A decade-long question finally answered? New James Bond chosen

[CaptainQuintero]

All those years of @Ken Gargett doggedly narrowing down the options, and I don't think any of us ever guessed right

https://news.sky.com/story/aaron-taylor-johnson-chosen-as-next-james-bond-reports-say-13097868

  I think I'm pleasantly surprised, at the very least I'm very interested to see how he makes it his own. I first saw him in Nowhere Boy playing John Lennon, he was incredible in that so I think it bodes well.

  

[Hammer Smokin']

Excellent. I was hearing rumors of Cillian Murphy, and I think he's better than rehashing bond roles.

I get that Bond has a big following (mainly in Great Britain), but it's a pretty played out franchise. 

[CaptainQuintero]

7 hours ago, Hammer Smokin' said:

Excellent. I was hearing rumors of Cillian Murphy, and I think he's better than rehashing bond roles.

I get that Bond has a big following (mainly in Great Britain), but it's a pretty played out franchise. 

 It's always interesting that each Bond has their own take on the role. I'd like to see this one go much much darker and close to the original Bond, based on Johnson in Nowhere Boy I think he has that range.

 Although I'm not sure studios have the desire to risk the wrath of certain extremely vocal sections of society in going down that route. There's always the risk that it could be another Dalton style Bond..

[99call]

It's interesting, usually I'm a Bond fan. But with the UK being in such a bloody awful place at the moment, the idea of a swashbuckling secret agent just seems ridiculous.  

Watching Q parade his latest selection of hi-tech toys, I will just be thinking..."I wish they would just spend that money on the NHS or...the actual real defence budget". 

That said, if the new plot includes Bond garrotting a corrupt group of UK politicians that have sold out our country to a group of oligarchs...I'm here for it all day long. Mind you, I think they have already had that plot many times over. 

 

[cnov]

7 hours ago, 99call said:

It's interesting, usually I'm a Bond fan. But with the UK being in such a bloody awful place at the moment, the idea of a swashbuckling secret agent just seems ridiculous.  

Watching Q parade his latest selection of hi-tech toys, I will just be thinking..."I wish they would just spend that money on the NHS or...the actual real defence budget". 

That said, if the new plot includes Bond garrotting a corrupt group of UK politicians that have sold out our country to a group of oligarchs...I'm here for it all day long. Mind you, I think they have already had that plot many times over. 

Sounds like you need a bit of escapism! 🤣

[99call]

12 minutes ago, cnov said:

Sounds like you need a bit of escapism! 🤣

Watched Poor Things the other day. That was a nice slice of comedy and escapism

[SpecialK]

Enjoyed him in the Brad Pitt "Bullet Train" movie. He did a good job.

 

[Hoepssa]

Not a bad choice! 

[MoeFOH]

19 hours ago, CaptainQuintero said:

All those years of @Ken Gargett doggedly narrowing down the options, and I don't think any of us ever guessed right

https://news.sky.com/story/aaron-taylor-johnson-chosen-as-next-james-bond-reports-say-13097868

  I think I'm pleasantly surprised, at the very least I'm very interested to see how he makes it his own. I first saw him in Nowhere Boy playing John Lennon, he was incredible in that so I think it bodes well.

At least they didn't give it to some twat named Lazenby. 

Very good to see you about on here again, Greg! . Has it been a while or have I just been ignorant? (totally possible) 🤔

[MrFolgers]

18 hours ago, Hammer Smokin' said:

Excellent. I was hearing rumors of Cillian Murphy, and I think he's better than rehashing bond roles.

Any rumor regarding an actor over the age of 40 you can bet is rubbish. Given the rate they churn bond movies out now, they need a spry young actor who can carry the franchise for 4 films over 15 years. 

[BigGuns]

10 hours ago, SpecialK said:

Enjoyed him in the Brad Pitt "Bullet Train" movie. He did a good job.

Was about to say the same. Now it seems like that roll could have been a makeshift audition for Bond. Darker and more villainous, but yeah, didn't know the name, but when I looked it up and saw that credit, it made sense.

[CaptainQuintero]

6 hours ago, MoeFOH said:

At least they didn't give it to some twat named Lazenby. 

