Another 5 years of Tory rule in the UK

[99call]

I'm a reasonable voter.  I cannot stand Jeremy Corbyn.............but Jesus.....H'd.....Christ!!! another 5 yrs of heartless Tory rule.     Get your cyanide capsules at the ready,  its going to be a rough ride!.     Absolutely gutted.  what a terrible mess.    Look forward to more kids sleeping on hospital floors, homeless etc      I despair with my fellow man, this is the era of Gordon Gekko........."greed is good"

[SenorPerfecto]

It’s a worldwide epidemic.

 

And things haven’t even gotten bad yet for the developed world. With climate change and the coming famine and Water Wars and increased immigration from low-lying countries and war-torn regions, and the income inequality that increases with these regimes... wait til the chickens come to roost.

[99call]

Just now, SenorPerfecto said:

It’s a worldwide epidemic.

 

And things haven’t even gotten bad yet for the developed world. With climate change and the coming famine and Water Wars and increased immigration from low-lying countries and war-torn regions, and the income inequality that increases with these regimes... wait til the chickens come to roost.

I'd settle for just being decent human beings......but it turns out that it's beyond most

[dgixxer252525]

Move to Cuba or Venezuela. Everyone’s equal...

 

problem with Cuba might be global warming though. It will probably be totally under water in a couple years...

[Corylax18]

14 minutes ago, dgixxer252525 said:

Move to Cuba or Venezuela. Everyone’s equal...

 

problem with Cuba might be global warming though. It will probably be totally under water in a couple years...

There has to be something in between though. I don't understand why the answer to bad ideas has become even worse ideas. Every modern governmental system is perfect on paper. The problem is human beings. The problem is always human beings. 

[El Presidente]

No matter which democratic  country

......you get the government you deserve ?

[SenorPerfecto]

5 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

No matter which democratic  country

......you get the government you deserve ?

Or at least, we all get the government that some deserve.

[Meklown]

4 minutes ago, SenorPerfecto said:

Or at least, we all get the government that some deserve.

You get the government most deserve

[99call]

1 minute ago, El Presidente said:

No matter which democratic  country

......you get the government you deserve ?

Struggle to agree with this.   In years past, parties would stand for something, and people would vote for it.  Under that model, yes, people deserved the mess they chose to elect.     

In the modern era,   Rasputin like characters, like Dominic Cummings have used the Edward Bernays model. i.e sell people a lie.  create fake NHS leaflets, use social media to profile people without their knowledge, Cambridge Analytica etc etc.      I will respectfully disagree, I think these people are repulsive.   nobody deserves them

[amberleaf]

On the bright side, the pound is up over 2.5% vs USD. That of course, means cheaper cigars from our host.

 

Every cloud..

 

[El Presidente]

1 minute ago, FatherOfPugs said:

I love these threads!

We are waiting to see who is going on a forum  holiday first. 

[Meklown]

I think this paragraph from BBC summarises everything up quite well - 

"In one of the first seats to declare, the Conservatives took Blyth Valley, the first time the former mining area, which voted Leave in the EU referendum, will have a Conservative MP."

[Akela3rd]

No matter which democratic  country

......you get the government you deserve 

The democratic process has unfortunately proved to be flawed by being manipulated. You get the government that works the system best, uses the media, lies best and has the biggest balls. The truth has become irrelevant, the vote and the win are all that matter.

All parties now do it, in the UK the Tories are much better at it than the others.

 

Sent from 47171 Lempo 

 

 

 

[bluepeak21]

This election brings to mind one of my favorite H.L. Mencken quotes: "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

[Meklown]

49 minutes ago, db13 said:

But we are seeing the same playbook and manipulation of media/false propaganda/lies/fear mongering/xenophobia.

Other than xenophobia, I struggle to think of any political party (democratic or otherwise) in the world that has a manifesto that doesn't include any of the above. The proliferation of social media has made the spread of FAKE NEWS even harder to control. Unfortunately a majority of people in the world do not do the proper fact-checking before spreading sensationalist news forward.

[Zigatoh]

The problem with democracy in this case is that you're voting between two groups of arse holes, the best you can do is try and work out which is the lesser of two arse holes based on the guff they spew out. 

[Akela3rd]

The problem with democracy in this case is that you're voting between two groups of arse holes, the best you can do is try and work out which is the lesser of two arse holes based on the guff they spew out. 

A concise and accurate summation. Thank you Sir!

Sent from 47171 Lempo 

[Nino]

Might be another 5 years of Tory rule for England & Wales - I see Scotland out of the UK next few years....

[MPS]

Always happy to see antisemitism defeated! 

[ayepatz]

31 minutes ago, nino said:

Might be another 5 years of Tory rule for England & Wales - I see Scotland out of the UK next few years....

13 more seats for the SNP makes that a strong possibility. 
The first reactions from the Tories indicate that they will vehemently oppose a second Independence referendum. Not good at all.

[kwsaw63]

My rather simplistic of global politics is that ever increasing income inequality has created the craziness we are currently seeing. The rich have so much money that they don’t know what to do with it. Private equity, family offices, etc. are throwing money at even marginal investment opportunities. On the other hand we have a deluge of economic migrants and people struggling to make ends meet. Even in so called communist China the ranks of the super rich continue to grow in leaps and bounds. 

Brexit was caused by the have nots mistakenly blaming the EU for their woes and ironically voting in the same politicians who caused the income inequality that led them to vote for Brexit in the first place. 

 

[BrightonCorgi]

How is this thread gone this far when the same thread that is US-centric is stopped?

[Nino]

1 hour ago, ayepatz said:

13 more seats for the SNP makes that a strong possibility. 
The first reactions from the Tories indicate that they will vehemently oppose a second Independence referendum. Not good at all.

Saw the statement by Nicola Sturgeon today and she intends to legally fight for the Scottish parliament's right to hold a second Indepence referendum. So, it might be interesting ...

41 minutes ago, kwsaw63 said:

Brexit was caused by the have nots mistakenly blaming the EU for their woes and ironically voting in the same politicians who caused the income inequality that led them to vote for Brexit in the first place. 

 

Excellent sum-up of the Brexit mess !

[JoeyBones777]

12 minutes ago, BrightonCorgi said:

How is this thread gone this far when the same thread that is US-centric is stopped?

I think the rule is US politics are taboo but all other politics are ok...if I'm not mistaken. 

[ayepatz]

8 minutes ago, JoeyBones777 said:

I think the rule is US politics are taboo but all other politics are ok...if I'm not mistaken. 

You are not mistaken.