Let's talk about watches...

[SigmundChurchill]

13 hours ago, ShaazK said:

Their job is to:

    Make you believe your first choice is a long shot
    Try Palm off less desirable models - women’s Calatrava, some jeweled pieces, a few Grand Complications onto you to build some loyalty
    Miraculous appearance of your desired watch because you’re such a nice guy and they love you.

I’d be surprised if many or any people are actually buying Cubitus at double RRP. Premium for sure like any sports PP or AP but they’re trying their luck for now. The trend is downward, don’t be hasty.

So, does this hold true for the Nautilus too? Because I didn't even try for a nautilus because everyone says that they don't let anyone buy a Nautilus as their first Patek.

[chasy]

1 hour ago, SigmundChurchill said:

So, does this hold true for the Nautilus too? Because I didn't even try for a nautilus because everyone says that they don't let anyone buy a Nautilus as their first Patek.

In my experience the Nautilus is unobtainable. 

[tbelle7]

1 hour ago, SigmundChurchill said:

So, does this hold true for the Nautilus too? Because I didn't even try for a nautilus because everyone says that they don't let anyone buy a Nautilus as their first Patek.

Skip the line and the obnoxious AD system. Go grey.

[my happy place]

3 hours ago, tbelle7 said:

Skip the line and the obnoxious AD system. Go grey.

Sadly, this is the right way to do it. AD's will have you spend more money to establish "purchase history" than what you'd spend on the grey market. You just have to know it's the watch you really want and NOT look at grey market pricing afterwards.

[chasy]

I absolutely love the Nautilus 5712. Only way to get one now is grey market. Fortunately I have more important things that require that amount of dough (e.g. young kids), so it will remain a pipe dream for many more years…

[SigmundChurchill]

On 8/24/2025 at 8:57 AM, ShaazK said:

Their job is to:

1. Make you believe your first choice is a long shot
2. Try Palm off less desirable models - women’s Calatrava, some jeweled pieces, a few Grand Complications onto you to build some loyalty
3. Miraculous appearance of your desired watch because you’re such a nice guy and they love you.

I’d be surprised if many or any people are actually buying Cubitus at double RRP. Premium for sure like any sports PP or AP but they’re trying their luck for now. The trend is downward, don’t be hasty.

Got any timeframe for the miraculous appearance, because I am considering buying a 6119-R instead.  

The salesperson was actually encouraging about the watch, but everyone else I have spoken to has been pretty discouraging.

[ShaazK]

On 8/24/2025 at 9:13 PM, SigmundChurchill said:

So, does this hold true for the Nautilus too? Because I didn't even try for a nautilus because everyone says that they don't let anyone buy a Nautilus as their first Patek.

Holds true for all desirable PP. You have to go through the stuff they can’t sell and then the one you want will appear. It’s the system. S**tty but true.

You should still have your wishlist to include a Nautilus.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[ShaazK]

On 8/29/2025 at 11:27 PM, SigmundChurchill said:

Got any timeframe for the miraculous appearance, because I am considering buying a 6119-R instead.  
The salesperson was actually encouraging about the watch, but everyone else I have spoken to has been pretty discouraging.

Unfortunately the timeframe is anyone’s guess - The AD knows but won’t ever tell you. 6119-R is beautiful. Go for it, build a nice relationship with the AD. If you’re dead set on Nautilus and want it now, grey is the only way.

IMHO Cubitus is more polarising and I know of a few people who don’t have Nautilus or a long relationship with PP that have already been offered Cubitus - it’s not as “in demand” as they make it seem. I would not pay over RRP for it.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[SCgarman]

I'm eventually going to sell my yellow gold Submariner and replace it with something more modest like a Tudor Black Bay 68 blue dial. My tastes have changed since I bought it 8 years ago. It no longer has the same appeal it once had. Never thought I would say that. 

[Chucko8]

Pretty happy with this acquisition.

[BrightonCorgi]

8 hours ago, Chucko8 said:

Pretty happy with this acquisition.

Steel or Titanium?

[Chucko8]

51 minutes ago, BrightonCorgi said:

Steel or Titanium?

Steel

[SigmundChurchill]

Which are the most and least reputable gray market dealers?

I have been reading about people on Chrono 24 having their watches serviced, only to find out that they bought a fake, or some of the internal parts are not from the manufacturer.

