MooseAMuffin Posted December 17, 2015 Posted December 17, 2015 Since CNN just released that Cuba and the US are agreeing to resume commercial flights, I figured I'd get a head start on gaining as much information as possible before they finally make it legal for us Yanks to travel there! So, to those who have been, what do you recommend we do? Great places to stay? Is all inclusive the best way to go? Or would it be smarter to stay at a hotel? What are the LCDH/shops are best to visit? Best beaches? Best places to smoke? Entertainment? I read about people making friends with certain rollers and getting custom cigars. How does one go about making those connections and getting some customs? What gifts should we bring to give to the LCDH workers/shop keepers to gain trust and extra perks of visiting those shops? What should we avoid? Great places to eat? What factories are best to tour? Sorry for all the questions, I am new to Cubans and this news is very exciting to me! Thanks for any recommendations! Moose 1
rckymtn22 Posted December 17, 2015 Posted December 17, 2015 Lot of the requested information that has been covered in other posts so best suggestion is do some searches.
MooseAMuffin Posted December 17, 2015 Author Posted December 17, 2015 Lot of the requested information that has been covered in other posts so best suggestion is do some searches. Yup, been researching posts alot! Trying to get as much info as possible so I figured I'd post to get some of the latest/newest information possible. Thanks for your suggestion!
Olga Posted December 17, 2015 Posted December 17, 2015 I just posted this link in another thread. I think it might shed some light. http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfeatures/show/id/scheduled-commercial-flights-to-cuba-not-so-fast-18512 1
kuma Posted December 17, 2015 Posted December 17, 2015 Good luck. I'm in no hurry to get there until Cuba comes into the 21st century. I hear the embrago could take up to 5 years to iron out all the problems that have and will surface. I'd rather wait until Cuba becomes like the Bahamas as it relates to us yanks. After a while you don't even know it is there not a big deal. Anyway we have FOH so I'm not sure we / you will do much better aquiring Cubans. I don't know about you but I like having an expert (Rob) choosing for me. The only thing I really would like to try is going to a "La Casa Del Habano" other than that no sweat man.
MooseAMuffin Posted December 17, 2015 Author Posted December 17, 2015 I just posted this link in another thread. I think it might shed some light. http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfeatures/show/id/scheduled-commercial-flights-to-cuba-not-so-fast-18512 Bummer man. I was hoping it meant a little more than that. Guess my planning phase will last a little longer than originally thought.
Habana Mike Posted December 17, 2015 Posted December 17, 2015 You can book charter flights through OFAC-authorized travel providers today. Here's most of the relevant information for those interested in taking a trip in the near term: https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/Documents/cuba_faqs_new.pdf https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/Documents/guidance_cuba_travel.pdf http://www.lahabana.com/Travel/Useful-information-&-FAQs-Cuba.php?id=US-visitors-to-Cuba-The-Rules#6 1
SCgarman Posted December 17, 2015 Posted December 17, 2015 See Also:Wednesday, November 25, 2015 Vintage Cigar Auction Puts Pre-Embargos On The Block Thursday, November 12, 2015 New Releases From Habanos: What's Out And What's Coming Wednesday, November 4, 2015 Hoyo De Monterrey Le Hoyo De San Juan In A Tube Monday, September 28, 2015 Ten Cuban Cigars to Buy Now Wednesday, September 23, 2015 Cuba's First Partagás Maduro Now In Stores More from Cuba Don't get too excited about the headlines announcing a resumption of commercial air flights between the United States and Cuba. The reports are overstating the facts. The U.S. Department of State did announce today an agreement to resume commercial air flights between Cuba and the United States. But it is a small first step toward the ultimate Civil Aviation Agreement that will govern those flights. The U.S.-Cuba Trade and Economic Council advised "caution" in assuming the commencement of those flights will happen any time soon. The U.S. government statement said a Civil Aviation Arrangement had been reached; essentially, it's an accord to agree that flights should be allowed sometime in the future. It is far short of a Civil Aviation Agreement that will govern those flights. Once a Civil Aviation Agreement is signed, the Department of Transportation will open a 60- to 90-day period when U.S. airlines may submit their proposed routes, according to the U.S.-Cuba Trade and Economic Council. Then, those route requests will still be subject to approval by not only the U.S. government but by the Cuban government, too. There are also outstanding issues dating back to the last Civil Aviation Agreement between the two countries, which was suspended in the early 1960s, according to the U.S.-Cuba Trade and Economic Council. These legacy routes may be subject to claims by the airlines who have acquired their rights through merger or purchase of other airlines during the last 50 years. In addition, under existing travel regulations that limit legal travel to Cuba by American citizens, any commercial air carrier would be charged with determining whether or not the passengers on their flights have U.S. government permission to travel to Cuba. This oversight is currently managed by licensed People-to-People tour operators who use charter companies for their air travel to Cuba. Tourist travel to Cuba by U.S. citizens is still illegal. The Obama Administration is reportedly considering further loosening those regulations to allow travelers to "self-declare" that they are in compliance with all applicable laws, but no regulations have been issued. "No one should be looking to use AmericanAirlines.com to travel to Cuba for New Years Eve," said John Kavulich, president of the U.S.-Cuba Trade and Economic Council, Inc. In other words, the announcement today is a long way from the reality of regularly scheduled flights between the United States and Cuba. 1
