ajgagnon Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 What I have really been coveting is something new, maybe something long & skinny and with the emphasis on flavour, not necessarily strength... but when push comes to shove and I'm on a Christmas budget, I'm back to PLPC and RASS at the top of my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Damn, with what you're looking for, on the same budget, why not a box of HdM Du Gourmet? Great sticks, and still available most places, including here I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanislaw Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 My RASS experience is a bit limited I admit, so perhaps I'm biased (also grumpy that the box of RASS I currently have almost immediately went into a sick period after I smoked one that was stunning) but my heart is a sucker for anything por larranaga and since the weather is getting colder, short and sweet is the way to go until the spring time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpInSmoak Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I have cabs of both. I tend to pull from the PLPC more often. I love the PC vitola, and the flavor profile better suits me. They need some time though. I have 2011s that are just getting ready. I can see them getting much better with another couple years though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajgagnon Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Damn, with what you're looking for, on the same budget, why not a box of HdM Du Gourmet? Great sticks, and still available most places, including here I think Interesting idea, Rye. My experience with HDM is fairly limited (DCs and Epicure 2). Both are great but somehow a bit too refined to really grab my attention. I'll see if I can find some more reviews. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolismoker Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 You really can't go wrong with either. They are both fantastic smokes. That said I feel the recent production of the RASS is the stronger of the two, and as such I would lean in that direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finecigar Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Well they are both trustworthy smokes from my experience, I tend to lean towards PLPC for consistency. Wouldn't ever buy blind though, because they both have seen some choppy quality over the years. If you already have some of each and want long and skinny In your budget i would say LDC Mdo4 if you can find, PL montecarlos, or QdO Panatelas (still available at few sources)... Those are all in a moderate price range. If I were you I would go for 2 boxes of montecarlos, you can't go wrong with those for the winter time budget and temperature! Great value, flavor and smoke well young. As mentioned earlier, du gourmet is a great one too! Best of luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lant63 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I have a box of RASS and they are fantastic, with that said, I ordered a box of PLPC last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polarbear Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I went the PLPC cause I've found them to be pretty decent ROTT where as freah RASS tend to be a bit hit and miss. Haven't ordered a cab of PLPC yet though as I'm waiting til after Christmas I do have a cab of RASS on the way but they'll be in the humi for a long time before they see day light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotusguy Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 RASS all day, every day, and twice on Sundays. I like PLPC, but RASS is by far my favorite Robusto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markmurase Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Both great, both very different. The PLPC needs time. The RASS is very full bodied and at their best truly great. I voted for the RASS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Festa Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 PLPC cab Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alloy Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I voted RASS also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginseng Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 It depends on what you like. I love the RASS but am apparently blind to the charms of the PLPC. And that is having owned and sampled from cabs going back as far as 2001. I am completely immune to the magic. If you are like me, in the apparent minority, then there is no question. BTW, I ended up selling every PL I owned aside from the Lonsdales and Robustos ER. Wilkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgravito Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 RASS all day, every day, and twice on Sundays. I like PLPC, but RASS is by far my favorite Robusto. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCgarman Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 ^^^^^^X2. RASS any day of the week and three times on Sunday. My Favorite cigar!!! I have smoked through many boxes and they are always fantastic. And they are smokeable ROTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreese Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 It depends on what you like. I love the RASS but am apparently blind to the charms of the PLPC. And that is having owned and sampled from cabs going back as far as 2001. I am completely immune to the magic. If you are like me, in the apparent minority, then there is no question. BTW, I ended up selling every PL I owned aside from the Lonsdales and Robustos ER. Wilkey Wlikey - have you tried this? http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/brand.aspx?brand=Por_Larra|naga#132_Edici|on_Regional_Asia_Pacifico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainQuintero Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 X2 on QDO panetela, they make lanceros look like NCs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginseng Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Wlikey - have you tried this? http://www.cubanciga...l_Asia_Pacifico Nope. Sure haven't. Though if they come along like the Robustos, they will be very fine cigars. Wilkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramon_cojones Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 No question, rass at the top, plpc at the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philski Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 X2 on QDO panetela, they make lanceros look like NCs Prove it. As the others have said, I think the PLPC might be the better option for long term ageing. I am half way through an '04 cab that is getting better and better, and have an '06 cab that I haven't even looked at for about two years. Just far too tannic when young for me. I have had far fewer RASS, just a 50 cab from about '02 that was rather tasty at 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmancbr Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 The current PLPCs are KILLER. You used to have to age them 3-5 years to bring out the caramel and sweet flavors that lie within. But the 2012s I've smoked have honestly been better than my 07s and 08s. The RASS are good, but will need some rest IMO. However if you love the RA profile why not go with RASCC? They are smoking perfect ROTT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 ^^^^^^X2. RASS any day of the week and three times on Sunday. My Favorite cigar!!! I have smoked through many boxes and they are always fantastic. And they are smokeable ROTT. x3 RASS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahlgren Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 +1 zmancbr. The rascc is wonderfull. Skickas från min iPhone via Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotusguy Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 +1 zmancbr. The rascc is wonderfull. Skickas från min iPhone via Tapatalk Except he is asking about RASS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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