use a big ass vector triple torch to toast and light my sticks but I try (I'm sometimes too lazy) to get a single torch to correct burns so I don't overheat the cigar and also negatively affect the smoking experience. --- I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=20.631828,-87.070710
LLC Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 I'll use a single torch to correct if required.
ramon_cojones Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 I never understood why an uneven burn is a big deal to some people, I just hit it with the torch real quick if it happens to happen and resume smoking.
Cigar Connoisseur Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 I use a single flame torch to correct an uneven burn.... Something about it canoeing just bothers me...
Ginseng Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 If it's a bona fide tunnel, then depending on the severity, there might not be anything you can do. A tunnel is defined as a longitudinal hollow, or low density channel along the barrel of the cigar. This can result from improper bunching and manifests as an accelerated sharp burn region that moves well in advance of the rest of the circumferential burn front. I know, a picture is worth a thousand words. You'll know it's a tunnel because if you press down on the area behind the burn line where it's racing ahead, you'll clearly feel an empty or spongy zone and this zone will continue as if leaf were missing beneath the wrapper and binder. I have, on occasion been able to slow it down a bit by nearly constantly dabbing the unburnt region ahead of the tunneling with spit. But in this case, the quality of your smoking experience is probably already headed down the crapper. If it is simply an uneven burn front, especially with a portion that's lagging (meaning a region of unburnt tobacco that lags behind the circumferential burn front), then this is what I do: 1. Hit the unburnt portion with my torch lighter and hold for a few seconds until the wrapper and binder are burnt and dark. 2. Gently blow on this area until it turns grey to match the rest of the ash. 3. Keep on smoking. I'm an inveterate toucher-upper so this works for me. Some folks like to ride it out and that's just fine too. Wilkey
Ginseng Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 I never understood why an uneven burn is a big deal to some people... I imagine that some of the reasons why an uneven burn might be a source of consternation to some, especially those new to smoking, could be: uncertainty about whether this might affect the flavor or performance concern about whether it could get out of control resulting in loss of the stick fixation about the aesthetics of a clean, even burn line (me, sorta) not wanting to seem like they can't handle their cigar curiosity about what could result in such a condition probably a couple more things that could come to mind Wilkey
Ghabanos Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 I imagine that some of the reasons why an uneven burn might be a source of consternation to some, especially those new to smoking, could be: uncertainty about whether this might affect the flavor or performance concern about whether it could get out of control resulting in loss of the stick fixation about the aesthetics of a clean, even burn line (me, sorta) not wanting to seem like they can't handle their cigar curiosity about what could result in such a condition probably a couple more things that could come to mind Wilkey I am a bit of a number 3
Dbone Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 If it's not burning correct, it's not smoking right either. I do what I can to keep it burning as designed.
MrGlass Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 I'll give it a chance to correct itself, but if it doesn't improve then it's out with the torch to correct.
edlye Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 I can usually taste the difference in the case of a bonafide tunneling. My fix is cutting about 1.5cm behind the visible burn line and cutting a bit more until I see a clean unburnt cross-section and relight from there. The key is to moisten the wrapper at the area to be cut with a bit of water or saliva before cutting to reduce the risk of cracking. For cases of an uneven or lobe-sided burn line, I usually leave it alone if it tastes fine otherwise I clear the ash, hit the foot with a torch and purge gently for about 5-10 secs.
Cigar Connoisseur Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 I imagine that some of the reasons why an uneven burn might be a source of consternation to some, especially those new to smoking, could be: uncertainty about whether this might affect the flavor or performance concern about whether it could get out of control resulting in loss of the stick fixation about the aesthetics of a clean, even burn line (me, sorta) not wanting to seem like they can't handle their cigar curiosity about what could result in such a condition probably a couple more things that could come to mind Wilkey I'm more of a #3 too....
bolivr Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Funny, over many years of smoking I don't think i have ever had any cigar truly tunnel. On topic, yes I touch up the burn, maybe to the point of being a little OCD about it. I can't let it go crook, it bugs me when I see something not right and it is easy to fix - so I fix it
almudawi Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 I never understood why an uneven burn is a big deal to some people, I just hit it with the torch real quick if it happens to happen and resume smoking. Agreed
sharks Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Uneven burns, hit it with the torch, correct the burn, sit back relax and enjoy Sharks
OZCUBAN Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 I too am a #3 sort of guy And the fact that if it's not one thing,t its another ,when it comes to Cubans,why do I love them so If it needs to touched up I use a torch,and by the same token if needs to be chucked It's chucked . I am so over trying to nurse uncooperative Cubans ,I do what I have to and move on Cheers OZ
canadianbeaver Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 I don't care if a cigar burns unevenly. What I have no patience for is a bad draw. If the stick is taking to long to get a good smooth puff, I'll give a chance with one poke. If not corrected, I abandon and go for another. Lisa
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