Fidel signed box.

[El Presidente]

 

Hmmmmmmmm       

 

Fidel Castro Signed Cigar Box

$700Starting Bid

 

[Chas.Alpha]

Ummm... It was so nice of Fidel to sign a box that came from... Oh, never mind.

[ha_banos]

Maybe he signed it for his best mate Boris.

[cigcars]

      *Despite this maybe getting me on the sh#t list of most folks, I love Fidel Castro...it's been ascertained that he was more a Jesuit than a Communist (which he declared himself only to get the protection of the Soviet Union because the United States was constantly trying to kill him) for political reasons, I admire the man greatly. But the ONLY way I'd pay that much for a Cuban cigar box with his signature would be if the cigars were still in the box.

[NSXCIGAR]

It's a Romeos No. 3--actually more valuable without the cigars! 

[BrightonCorgi]

12 hours ago, cigcars said:

      *Despite this maybe getting me on the sh#t list of most folks, I love Fidel Castro...it's been ascertained that he was more a Jesuit than a Communist (which he declared himself only to get the protection of the Soviet Union because the United States was constantly trying to kill him) for political reasons, I admire the man greatly. But the ONLY way I'd pay that much for a Cuban cigar box with his signature would be if the cigars were still in the box.

If a politicians success (in their minds) is how much power they have and how long this stay in power; Fidel was quite successful.

[Kitchen]

13 hours ago, cigcars said:

      *Despite this maybe getting me on the sh#t list of most folks, I love Fidel Castro...it's been ascertained that he was more a Jesuit than a Communist (which he declared himself only to get the protection of the Soviet Union because the United States was constantly trying to kill him) for political reasons, I admire the man greatly. But the ONLY way I'd pay that much for a Cuban cigar box with his signature would be if the cigars were still in the box.

I feel the same way about mob bosses.  After all it's not them pulling the trigger or committing the crime, they just collect a fair percentage for the pizzo they provide.  Can we really blame them for how the money was made?  Some may argue yes, including the federal government, but that just goes to show how righteous they actually are.  

[NSXCIGAR]

3 hours ago, BrightonCorgi said:

If a politicians success (in their minds) is how much power they have and how long this stay in power; Fidel was quite successful.

Seems to be more the rule and less the exception with dictators. Castro, Mao, Stalin, Ceausescu, Kim, Qaddafi, Saddam, Assad and many more were/are all in power a very long time. Only a few like Pol Pot and Papadopoulos flamed out relatively quickly. 

As far as what constitutes "political success" I guess you're right. I'm sure all of them thought they were great guys on their deathbed. 

I was amused driving by the museum complex for Fidel last week. My friend told me Fidel explicitly had said he wanted no monuments to himself after his death, but of course "the people" (who are in no way involved) insisted on some type of tribute. I ask, what is more egotistical--a statue or two or an entire 4-acre museum dedicated to you? 

 

21 hours ago, Chas.Alpha said:

Ummm... It was so nice of Fidel to sign a box that came from... Oh, never mind.

If you're referring to the box being EMS and needing to have been brought back to Cuba from the UK, yes, that's interesting. And of all cigars, Romeo No. 3? The box should have a story and some provenance. I would want to hear it. 

[MrBirdman]

13 hours ago, Psiman said:

How much would a Stalin, Mao, Hitler

I imagine Hitler’s might be the most valuable, if only because he loathed smoking.

 

47 minutes ago, NSXCIGAR said:

The box should have a story and some provenance. I would want to hear it. 

Exactly - I would only trust a box like this with clear provenance to either a legit auction (like at the Festival) or a merchant of repute who got it first-hand. Signatures aren’t much harder to fake than cigars by someone with the skill. There’s a huge memorabilia market for signatures and plenty of fakers there too. 

You could also pay for authentification, though it may not be worth it for a $700 value. 

[ha_banos]

18 hours ago, cigcars said:

      *Despite this maybe getting me on the sh#t list of most folks, I love Fidel Castro...it's been ascertained that he was more a Jesuit than a Communist (which he declared himself only to get the protection of the Soviet Union because the United States was constantly trying to kill him) for political reasons, I admire the man greatly. But the ONLY way I'd pay that much for a Cuban cigar box with his signature would be if the cigars were still in the box.

The common public opinion is often based on superficial surface information. Just don't follow, research, question, wonder.

