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I do wonder sometimes how much of the moonshot(ting) in prices has to do with Chen Zhi & C-suite leadership, versus if that portion of HSA was still owned by a stodgy by comparison multinational tobacco co...this, versus a '98 cajon signed by Fidel? It's probably similar money, sadly.

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  • JohnS changed the title to The Fundadores 55 signals a deliberate recalibration of luxury rather than a simple escalation of price.
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Available: The truly unique Double Happiness Fundadores. 19 cigars presented in a varnished semi boite nature box with truly luxurious airflow capacity for 24 cigars. Marked AEM MAR 15, the cigars are aged 10 years fully rolled, fully boxed. They are then double-aged, double-boxed in a custom tupperdore polymerized hermetic cartouche. Double aging is the mark of truly great whisky and is now applied to cigars with AI technology. The serial number (1 of 1) is hand-applied by an artisan whose work has never before been commercially available. Bidding now open.

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12 hours ago, BigGuns said:

I guess I’ll just send exuberant praise for their dedication to roll and stow these fine examples of supreme craftsmanship for 10 years. The planning. The foresight. The honesty.

I mean it has to be a joke right?! No one in their right mind can actually believe that HSA had the foresight right?! To roll some fundies at El Laguito (which in of itself I've NEVER SEEN before), put them aside for 10 years for a new ultra limited vintage line, jack up Trini prices 300+% and then auction them off. We've never seen that sort of competency coming out of HSA. Anyone who bids on these should know they are getting duped in regards to the 'age statement'. 

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26 minutes ago, ATGroom said:

The claim about these specific cigars being rolled at EL wasn't in any of the press material that Habanos put out. I'd say likely this article is just AI slop wanting to add in some detail about the "Trinidad factory" and finding the early history of the brand at EL as the most mentioned one.

As to the age claim, for these cigars in particular I think there is some credibility to it.

For the first few years of the Anejados program when they were doing custom sizes, the conspiracy theory that they were actually rebanded cigars from other brands  seems to at least make some sense as it seemed a bit wild that they had made this whole program with custom sizes, new blends etc. over multiple years and then kept quiet about it for eight years before suddenly springing them into the market.

The early years of that program weren't that successful, so in 2016 they scrapped the custom sizes and went on hiatus for a few years while they switched to doing regular aged stock instead.

In 2021 they announced the Fundies as the Anejados for that year, which were supposed to be 5-8 years old at that point. That tracks with them having been put aside when they made the decision to alter the program in 2016.

COVID happened, things were delayed, the market changed, and rather than just release the aged Fundies in their regular boxes as was the original plan, they sat on them a few years longer and put them in fancy humidors for the upsell. Makes sense to me.🤷‍♀️

The other 2021 cancelled Anejados was the Monte Tubos, so we'll see them in a Dupont humidor as the first Vintage 15 in 2030.

Does this presume a level of organization that HSA seems otherwise to lack? Or is this genuinely reasonable based on your knowledge of how they operate (which is beyond light years ahead of mine)?

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I find it just a little funny that in the 21st century, we are having still conversations like this about product puffery. "NO, I don't believe that GTR engines are each individually hand built by "master technicians" who sign the plaques...but I do enjoy my Altima."

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I do wonder how the state of the regime impacts HSA. As long as there's a production pipeline they can leave the shiny stuff in the ageing rooms I guess. Although the power shortages might affect any climate control? I don't know how much they have to control conditions though. Looking over the last 5 years revenue growth means they can afford to sit on 'specials' I guess. So we might just keep seeing these ultra high releases. With at least a little credibility. They certainly have managed to recalibrate away from me. How much further can they push? For how much longer? Anyone's guess.

So with recent developments what's the longer term view of the regime I wonder? How much money does HSA give over to the regime? Will they finally just seize whatever's left and run?

Hope there's a recalibration soon that helps make things better over there. 😞

 

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Remember the Anejados from a few years back? Secretly rolled and aged and presented to the world, would I really want to pay this much $$ for sticks if I could not trust the hype?

Possibly the tobacco for these came from the 2014 crop, I remember the 2015 sticks I had were not the best of the 2010 to 2015 era.

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On 1/29/2026 at 3:37 PM, Chibearsv said:

Once you recalibrate your luxury, you'll understand and pay up.  Otherwise, you'll just be a cretin, like me. :spotlight:

Knuckle dragging Bears fan! 😂

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I rather enjoyed the Anejados cigars I have smoked. If you were able to buy a box at a reasonable price which they were for a bit, you must be happy on that.

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@LizardGizmo, Bam maybe could’ve gotten even MORE for his Fundies! 😂 

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I'm actually not a fan of Trinidad in general but this looks like it was created for the Saudi royal family.

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On 1/31/2026 at 11:57 AM, ATGroom said:

In 2021 they announced the Fundies as the Anejados for that year, which were supposed to be 5-8 years old at that point. That tracks with them having been put aside when they made the decision to alter the program in 2016.

This would make sense to me as well/tracks for the correct time period anyways. 

On 1/31/2026 at 11:57 AM, ATGroom said:

The claim about these specific cigars being rolled at EL wasn't in any of the press material that Habanos put out

This also makes it a little more believable from my view as I've just never seen a Fundy with that factory code. AI slop would likely check out. 

I must say after reading your points, it seems much more plausible that the age statement may very well be 'legit'. I guess smart on them from rebranding them in a shiny new humidor and making a killing.

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