JamesKPolkEsq Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 There appears to be an outbreak of politicians in the United Kingdom having milkshakes thrown on them as a form of protest. Hilarious or harmful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shippers Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 It isn't a great thing. To disagree with someones politics is one thing but we shouldn't be there throwing stuff at them. It sets an example that spills into other parts of society. Today a teller was apparently also "milkshaked". Pretty sad really. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Islandboy Posted May 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2019 Seems tough to control. If milkshakes are outlawed, then society will suffer. And only outlaws will have milkshakes. Or so I’m told. 4 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CaptainQuintero Posted May 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2019 Just a reflection of our society, many people have lost the ability/desire to interact with people with different opinions, or have the respect to honour someone having a different view. These people live in echo chambers and the world of self, so when someone has as different view to them they don't see a problem with attacking them verbally/physically. The fact that one of our members of parliament was shot dead for hey political views seems utterly lost on them. We actually have newspapers here saying that the "milkshaking" is fine and harmless. Ironically I'm reasonably fine with someone chucking an egg at a politician once in a while. I don't know if this makes me a hypocrite, probably, but an egg on a jacket seems in the realm of shaving foam pie. A litre of milkshake seems to be straying into that territory where in a snowball fight there was always one kid who would make a solid ice ball and take it too far. I dunno, it seems to be a step too far and opens up the normalisation of shutting down voices 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby07 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Says more about the thrower than the throwee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grateful13 Posted May 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2019 When violent leftists perpetrate domestic terrorism like this against Brexit supporters, media and corporations like Burger King support it and cheer it on. And make no mistake, violence to push political aims is in fact the definition of terrorism. We all know the reaction would be entirely different if it was the left getting violently attacked. There would have already been swift crackdowns and the media would be melting down blaming Farage or Tommy Robinson for incitement. We’ve seen the same thing in America with the media promoting ANTIFA domestic terrorism for the last 3 years. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackupster Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 When violent right wing's attack they use assault rifles (see Christchurch and dozens of others in the US) and kill dozens in minutes. Leaving scores of dead people not a dry cleaning bill. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post El Presidente Posted May 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2019 Bring back the stocks! Perpetrator gets put in stocks in the city square where passing pedestrians can throw free milkshakes at them during a 3 hour window. Same goes for egg throwers 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99call Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Heres a point to think on. People like Nigel Farage and Steve Banon are NOT politicians!!! they are single issue individuals trying to stir up racist sentiment and hate. Trying to radicalise and weaponise poor communities, pouring poison in their ears and telling them all their woes are the fault of immigrants. Yes throwing milkshakes on innocent old men is terrible. BUT...... if that innocent old man was supporting the National front or the Brown shirts I'd gladly throw a 1000 milkshakes in his face. - Becoming intolerant of opposing, but valid opinion, is plain and simple hate - Opposing those who seek to sow hate and division (like the brownshirts) should be met with any means necessary to stop them. I don't support people throwing milkshakes on people, but it's nothing compared to what happens if you don't stop these people at source. It's there in the pages of history as plain as day 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post El Presidente Posted May 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2019 1 minute ago, 99call said: Heres a point to think on. People like Nigel Farage and Steve Banon are NOT politicians!!! they are single issue individuals trying to stir up racist sentiment and hate. Trying to radicalise and weaponise poor communities, pouring poison in their ears and telling them all their woes are the fault of immigrants. Yes throwing milkshakes on innocent old men is terrible. BUT...... if that innocent old man was supporting the National front or the Brown shirts I'd gladly throw a 1000 milkshakes in his face. - Becoming intolerant of opposing, but valid opinion, is plain and simple hate - Opposing those who seek to sow hate and division (like the brownshirts) should be met with any means necessary to stop them. I don't support people throwing milkshakes on people, but it's nothing compared to what happens if you don't stop these people at source. It's there in the pages of history as plain as day At no point can physical assault become acceptable in a society that aspires to be civilised. 8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grateful13 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, 99call said: Heres a point to think on. People like Nigel Farage and Steve Banon are NOT politicians!!! they are single issue individuals trying to stir up racist sentiment and hate. Trying to radicalise and weaponise poor communities, pouring poison in their ears and telling them all their woes are the fault of immigrants. Yes throwing milkshakes on innocent old men is terrible. BUT...... if that innocent old man was supporting the National front or the Brown shirts I'd gladly throw a 1000 milkshakes in his face. - Becoming intolerant of opposing, but valid opinion, is plain and simple hate - Opposing those who seek to sow hate and division (like the brownshirts) should be met with any means necessary to stop them. I don't support people throwing milkshakes on people, but it's nothing compared to what happens if you don't stop these people at source. It's there in the pages of history as plain as day You should be honest and just come out and say straight up that you think violence is okay as long as it’s in pursuit of the far left agenda. That’s quite literally what you are saying And look at what I bolded. Lol zero self awareness. You clearly have a lot of hate in your heart. Just be honest. You think any opinion besides the far left orthodoxy of the day is hate. And that anyone who doesn’t fall in line with it must be a Nazi Brownshirt and should be met with hate, violence, or worse. Violence is never acceptable. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99call Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Just now, El Presidente said: At no point can physical assault become acceptable in a society that aspires to be civilised. The Brownshirts began as a non violent movement, that insisted the poverty and ills of the German people was caused by the Political elite and "non-Germans" . The Brown shirt went un-opposed and turned into the Nazi party. So to follow your rule of thumb... how back in the days of the Brownshirts do you maintain civilised behaviour as seek to stop them?. Neville Chamberlian was very civilised with them.....didn't work out too well for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 I had not realised that the "left" had lost the ability to articulate and carry an argument. If they have, I respectfully suggest that the answer is not in launching dairy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 I am all for spirited debate. However, personal attacks will not be permitted. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jackupster Posted May 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2019 It amazes me sometimes how far we have come as a species! Space travel, medicine, technology etc. Yet we we still have bigots, racists and homophobes and the likes around the globe. In some ways we are still in the dark ages! 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99call Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, El Presidente said: I had not realised that the "left" had lost the ability to articulate and carry an argument. If they have, I respectfully suggest that the answer is not in launching dairy. Rob, how is being opposed to racists being on the left? I do not support what they are doing, but is sickens me to see the likes of Nigel Farage and Steve Banon radicalising poor communities and sowing hate. Question....how do you stop these people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luv2fly Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, El Presidente said: personal attacks will not be permitted Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, 99call said: Rob, how is being opposed to racists being on the left? I do not support what they are doing, but is sickens me to see the likes of Nigel Farage and Steve Banon radicalising poor communities and sowing hate. Question....how do you stop these people? "Racist" is a term largely used by the Left to attack the right on immigration policy. No doubt many are...... and no doubt many aren't. How do you stop these people? The tool is democracy coupled with intelligent and articulate argument + a vigilant and vibrant media. Handy is a long term immigration policy that is supported by the majority for the benefit of the country and not merely a plaything of the incumbents ideology. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99call Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, El Presidente said: "Racist" is a term largely used by the Left to attack the right on immigration policy. No doubt many are...... and no doubt many aren't. I can completely agree with this. I would suggest conservative party policy in the UK is a right wing policy, that whilst I may not agree with it, I do not consider racist in any way shape of form. Whereas the Brexit party and UKIP are not right wing parties, they are racist's posing as right wing politicians. This is partly the core of my disgust with the whole thing. I would say exactly the same thing of Jeremy Corbyn, he is a socialist and a communist, and he's effectively using the Labour party as cover. As a labour voter, I cant stand the fact he's taken over the party away from its working class roots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeUgood Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, El Presidente said: Bring back the stocks! Perpetrator gets put in stocks in the city square where passing pedestrians can throw free milkshakes at them during a 3 hour window. Same goes for egg throwers Im just here for the free milkshakes? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, 99call said: I can completely agree with this. I would suggest conservative party policy in the UK is a right wing policy, that whilst I may not agree with it, I do not consider racist in any way shape of form. Whereas the Brexit party and UKIP are not right wing parties, they are racist's posing as right wing politicians. This is partly the core of my disgust with the whole thing. I would say exactly the same thing of Jeremy Corbyn, he is a socialist and a communist, and he's effectively using the Labour party as cover. As a labour voter, I cant stand the fact he's taken over the party away from its working class roots. It is not a uniquely UK thing. The sensible "Centre" has been vacated in many western democracies with the "left' going far left and the "right" far right. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackupster Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, El Presidente said: It is not a uniquely UK thing. The sensible "Centre" has been vacated in many western democracies with the "left' going far left and the "right" far right. That's why I'm a radical moderate! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcarlson Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 57 minutes ago, 99call said: So to follow your rule of thumb... how back in the days of the Brownshirts do you maintain civilised behaviour as seek to stop them?. Vigilant protection of the expression of opposing viewpoints, especially from violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnS Posted May 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2019 For me, this below wasn't that long ago! My how times have changed, and quickly! (P.S. One thing we can all agree on...if you can't appreciate Roland's Sunburst Gibson ES-335 guitar, you can't be helped! ? ?) 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackupster Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, JohnS said: For me, this below wasn't that long ago! My how times have changed, and quickly! Maybe we can solve this with some new wave songs? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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