[GoodStix]

17 hours ago, Psiman said:

Stalin, Mao, Hitler or Churchill... they are all the same person basically

I don't want an argument, but I can't remain totally silent.  Please do not lump Churchill in with that lot.

[Ken Gargett]

Just now, GoodStix said:

I don't want an argument, but I can't remain totally silent.  Please do not lump Churchill in with that lot.

may i 100% agree (and hopefully this is mild enough not to be deleted). 

[Hammer Smokin']

Psiman makes a lot of posts that appear to be an attempt to get a rise. 

likely a trout fisherman

[El Presidente]

2 minutes ago, Ken Gargett said:

may i 100% agree (and hopefully this is mild enough not to be deleted). 

.......you could learn a thing or three from GoodStix 

[El Presidente]

Just now, Hammer Smokin' said:

Psiman makes a lot of posts that appear to be an attempt to get a rise. 

likely a trout fisherman

...stupid trout 

[Ken Gargett]

Just now, El Presidente said:

.......you could learn a thing or three from GoodStix 

i have never doubted that i could learn a great deal from most people. 

[Kitchen]

25 minutes ago, Ken Gargett said:

i have never doubted that i could learn a great deal from most people. 

Always got to respect a man with this much faith in humanity.  

[Ken Gargett]

Just now, Kitchen said:

Always got to respect a man with this much faith in humanity.  

oh, if only that were true. to be honest, i was thinking that pretty much everything i learn is what not to do. 

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On 4/18/2022 at 3:23 AM, Psiman said:

How much would a Stalin, Mao, Hitler or Churchill signed box sell for considering they are all the same person basically ?

Interesting one-liner, would you mind elaborating on your idea to ensure your comment is not misconstrued? Based on historical evidence, you run the risk of being lumped together with four other people by a random troll...

[BrightonCorgi]

On 4/19/2022 at 5:39 AM, NSXCIGAR said:

If you're referring to the box being EMS and needing to have been brought back to Cuba from the UK, yes, that's interesting. And of all cigars, Romeo No. 3? The box should have a story and some provenance. I would want to hear it. 

It's an assumption the box was signed in Cuba.  Who knows where he may have signed it or on what pretense?  You'd think it would be Cohibas if Fidel signed it in Cuba as a gift. 

 

9 hours ago, Jeanff said:

Interesting one-liner, would you mind elaborating on you idea to ensure your comment is not misconstrued; based on historical evidence, you run the risk of being lumped with four other people by a random troll...

It is pretty loose with the words to put Churchill in that same group.  How about add Jesus and George Washington to round it off?

[Hammer Smokin']

ok, lets hear some specifics that are comparable?

especially to Hitler.

prove you are not trolling. 

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24 minutes ago, Hammer Smokin' said:

ok, lets hear some specifics that are comparable?

especially to Hitler.

prove you are not trolling. 

Maybe it's a reference to their similar hairstyles 😂

[Kaptain Karl]

On 4/18/2022 at 12:23 AM, Psiman said:

How much would a Stalin, Mao, Hitler or Churchill signed box sell for considering they are all the same person basically ?

Churchill?! The man that saved liberty? Are you high? The reason I'm living today is because of Churchill. My grandfather would have been murdered at the death camps like the Jewish half of his family if it wasnt for him. There's no logic nor facts to back up what you said. The Bangladesh famine conspiracy that it was Churchill who decided to create a famine has been disproven again and again. Maybe blame Hitler and Tojo for starting wars of conquests that would disrupt global supply and food chains?  

[Hammer Smokin']

notice we haven't had a response... yet.

[NSXCIGAR]

8 hours ago, BrightonCorgi said:

It's an assumption the box was signed in Cuba.  Who knows where he may have signed it or on what pretense?  You'd think it would be Cohibas if Fidel signed it in Cuba as a gift. 

I would assume so as well and agree the choice of cigars is odd. Fidel didn't make too many state visits after 1994. I would have to do a deep dive to see if he even ever traveled to western Europe in that time. No record of it on a cursory search.

I agree, a H & F box of Romeo No. 3 signed by Fidel in the HSA era is a real enigma that should have quite a story if genuine. No story, no dice. 

 

8 hours ago, BrightonCorgi said:

How about add Jesus

I know, they're trying to have us believe that guy never masturbated? Please.To the top of the list he goes!