Very good to see you about on here again, Greg! . Has it been a while or have I just been ignorant? (totally possible) 🤔

 Very underrated Bond that chap, some might even say the thinkers choice. Easily in the top 10 Bond actors.

 It's been a while! But one of my core personality traits is apparently being difficult to remove, like the subtle yet insidious taint of a curry stain on a favourite shirt, I've wafted back in.

[Fuzz]

4 hours ago, CaptainQuintero said:

 Easily in the top 10 Bond actors

Nelson, Connery, Niven, Lazenby, Moore, Dalton, Brosnan, Craig...

I guess your statement is technically true.

 

[MoeFOH]

4 hours ago, CaptainQuintero said:

Very underrated Bond that chap, some might even say the thinkers choice. Easily in the top 10 Bond actors.

 It's been a while! But one of my core personality traits is apparently being difficult to remove, like the subtle yet insidious taint of a curry stain on a favourite shirt, I've wafted back in.

[Ken Gargett]

8 hours ago, SpecialK said:

Enjoyed him in the Brad Pitt "Bullet Train" movie. He did a good job.

 

i think i need to see that film. loved the book. have not seen this bloke in anything as far as i know. 

[Ken Gargett]

19 hours ago, CaptainQuintero said:

All those years of @Ken Gargett doggedly narrowing down the options, and I don't think any of us ever guessed right

https://news.sky.com/story/aaron-taylor-johnson-chosen-as-next-james-bond-reports-say-13097868

  I think I'm pleasantly surprised, at the very least I'm very interested to see how he makes it his own. I first saw him in Nowhere Boy playing John Lennon, he was incredible in that so I think it bodes well.

i think you might be giving me way too much credit for my efforts. 

interesting that one of the actors, rory Kinnear i think, who plays tanner?, said that the thing about the new Bond is that it is always someone no one expects and that the family are incredibly good at keeping these things quiet until such time as they want it revealed. 

my bloke from Bollinger who is my inside source on all things Bond has sadly just retired. he was due here in a month or two. so i have nothing to add. 

 

5 hours ago, MrFolgers said:

Any rumor regarding an actor over the age of 40 you can bet is rubbish. Given the rate they churn bond movies out now, they need a spry young actor who can carry the franchise for 4 films over 15 years. 

i think that is exactly right. early 40s pretty much it. although this latest one has been very much delayed by covid and because they stupidly knocked off Bond in the last one - surely the worst of all of the Craig film and yes, i include Quantum. so they needed to find a new Bond - that always adds a year to a release and also come up with the plan for the future. there shouldn't be such a gap between the next ones. 

 

17 hours ago, 99call said:

It's interesting, usually I'm a Bond fan. But with the UK being in such a bloody awful place at the moment, the idea of a swashbuckling secret agent just seems ridiculous.  

Watching Q parade his latest selection of hi-tech toys, I will just be thinking..."I wish they would just spend that money on the NHS or...the actual real defence budget". 

That said, if the new plot includes Bond garrotting a corrupt group of UK politicians that have sold out our country to a group of oligarchs...I'm here for it all day long. Mind you, I think they have already had that plot many times over.

in which case, you'll be delighted to learn that very little tax is paid in the UK in relation to the 007 films, but they do get many, many millions in tax credits. apparently the financing and income all goes through Delaware and Switzerland. the films have made more than 16 billion pounds. and very little of this has ever been taxed in the UK. but since the film tax credit scheme has come in for culturally British films in 2007, the producers have been given more than 127 million pounds from the public purse. 

the films have greatly contributed to the tourism dollar although the vast majority of that has been tourism elsewhere.

17 hours ago, CaptainQuintero said:

 It's always interesting that each Bond has their own take on the role. I'd like to see this one go much much darker and close to the original Bond, based on Johnson in Nowhere Boy I think he has that range.

 Although I'm not sure studios have the desire to risk the wrath of certain extremely vocal sections of society in going down that route. There's always the risk that it could be another Dalton style Bond.

go darker is what they say they want every time and what they say they are doing. that was especially with Dalton (mind you, spongebob squarepants would have been darker than roger moore). craig is probably the closest to the character fleming created. the new bloke? it will depend on what the family and directors etc want and how they get bout of the mess of killing bond. 