Smallclub Posted December 17, 2015 Posted December 17, 2015 I'm in no hurry to get there until Cuba comes into the 21st century. ... I'd rather wait until Cuba becomes like the Bahamas as it relates to us yanks. 3
Jeremy Festa Posted December 17, 2015 Posted December 17, 2015 Good luck. I'm in no hurry to get there until Cuba comes into the 21st century. I hear the embrago could take up to 5 years to iron out all the problems that have and will surface. I'd rather wait until Cuba becomes like the Bahamas as it relates to us yanks. After a while you don't even know it is there not a big deal. Anyway we have FOH so I'm not sure we / you will do much better aquiring Cubans. I don't know about you but I like having an expert (Rob) choosing for me. The only thing I really would like to try is going to a "La Casa Del Habano" other than that no sweat man. OMG funniest post of the year, saved until the last minute! Hang on. Please tell everyone you are joking. It's a humorous post right? Sent from my iPhone 2
MooseAMuffin Posted December 18, 2015 Author Posted December 18, 2015 OMG funniest post of the year, saved until the last minute! Hang on. Please tell everyone you are joking. It's a humorous post right? Sent from my iPhone Lol! I agree...this has got to be a joke.
MooseAMuffin Posted December 18, 2015 Author Posted December 18, 2015 See Also: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 Vintage Cigar Auction Puts Pre-Embargos On The Block Thursday, November 12, 2015 New Releases From Habanos: What's Out And What's Coming Wednesday, November 4, 2015 Hoyo De Monterrey Le Hoyo De San Juan In A Tube Monday, September 28, 2015 Ten Cuban Cigars to Buy Now Wednesday, September 23, 2015 Cuba's First Partagás Maduro Now In Stores More from Cuba Don't get too excited about the headlines announcing a resumption of commercial air flights between the United States and Cuba. The reports are overstating the facts. The U.S. Department of State did announce today an agreement to resume commercial air flights between Cuba and the United States. But it is a small first step toward the ultimate Civil Aviation Agreement that will govern those flights. The U.S.-Cuba Trade and Economic Council advised "caution" in assuming the commencement of those flights will happen any time soon. The U.S. government statement said a Civil Aviation Arrangement had been reached; essentially, it's an accord to agree that flights should be allowed sometime in the future. It is far short of a Civil Aviation Agreement that will govern those flights. Once a Civil Aviation Agreement is signed, the Department of Transportation will open a 60- to 90-day period when U.S. airlines may submit their proposed routes, according to the U.S.-Cuba Trade and Economic Council. Then, those route requests will still be subject to approval by not only the U.S. government but by the Cuban government, too. There are also outstanding issues dating back to the last Civil Aviation Agreement between the two countries, which was suspended in the early 1960s, according to the U.S.-Cuba Trade and Economic Council. These legacy routes may be subject to claims by the airlines who have acquired their rights through merger or purchase of other airlines during the last 50 years. In addition, under existing travel regulations that limit legal travel to Cuba by American citizens, any commercial air carrier would be charged with determining whether or not the passengers on their flights have U.S. government permission to travel to Cuba. This oversight is currently managed by licensed People-to-People tour operators who use charter companies for their air travel to Cuba. Tourist travel to Cuba by U.S. citizens is still illegal. The Obama Administration is reportedly considering further loosening those regulations to allow travelers to "self-declare" that they are in compliance with all applicable laws, but no regulations have been issued. "No one should be looking to use AmericanAirlines.com to travel to Cuba for New Years Eve," said John Kavulich, president of the U.S.-Cuba Trade and Economic Council, Inc. In other words, the announcement today is a long way from the reality of regularly scheduled flights between the United States and Cuba. Thanks for the info, these are awesome! The news about travel for tourists...not so much
brschoppe Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 From what I have seen Cuba Cruise seems to be the best way to visit Cuba and still have a relaxing vacation while being legal under the US standards. Also, it gives you the opportunity to see more of the country than just Havana without having to deal with Cuban infrastructure. http://yourcubacruise.com/your-cuba/us-travelers
MooseAMuffin Posted December 18, 2015 Author Posted December 18, 2015 You can book charter flights through OFAC-authorized travel providers today. Here's most of the relevant information for those interested in taking a trip in the near term: https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/Documents/cuba_faqs_new.pdf https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/Documents/guidance_cuba_travel.pdf http://www.lahabana.com/Travel/Useful-information-&-FAQs-Cuba.php?id=US-visitors-to-Cuba-The-Rules#6 Thanks Mike, this info is perfect!
