earthson Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 hours ago, RickHendeson said: Same as my comment re: Bart, above. Are you aware of anywhere he himself states this, unequivocally? Because after a fair amount of research, I have yet to find it. Have you tried, um, contacting him directly? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bartolomeo Posted January 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 hours ago, RickHendeson said: It's interesting you say that. Can you point to a source, anywhere, where he makes that claim unequivocally? Emphasis on the unequivocally. Because I have yet to find a written source, anywhere, that he claims his cigars are Cuban puros. I picked up some Johnny O cigar bundles personally in Habana in November 2014 and handed them out to the FOH gang during our bus trip to the beach, this can be confirmed by many members here. These were/are the same cigars that John mules back to Miami, I believe they were either Sublimes or his 1966 sizes, it was definitely one of the two. John goes to Habana 2-3x a month for family and business reasons. I have met John in person 20+ times. John sells Cuban custom cigars rolled in Cuba from many sources. I am not sure what else I can tell you that hasn't been said already at various sites. Hope this makes sense. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnnyO Posted January 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2018 Oh, newbies, newbies, newbies ya gotta love 'em. This has been hashed and rehashed so many times. I believe most moderators here at FOH (years ago) have already established my sources. If my integrity is your concern checkout Cigarfamily for my references that go 20 years back. You might even take a peek at Cigarpass where Kingantz, Dirty Dave, Mark Twain and others have done reviews of my cigars over the years. Lots of nice pics as well. As mentioned I usually have cigars that will have cosmetic touches on them that are not on standard production cigars; pigtail, shagfoot, barber pole, culebras and cigars that have been out of production for years (Celestiales Finos, Butifarra, RodoIfo). I even have peso cigars from time to time. It might not be your cup of tea but there are a lot more yay's than nay's. For many years other boards that are US based discourage open discussions about cigars origins. As Rob has previously mentioned it is not in everyones interest to keep discussing openly sources as you might effect some livelyhoods on both sides. John 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helix Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Bartolomeo said: I picked up some Johnny O cigar bundles personally in Habana in November 2014 and handed them out to the FOH gang during our bus trip to the beach, this can be confirmed by many members here. These were/are the same cigars that John mules back to Miami, I believe they were either Sublimes or his 1966 sizes, it was definitely one of the two. John goes to Habana 2-3x a month for family and business reasons. I have met John in person 20+ times. John sells Cuban custom cigars rolled in Cuba from many sources. I am not sure what else I can tell you that hasn't been said already at various sites. Hope this makes sense. Yes you handed me one and I loved it ! Thanks again Ryan. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubatabaco Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Well stated Rob and Johnny!I have never been dissatisfied with John's customs, whether in flavor or price. Keep up the good work! Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyO Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Ricky Henderson I will unequivocally post an ad in Granma (with an Emphasis on unequivocally) as to my sources if it will make you unequivocally feel better. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilzc Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 World Famous creamy matcha ice cream 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickHendeson Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 15 hours ago, JohnnyO said: But there is a vast and easily-understood difference between 'sources' and simple country of origin. I'm not talking about sources. I'm talking about country of origin. I'm talking about a simple, six-word statement: "All my cigars are Cuban puros." In the interests of truth, we'll set aside your snarky 'newbies' comment -- for now -- and await your simple statement: "All my Cigars are Cuban puros." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nekhyludov Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 It seems that this thread has drifted into territory that would be better addressed in PMs, rather than in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyO Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 RH....you managed to jack the threads original thought. Then you make it about you. You require everyone to go on the defensive because your "research" (which probably is a lot of hearsay) or you could not be wrong. Your approach kind of reminds me of the little girl from the Willie Wonka chocolate factory: " I want to know now daddy, how the Oompa Loompa's make Johnny-O!'s cigars! Please make them tell me daddy! ". You're 4 for 4 brah, I think you just hit a newbie homerun. Buy some cigars, smoke em, you don't like them move on. Its that easy. John 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finecigar Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 I love your cigars John keep up the great work! You provide a wonderful service to all BOTL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalibratecuba Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 World Famous creamy matcha ice cream Love the pic. Would rather red bean ice cream. Is that at The Social?Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilzc Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Love the pic. Would rather red bean ice cream. Is that at The Social?Sent from my SM-G920F using TapatalkCan't remember. I think t'was Havana Club Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Customsfan Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Thanks John for offering a great product. It’s definitely appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habana Mike Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 On 1/10/2018 at 3:36 PM, RickHendeson said: Same as my comment re: Bart, above. Are you aware of anywhere he himself states this, unequivocally? Because after a fair amount of research, I have yet to find it. Nope.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickHendeson Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 On 1/11/2018 at 4:25 PM, JohnnyO said: RH....you managed to jack the threads original thought. Then you make it about you. You require everyone to go on the defensive because your "research" (which probably is a lot of hearsay) or you could not be wrong. Your approach kind of reminds me of the little girl from the Willie Wonka chocolate factory: " I want to know now daddy, how the Oompa Loompa's make Johnny-O!'s cigars! Please make them tell me daddy! ". You're 4 for 4 brah, I think you just hit a newbie homerun. Buy some cigars, smoke em, you don't like them move on. Its that easy. John Thanks John, but inside all of your invective, I see you still haven't made the simple six word statement: "All my cigars are Cuban puros." You've had several chances to make this simple statement. We should conclude you cannot say this? Please advise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 On 2018-01-10 at 6:56 PM, JohnnyO said: As Rob has previously mentioned it is not in everyones interest to keep discussing openly sources as you might effect some livelyhoods on both sides. There you go re:explanation RickHendeson... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickHendeson Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, Jeanff said: There you go re:explanation RickHendeson... Nah. Read the prior posts. 'Sources' are not being discussed. Only country of origin. There is a clear and easily understood difference between 'sources' and country of origin. Country of origin is discussed 100s of times a day on every cigar board on the web, including this one. "All of my cigars are Cuban puros" reveals no source whatsoever. As is clear on its face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugu Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Not my business here, but just from a general business perspective.... He may have his reasons. That has to be accepted, like it or not. Rick, I'd suggest getting in touch with him personally should he not want (as he is saying) to disclose the requested information on an open forum (keep in mind - if Cuban, just supposed, if Cuban he might be selling embargo goods). If he still refrains from providing you with that info in a direct buyer-seller negotiation situation, and given it is important to you (as it would to me), then either don't buy, or face the risk and still try a selection of his sticks anyway even without knowing. It's all up to you. You're unhappy with the information on origin given? - then don't do business with the man. As long as you are not entering into business with him he's not liable to give you any such information. On the other hand, if he sold you cigars leaving you tacitly in the impression that those sticks were Cuban puros, but can't or isn't willing to confirm, then it is of course not the best business practice, to put it cautiously. My 2cts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy04 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) Ignore this post Edited January 15, 2018 by Andy04 Have received the info I was seeking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickHendeson Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Fugu said: Thanks I'm sure there are all kinds of perspectives and opinions, and/or stories about Mysterious Forces suppressing what can be said. (Embargo goods, you say? Well, welcome to the club.) I'm only interested in facts though, and those directly from the horses' mouth, six simple words: "All my cigars are Cuban puros." Or -- at least, a full and fair opportunity to say the same. Seems like that full and fair opportunity has been given and rejected. At the end of the day, there's only one reason that makes any sense. Cuban puros, they ain't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickEwing Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Would a dead horse’s mouth suffice? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickHendeson Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 3 hours ago, PatrickEwing said: Would a dead horse’s mouth suffice? In place of Thorazine? I have no idea what that means. Can anyone decipher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickEwing Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, RickHendeson said: In place of Thorazine? I have no idea what that means. Can anyone decipher? You asked to hear it out of the horse’s mouth. Since we’re on to cliches, you may say that you’ve beaten this topic, or this horse, to a bloody pulp. It’s becoming clear that you’re not going to get an answer you want, so what’s the sense of continuing to yell at the clouds? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post El Presidente Posted January 15, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2018 I have never heard a complaint about JO. Close mates of mine who know Cuban cigars backwards enjoy JO cigars. If there is an axe to grind, take it to pm. Running a public pinata campaign is not necessary. 7 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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