Great Factory Video…La Corona?

[Dude]

 

[NSXCIGAR]

"Temporary" home of Partagas

[Bagman]

I really love that no music was added.  Made it more authentic. 

Partagas factory makes 80 boxes a day? That can't be right though.

[El Presidente]

22 minutes ago, Monterey said:

Partagas factory makes 80 boxes a day? That can't be write though.

 

well....it would explain the shortage 

[Tstew75]

25 minutes ago, Monterey said:

I really love that no music was added.  Made it more authentic. 

Partagas factory makes 80 boxes a day? That can't be right though.

The lady was saying SHE packs 80 boxes a day. That's a little more believable lol

[cgoodrich]

Just watched, awesome video. @Monterey Madilyn said she boxes 80 a day, not the whole factory. And that is after working 3 hrs sorting for the boxing. Just think, if there are 10 people sorting and boxing, and they averaged the same as her, that would be 800/day.

Thank you @Dude!!!

[LordAnubis]

That is an awesome video! Thanks for sharing!

[SCgarman]

1 hour ago, Tstew75 said:

The lady was saying SHE packs 80 boxes a day. That's a little more believable lol

The strange thing is after she boxes the "unbanded" cigars, then they go to another place where they are unboxed, bands glued on and then back into the box! 

[Tstew75]

Just now, NYgarman said:

The strange thing is after she boxes the "unbanded" cigars, then they go to another place where they are unboxed, bands glued on and then back into the box! 

Efficiency doesn't seem to be Cuba's strong suit.

[Ryan]

8 hours ago, NYgarman said:

The strange thing is after she boxes the "unbanded" cigars, then they go to another place where they are unboxed, bands glued on and then back into the box! 

That's how it has always been done. The cigars are sorted by colour for a box and then sorted by colour again by a colour-sorter for those cigars in a box. darker to lighter, left to right.

It is not the job of the person applying the bands to sort the colours, though that person (I have only ever seen women applying bands) also does one of the last steps in quality control. She will turn any cigars upside-down in a box that show any damage or don't pass muster for any other reason.

So the person applying the bands takes the cigars out of the box, inspects them, applies the bands and puts them back, in the same order, one by one. It is quite a good system as a mixture of efficiency and quality control.  

[karp]

Great video - thanks for sharing! The tobacco leaf and the culebras look so pliable, must be fairly humid when they roll it. 

[Bagman]

12 hours ago, Tstew75 said:

The lady was saying SHE packs 80 boxes a day. That's a little more believable lol

 

12 hours ago, cgoodrich said:

Just watched, awesome video. @Monterey Madilyn said she boxes 80 a day, not the whole factory. And that is after working 3 hrs sorting for the boxing. Just think, if there are 10 people sorting and boxing, and they averaged the same as her, that would be 800/day.

Thank you @Dude!!!

I'm sure that is what is meant.  But here is the screen shot.  2,300 cigars made in a day?  She doesn't make 2,300 cigars in a day. the factory does.   2,300 = 92 boxes.  Okay, she says she does 80.  So everyone else does the other 12 boxes??  Something is just off.

 

[OrangePaw]

Enjoyed watching the video, thanks Dude.

[Corylax18]

8 hours ago, karp said:

Great video - thanks for sharing! The tobacco leaf and the culebras look so pliable, must be fairly humid when they roll it. 

Yes. Cuba has a very Humid Climate in general. I've seen many rollers actaully spray or rub some distilled water on the wrapper leaves to make sure they're extra pliable. Its a great way to burn some time while the unwrapped cigars sit in the mold. The finished cigars are then wrapped in news paper to help absorb some of the extra moisture. I have some videos/photos at home, but I'm travelling right now, so I cant upload them. Wrapper leaf in particular is extremely odd to feel for the first time. Its like a bats wing, thin, smooth, and very flexible/pliable. 

 

7 hours ago, Monterey said:

 

I'm sure that is what is meant.  But here is the screen shot.  2,300 cigars made in a day?  She doesn't make 2,300 cigars in a day. the factory does.   2,300 = 92 boxes.  Okay, she says she does 80.  So everyone else does the other 12 boxes??  Something is just off.

