chuck1rar Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Anyone know of a site which lists worldwide duties and taxes for cigars? There must be a partial list out there.. Thanks 1
Cigar Surgeon Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 This is for Alberta: Cost of Stick A (including shipping) * 1.67 (Federal Tax) = B. B * 1.3 = Taxable price C. C + 103% (Alberta Provincial taxes to a maximum of $6.27) = sales price D. So if we assume a $5 US MSRP on a stick. $5 * 1.67 = $8.35 * 1.3 = $10.86 (taxable price) + 103% ($6.27) = $16.86 (sales price). So receiver owes $11.86 (US dollars mind you) per $5 stick that was just assessed. If the MSRP is $10 then the duties / taxes owing is $17.98. 1
hounser Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 This is for Alberta: Cost of Stick A (including shipping) * 1.67 (Federal Tax) = B. B * 1.3 = Taxable price C. C + 103% (Alberta Provincial taxes to a maximum of $6.27) = sales price D. So if we assume a $5 US MSRP on a stick. $5 * 1.67 = $8.35 * 1.3 = $10.86 (taxable price) + 103% ($6.27) = $16.86 (sales price). So receiver owes $11.86 (US dollars mind you) per $5 stick that was just assessed. If the MSRP is $10 then the duties / taxes owing is $17.98. Oh god, I always know it's that bad but every time I actually see the calculations done it's still hard to stomach.......and it can actually be higher in other provinces
CaptainQuintero Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Generally 455% from landing at the UK docks to hitting the shelves when you add up duties, tax and the H&F markup for being the amazing EMS :| 1
Oscar300 Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Generally 455% from landing at the UK docks to hitting the shelves when you add up duties, tax and the H&F markup for being the amazing EMS :|
Cigar Surgeon Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Oh god, I always know it's that bad but every time I actually see the calculations done it's still hard to stomach.......and it can actually be higher in other provinces And if it's done 'after the fact' they don't always follow that formula. I usually just say rule of thumb is add 327% to the MSRP and that's what you could potentially be paying. None of that takes into account MSRP markup. I recently saw Bolivar Royal Coronas on the shelf for $42. Opus X were $89.
Fosgate Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Generally 455% from landing at the UK docks to hitting the shelves when you add up duties, tax and the H&F markup for being the amazing EMS :| SHEEEEIIT! Almost cheaper to fly to Havana, bring back or mail yourself a few boxes and enjoy some sun while your at it.
Blakes Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 It can depend in the UK as I understand the amount due is based on the weight of the tobacco, So Double Coronas are going incure a higher percentage than say for example a demi tasse. That said its an insane mark up whatever you buy!
CaptainQuintero Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 SHEEEEIIT! Almost cheaper to fly to Havana, bring back or mail yourself a few boxes and enjoy some sun while your at it. lol with $1100 for a box of Esplendidos it actually is!
Guest rob Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 In Australia, even if you travelled to Cuba and brought back cigars - you would still pay full duty + GST (tax) on any amount over 50 grams.
Cigar Surgeon Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 In Australia, even if you travelled to Cuba and brought back cigars - you would still pay full duty + GST (tax) on any amount over 50 grams. Wow. At least we can bring back 50 cigars duty free in Canada.
Tan1801 Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 In Australia, even if you travelled to Cuba and brought back cigars - you would still pay full duty + GST (tax) on any amount over 50 grams. I think the current rate is circa $500 p/kg + GST zzzz
El Presidente Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 I think the current rate is circa $500 p/kg + GST zzzz 504 a kilo + 10% GST. Another increase in March.
zmancbr Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 0% in the US...just another reason the Govt here is stupid. They could slap a 15-25% wholesale tax on it and increase revenue while not wasting their time confiscating packages of cigars. Not that I am advocating a tax increase, but its money left on the table. 1
TiminBC Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 In BC it works out close to 400% for cigars. Liquor is also highly taxed. Two weeks ago I saw a bottle of Lafroaig in Cambodia for $25.00 , here it is $78.00. Canadian rye is cheaper.
Ryan Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Ah you know, tax. I can buy Jameson whiskey in Cuba for $20. Here at 27 euro it's nearly double the price. It's made 100 miles down the road from me.
polarbear Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Ah you know, tax. I can buy Jameson whiskey in Cuba for $20. Here at 27 euro it's nearly double the price. It's made 100 miles down the road from me. That's all kinds of messed up
dafrey23 Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 It's this kind of stuff that makes me hope the states never change in this issue. I can get product from the prez for the same price I'd pay for good NCs. It's not even a choice with that economic equation. Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
kwsaw63 Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 504 a kilo + 10% GST. Another increase in March. Jeez! I'll never complain about Singapore duty anymore!
CaptainQuintero Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 I'm just glad the government use all the tax incomes sensibly on things like education, eliminating poverty and working towards a united and peaceful world, otherwise I'd be incredibly miffed! 1
Maplepie Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 I'm just glad the government use all the tax incomes sensibly on things ! I know that was sarcasm, but I really want to add on to that. Combine 2 angers into one rant: Those new "social smoking" ads are paid by with OUR money. The money coming directly from these tobacco tariffs. Those social smoking ads that say if I smoke once or twice a week, I'm an addict. Just like anyone who drinks on Friday and Saturday nights is a dependant alcoholic right? I wouldn't be as miffed if I was a cigarette smoker as it is a tad more related. But as a cigar smoker, I'm deeply angered by the mere fact that this ad attacks me by definition. Let alone the fact that it is funded by me as well. Sorry for the terrible 2nd post. But those 'social smoking' ads just really crossed the line with me. Editor's note: Google: 'social smoking' and 'social earwax picking' if you don't know what I'm talking about. Sent from my BlackBerry Q10 using Tapatalk for Android.
Optic101 Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Update from Singapore: 10% increase on tobacco tax (25% on alcohol) Since last week $388/kg plus 7% GST (on tax and goods)
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