Let's talk about watches...

[SigmundChurchill]

13 hours ago, ShaazK said:

Their job is to:

    Make you believe your first choice is a long shot
    Try Palm off less desirable models - women’s Calatrava, some jeweled pieces, a few Grand Complications onto you to build some loyalty
    Miraculous appearance of your desired watch because you’re such a nice guy and they love you.

I’d be surprised if many or any people are actually buying Cubitus at double RRP. Premium for sure like any sports PP or AP but they’re trying their luck for now. The trend is downward, don’t be hasty.

So, does this hold true for the Nautilus too? Because I didn't even try for a nautilus because everyone says that they don't let anyone buy a Nautilus as their first Patek.

[chasy]

1 hour ago, SigmundChurchill said:

So, does this hold true for the Nautilus too? Because I didn't even try for a nautilus because everyone says that they don't let anyone buy a Nautilus as their first Patek.

In my experience the Nautilus is unobtainable. 

[tbelle7]

1 hour ago, SigmundChurchill said:

So, does this hold true for the Nautilus too? Because I didn't even try for a nautilus because everyone says that they don't let anyone buy a Nautilus as their first Patek.

Skip the line and the obnoxious AD system. Go grey.

[my happy place]

3 hours ago, tbelle7 said:

Skip the line and the obnoxious AD system. Go grey.

Sadly, this is the right way to do it. AD's will have you spend more money to establish "purchase history" than what you'd spend on the grey market. You just have to know it's the watch you really want and NOT look at grey market pricing afterwards.

[chasy]

I absolutely love the Nautilus 5712. Only way to get one now is grey market. Fortunately I have more important things that require that amount of dough (e.g. young kids), so it will remain a pipe dream for many more years…

[SigmundChurchill]

On 8/24/2025 at 8:57 AM, ShaazK said:

Their job is to:

1. Make you believe your first choice is a long shot
2. Try Palm off less desirable models - women’s Calatrava, some jeweled pieces, a few Grand Complications onto you to build some loyalty
3. Miraculous appearance of your desired watch because you’re such a nice guy and they love you.

I’d be surprised if many or any people are actually buying Cubitus at double RRP. Premium for sure like any sports PP or AP but they’re trying their luck for now. The trend is downward, don’t be hasty.

Got any timeframe for the miraculous appearance, because I am considering buying a 6119-R instead.  

The salesperson was actually encouraging about the watch, but everyone else I have spoken to has been pretty discouraging.

[ShaazK]

On 8/24/2025 at 9:13 PM, SigmundChurchill said:

So, does this hold true for the Nautilus too? Because I didn't even try for a nautilus because everyone says that they don't let anyone buy a Nautilus as their first Patek.

Holds true for all desirable PP. You have to go through the stuff they can’t sell and then the one you want will appear. It’s the system. S**tty but true.

You should still have your wishlist to include a Nautilus.


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[ShaazK]

On 8/29/2025 at 11:27 PM, SigmundChurchill said:

Got any timeframe for the miraculous appearance, because I am considering buying a 6119-R instead.  
The salesperson was actually encouraging about the watch, but everyone else I have spoken to has been pretty discouraging.

Unfortunately the timeframe is anyone’s guess - The AD knows but won’t ever tell you. 6119-R is beautiful. Go for it, build a nice relationship with the AD. If you’re dead set on Nautilus and want it now, grey is the only way.

IMHO Cubitus is more polarising and I know of a few people who don’t have Nautilus or a long relationship with PP that have already been offered Cubitus - it’s not as “in demand” as they make it seem. I would not pay over RRP for it.


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[SCgarman]

I'm eventually going to sell my yellow gold Submariner and replace it with something more modest like a Tudor Black Bay 68 blue dial. My tastes have changed since I bought it 8 years ago. It no longer has the same appeal it once had. Never thought I would say that.