 

There where quite a few things that got "lost in translation" but its still a very cool video.  For example he says the cigars only need to sit in the molds for 1-2 minutes. even when a farm roller is rolling for a busload of tourists they keep them in the molds longer than that. 45min to 2 hours is always what I've been told. 

[SCgarman]

3 hours ago, Ryan said:

That's how it has always been done. The cigars are sorted by colour for a box and then sorted by colour again by a colour-sorter for those cigars in a box. darker to lighter, left to right.

It is not the job of the person applying the bands to sort the colours, though that person (I have only ever seen women applying bands) also does one of the last steps in quality control. She will turn any cigars upside-down in a box that show any damage or don't pass muster for any other reason.

So the person applying the bands takes the cigars out of the box, inspects them, applies the bands and puts them back, in the same order, one by one. It is quite a good system as a mixture of efficiency and quality control.  

Hamlet was telling me the advantage the non Cuban manufacturers have over the traditional Cuban method in Havana is team rolling. The rollers in Havana make each cigar in it's entirety. One roller makes the bunch, the binder, the wrapper. With the factory that makes Hamlet cigars rollers are in teams of two. One roller bunches and rolls the binder, then the cigar goes to another roller who strictly applies the wrapper. Apparently this duo can produce many more cigars. No right or wrong either way. Just different methods of production. 

[Ryan]

32 minutes ago, NYgarman said:

Hamlet was telling me the advantage the non Cuban manufacturers have over the traditional Cuban method in Havana is team rolling. The rollers in Havana make each cigar in it's entirety. One roller makes the bunch, the binder, the wrapper. With the factory that makes Hamlet cigars rollers are in teams of two. One roller bunches and rolls the binder, then the cigar goes to another roller who strictly applies the wrapper. Apparently this duo can produce many more cigars. No right or wrong either way. Just different methods of production. 

The same roller in Cuba does roll the filler, binder and then apply the wrapper. I've never seen it any other way there. I have seen lots of video from other cigar rolling countries where a different roller applies the wrapper. It probably is more efficient, easier to get into a "rhythm". Plus countries other than Cuba often use those hand-operated cigar rolling machines, or leather mats, to bunch the filler and binder, so applying the wrapper requires more skill. I've never seen those machines in use in Cuba.

[rjake100]

I love the 7:45 mark when she grabs 11 cigars at once and effortlessly puts them in the box.

[Fezztone]

Thanks for sharing! Those Culebras must be close to wet to twist like that,

[Ryan]

For the culebra cigars in the video you can see they keep them coved with loose damp tobacco to make sure they stay extra wet and pliable. The wrappers would crack immediately on any cigars that aren't very wet when they are being braided into culebras.

El Laguito roller and, at the time, a director in El Laguito, Berta Corzo, came to Dublin in 2009 and 2010 to roll cigars. This is her rolling a culebra. 

 

[Corylax18]

25 minutes ago, Ryan said:

For the culebra cigars in the video you can see they keep them coved with loose damp tobacco to make sure they stay extra wet and pliable. The wrappers would crack immediately on any cigars that aren't very wet when they are being braided into culebras.

El Laguito roller and, at the time, a director in El Laguito, Berta Corzo, came to Dublin in 2009 and 2010 to roll cigars. This is her rolling a culebra. 

 

I love watching cigars being rolled. Very Cathartic. She is part magician, part artisan. Thanks for posting. 

[cgoodrich]

10 hours ago, Monterey said:

 

I'm sure that is what is meant.  But here is the screen shot.  2,300 cigars made in a day?  She doesn't make 2,300 cigars in a day. the factory does.   2,300 = 92 boxes.  Okay, she says she does 80.  So everyone else does the other 12 boxes??  Something is just off.

 

You’re absolutely correct. I’m wondering if 2,300 is wrong (whether she’s wrong, or the text was wrong…). Can’t believe the Partagas factory only rolls 2,300 total in a day.