[SigmundChurchill]

On 9/7/2025 at 9:52 PM, Chucko8 said:

Pretty happy with this acquisition.

Very nice. I like the pattern on the face.

[tbelle7]

34 minutes ago, SigmundChurchill said:

Which are the most and least reputable gray market dealers?

I have been reading about people on Chrono 24 having their watches serviced, only to find out that they bought a fake, or some of the internal parts are not from the manufacturer.

I have used David & Sons (Ethan, he's got a high profile social media presence), Pride and Pinion (before these non-sensical tariffs began), and Wrist Aficionado (they have multiple boutiques). Never had a question or any issues. They register manufacturer warranties in your name etc..

[BrightonCorgi]

2 hours ago, SigmundChurchill said:

Which are the most and least reputable gray market dealers?

I have been reading about people on Chrono 24 having their watches serviced, only to find out that they bought a fake, or some of the internal parts are not from the manufacturer.

Stick with a US based dealer on Chrono24. You have a grace period when getting the watch before the transaction is complete.  Perhaps you can work something out with them around your concerns? 

Meet them in person and have watch examined in their locale? 

Buy from a verified seller that sells a lot of similar watches?

[HDGSN]

16 hours ago, SigmundChurchill said:

Which are the most and least reputable gray market dealers?

I have been reading about people on Chrono 24 having their watches serviced, only to find out that they bought a fake, or some of the internal parts are not from the manufacturer.

Look into these and other trusted sellers on the Rolex Forums

 

[Pmo13]

Finally landed my holy grail. As a kid who grew up in the 90s, and whose first Bond movie was Goldeneye, there is no cooler watch on the planet than the Omega Seamaster 2541.80.

This particular watch is model year ‘98, so as much as I’d like to go full Brosnan, I’m much happier with the SuperLuminova as opposed to the old Tritium.

Simply perfection.

[BrightonCorgi]

7 hours ago, Pmo13 said:

Finally landed my holy grail. As a kid who grew up in the 90s, and whose first Bond movie was Goldeneye, there is no cooler watch on the planet than the Omega Seamaster 2541.80.

Simply perfection.

One of Omega's classics. Looks great with a blue rubber strap too. 

What does the crown on the left side do? 

[Fuzz AI]

7 hours ago, Pmo13 said:

Finally landed my holy grail. As a kid who grew up in the 90s, and whose first Bond movie was Goldeneye, there is no cooler watch on the planet than the Omega Seamaster 2541.80.

Simply perfection.

My bro has this watch. I was envious when he got it.

6 hours ago, BrightonCorgi said:

One of Omega's classics. Looks great with a blue rubber strap too. 

What does the crown on the left side do? 

Helium escape valve.

[Pmo13]

6 hours ago, BrightonCorgi said:

One of Omega's classics. Looks great with a blue rubber strap too. 

What does the crown on the left side do? 

It’s a helium escape valve for decompression after you’ve been on a deep dive. Don’t imagine it’s something I’ll need in the future lol, but it’s one of those mainstays of the design!

[BrightonCorgi]

16 hours ago, Pmo13 said:

It’s a helium escape valve for decompression after you’ve been on a deep dive. Don’t imagine it’s something I’ll need in the future lol, but it’s one of those mainstays of the design!

Does is have to be unscrewed at a certain point to work? I thought the valve was always working and didn't need to be enabled.

[Fuzz AI]

6 hours ago, BrightonCorgi said:

Does is have to be unscrewed at a certain point to work? I thought the valve was always working and didn't need to be enabled.

It's not an automatic release valve, so you do need to unscrew it. 

[westg]

22 hours ago, Pmo13 said:

Finally landed my holy grail. As a kid who grew up in the 90s, and whose first Bond movie was Goldeneye, there is no cooler watch on the planet than the Omega Seamaster 2541.80.

This particular watch is model year ‘98, so as much as I’d like to go full Brosnan, I’m much happier with the SuperLuminova as opposed to the old Tritium.

Simply perfection.

Love it

[Rhod]

Finally picked up a grail I have been wanting for a long time. Birthyear (1968) matte dial 5513. It's not a perfect collector's specimen. Been polished at some point, I suspect hands and possibly pip have been replaced. Bracelet isn't correct. But I'm buying it to wear it and for that it's awesome.