 

18 hours ago, Hammer Smokin' said:

Excellent. I was hearing rumors of Cillian Murphy, and I think he's better than rehashing bond roles.

I get that Bond has a big following (mainly in Great Britain), but it's a pretty played out franchise. 

on the stats, this is completely wrong. in the US, 27% of the population claim to have seen every Bond film. that is incredible for any franchise but especially for one with two dozen films. and a further 47% claim to have seen some if not all of the Bond films. 

no time to die grossed near US$800 million and was the fourth highest film in takings in 2021 (despite being rubbish).

spectre was US$880 million in 2015, 6th highest for the year and second highest Bond film ever. 

skyfall brought in US$1.1 billion in 2012 and was second only to the final harry potter film. 

quantum was a fraction behind casino royale but strangely, was more popular in the US and Canada. 

casino royale was the highest of all time for Bond at the time, US$616 million. it was the tenth highest grossing film of all time at the time of release. 

if that is played out, bring it on. 

[Ken Gargett]

interesting that this went very cold. does not mean that this guy won't be the new Bond but a friend who has way more knowledge on these matters made two points. 

1. over the years, they have never chosen a new Bond without first having chosen the next director for that film. the new director has always had a say. at the moment, there is no new director. 

2. the other and much more interesting point is that they seem to be going extremely slowly here for the next film. i know covid, new Bond and new director are needed. also presumably a script that digs them out of the hole that the last film made (for me, one of the most ordinary of all Bond films).

there has apparently been considerable speculation that the brother and sister team of Wilson and Broccoli is looking to sell the franchise. when i first heard that, i thought no way (still think that), but Michael Wilson is well in his 80s and Broccoli is mid 60s, so neither that young. she could obviously go on for a while. they have kids. she has a daughter who has dabbled in a couple of alternative films (hardly the background for running these studios) and he has two sons, both involved but in rather minor ways, one more into the music than production. i gather that when Broccoli showed an interest, she was immersed very heavily into the entire process to make certain she could take over. it seems that this is not happening with this generation. who knows if that is their choice or if the parents don't want them too involved or don't think them up to it. but if they were taking over, you'd think they would have had much more involvement. 

if the studio is sold, that would mean all bets off completely, i would think. 

of course, having posted this, i now expect that the new bloke will be confirmed in the next day or two. 

[CaptainQuintero]

20 minutes ago, Ken Gargett said:

interesting that this went very cold. does not mean that this guy won't be the new Bond but a friend who has way more knowledge on these matters made two points. 

1. over the years, they have never chosen a new Bond without first having chosen the next director for that film. the new director has always had a say. at the moment, there is no new director. 

2. the other and much more interesting point is that they seem to be going extremely slowly here for the next film. i know covid, new Bond and new director are needed. also presumably a script that digs them out of the hole that the last film made (for me, one of the most ordinary of all Bond films).

there has apparently been considerable speculation that the brother and sister team of Wilson and Broccoli is looking to sell the franchise. when i first heard that, i thought no way (still think that), but Michael Wilson is well in his 80s and Broccoli is mid 60s, so neither that young. she could obviously go on for a while. they have kids. she has a daughter who has dabbled in a couple of alternative films (hardly the background for running these studios) and he has two sons, both involved but in rather minor ways, one more into the music than production. i gather that when Broccoli showed an interest, she was immersed very heavily into the entire process to make certain she could take over. it seems that this is not happening with this generation. who knows if that is their choice or if the parents don't want them too involved or don't think them up to it. but if they were taking over, you'd think they would have had much more involvement. 

if the studio is sold, that would mean all bets off completely, i would think. 

of course, having posted this, i now expect that the new bloke will be confirmed in the next day or two. 

How would have you ended Craig's run?

I think Skyfall was the right ending to call it; great film, lots of nods back to previous films, the end of M's story too. Even without any changes that film felt like the end of the character arc to me, nothing needed changing for it to be Craig's last 

[Ken Gargett]

9 minutes ago, CaptainQuintero said:

How would have you ended Craig's run?