stogieluver Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 Moose, you can go now. Just have to book through one of the agencies already discussed. My wife and I went in 2012 on a People to People licensed trip, and I wouldn't take a $million for the memories and experience. The poster who said he would rather wait until the country comes into the 21st century...well, I can't begin to explain what a once in a lifetime experience it was to see it BEFORE it comes into the 21st century. That was precisely why we went when we did. Hope I can go back before it changes too much. Look in the "Classic Posts" forum, I believe it is, where there is a long string of posts about going to Cuba. Also, Cigar Aficionado recently had an issue dedicated to Americans tripping to the island with lots of reviews on various hotels, restaurants, etc. 3
helix Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 Good luck. I'm in no hurry to get there until Cuba comes into the 21st century. I hear the embrago could take up to 5 years to iron out all the problems that have and will surface. I'd rather wait until Cuba becomes like the Bahamas as it relates to us yanks. After a while you don't even know it is there not a big deal. Anyway we have FOH so I'm not sure we / you will do much better aquiring Cubans. I don't know about you but I like having an expert (Rob) choosing for me. The only thing I really would like to try is going to a "La Casa Del Habano" other than that no sweat man. "like the Bahamas" surely you jest ......... 1
kuma Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 Well mates don't get your knickers in a bunch to each their own. For the money I'd rather spend it in a place like say Spain where the creature comforts of life (21st century) are in place. Rail, food, hotels, roads, telcom., banking arts, etc, etc, etc,..then to have to worry about these things not being there. Life is short pick wisely and remember "don't follow the wrong god(s) home".
CaptainQuintero Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 I haven't been, but I'm assured that Cuba does already have rail, food, hotels, roads, telecommunications and banking 1
Smallclub Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 For the money I'd rather spend it in a place like say Spain where the creature comforts of life (21st century) are in place. Rail, food, hotels, roads, telcom., banking arts, etc, etc, etc,..then to have to worry about these things not being there. I can't believe I'm reading this on a forum that contains dozens of enthusiastic travel stories in Cuba, including those from our host… You must have a very special conception of "traveling" …
Jeremy Festa Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 I can't believe I'm reading this on a forum that contains dozens of enthusiastic travel stories in Cuba, including those from our host… You must have a very special conception of "traveling" … I travel for the culture but I stay for the amenities Sent from my iPhone
kuma Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 I'll wait for the country to progress a little further before I go. Basic things like calling a hotel and reservering a room, flying there non stop, having a car (from the hotel) waiting to pick me up at the airport to the hotel. The small things in life that matter which I work hard for. Don't need to worry about dumb **** when I'm vacationing to old for that. Nothing personel mate(s) I'm sure it works well for some at the level Cuba is at now but I'll wait until they are a free and open country. I guess all those Cubans that recently have been leaving in droves are doing so because they enjoy the amenities Cuba offers!
Popular Post Habana Mike Posted December 19, 2015 Popular Post Posted December 19, 2015 Yeah, I get it. Wouldn't want the charm of a place spoiled by the occasional inconvenience. That and where would you get a Pumpkin Latte? 5
madandana Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 Yeah, I get it. Wouldn't want the charm of a place spoiled by the occasional inconvenience. That and where would you get a Pumpkin Latte? Thank you for that. I'm buying you a Mojito next Nov. For making my day!
kuma Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 When in Rome do as the saying goes; how about a rum and coke w/lime twist!
Jeremy Festa Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 When in Rome do as the saying goes; how about a rum and coke w/lime twist! Strider, mate, I think everyone is in shock because we work, just as hard as you, and travel, for the culture, photos, experiences, food, wine, beer, music, women (when single) and challenges. The thing about Cuba is it has cigars. I have friends that almost specialize their travel in visiting third world countries. Albeit they have no kids. And I wish I did it more before my kids, and I am fairly well travelled in saying that! This is the real world. Cars and reservations and trains and hotels can suck a big fat one because that is not what life is about. And I have never used this term, but will now as a little reassurance... IMHO But really not, because that should be gospel. Sent from my iPhone 2
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