I think Skyfall was the right ending to call it; great film, lots of nods back to previous films, the end of M's story too. Even without any changes that film felt like the end of the character arc to me, nothing needed changing for it to be Craig's last 

skyfall was a cracker and that could have been a good end. it and casino royale were, for me, by far the best in the craig collection. spectre was pretty good but took them off in a way that they needed a finish and i think they completely cocked it up. giving bond the kid, knocking him off, muddling the use of '007'. and for me, madeline swann was one of the least of all bond women. for me, it was so utterly implausible that she would be the one he'd choose. especially as in spectre, they spent something like 36 hours detesting each other, she especially detesting him, and then without any genuine reason why, it is happily ever after. what a crock. 

i think you are right, had craig walked after skyfall, he might have an even higher reputation for it. though i i guess not many of us would leave tens of millions on the table. 

[CaptainQuintero]

2 hours ago, Ken Gargett said:

skyfall was a cracker and that could have been a good end. it and casino royale were, for me, by far the best in the craig collection. spectre was pretty good but took them off in a way that they needed a finish and i think they completely cocked it up. giving bond the kid, knocking him off, muddling the use of '007'. and for me, madeline swann was one of the least of all bond women. for me, it was so utterly implausible that she would be the one he'd choose. especially as in spectre, they spent something like 36 hours detesting each other, she especially detesting him, and then without any genuine reason why, it is happily ever after. what a crock. 

i think you are right, had craig walked after skyfall, he might have an even higher reputation for it. though i i guess not many of us would leave tens of millions on the table. 

I honest to God can't even remember what his wife looks like, and I forgot they gave him a kid until you mentioned it. But I can remember the haunting childhood home in Skyfall, the loss of a pseudo mother in M, the burning down of the home and everything coming to an end. But yes, a hefty cheque will have been a motivation like no other, especially when you've been type cast almost to Daniel Radcliffe levels now

[Bill Hayes]

On 3/20/2024 at 2:47 PM, Ken Gargett said:

i think i need to see that film. loved the book. have not seen this bloke in anything as far as i know. 

Is that Cillian Murphy you're speaking of here? Peaky Blinders is a ripper series. He was also Oppenheimer.

I've also been watching the 'Guy Ritchie' Series 'The Gentlemen' which is a spin off from the movie. I'm warming to the lead character. Not sure he has the extra 'it' factor but he is very Bond like. Great voice too which is important to carry the role IMHO.

[Ken Gargett]

19 minutes ago, Bill Hayes said:

Is that Cillian Murphy you're speaking of here? Peaky Blinders is a ripper series. He was also Oppenheimer.

I've also been watching the 'Guy Ritchie' Series 'The Gentlemen' which is a spin off from the movie. I'm warming to the lead character. Not sure he has the extra 'it' factor but he is very Bond like. Great voice too which is important to carry the role IMHO.

no Bill, talking about this ATJ bloke. i gather he was in bullet train. still not seen it but it is a terrific book. 

cillian murphy i know and peaky blinders. terrific show. and of course Oppenheimer. but our friend above who said forget anyone over 40 is spot on. i think murphy is pushing 50. i am as much chance as him. he'd make a great bond villain though. 

[Fuzz]

1 hour ago, CaptainQuintero said:

I honest to God can't even remember what his wife looks like, and I forgot they gave him a kid until you mentioned it. But I can remember the haunting childhood home in Skyfall, the loss of a pseudo mother in M, the burning down of the home and everything coming to an end. But yes, a hefty cheque will have been a motivation like no other, especially when you've been type cast almost to Daniel Radcliffe levels now

Daniel Radcliffe isn't type cast. He chooses to do those weird Indie films like Guns Akimbo or Swiss Army Man. The dude makes enough money from HP, he never has to work again.

Does this look like a type cast role?

[Ken Gargett]

8 hours ago, Fuzz said:

Daniel Radcliffe isn't type cast. He chooses to do those weird Indie films like Guns Akimbo or Swiss Army Man. The dude makes enough money from HP, he never has to work again.

fuzz, that is not from a film. just going out to collect the newspaper in the morning. 

[CaptainQuintero]

8 hours ago, Fuzz said:

Daniel Radcliffe isn't type cast. He chooses to do those weird Indie films like Guns Akimbo or Swiss Army Man. The dude makes enough money from HP, he never has to work again.

He still looks like Harry Potter on his 3rd divorce!