Fugu Posted June 17 Posted June 17 On 6/17/2025 at 3:02 AM, GP012 said: Shouldn't the 2003 Upmann factory be ECA, not LCA? Correct. This was the code from 1999 through 2003. H. Upmann (José Martí) still carried the original code from 1999 when, according to the systematics at that time, all codes for Havana factories startet with letter E. 1
my happy place Posted July 1 Posted July 1 I really appreciate this post. It's been a great resource. 1
Popular Post MagicalBikeRide Posted July 4 Popular Post Posted July 4 On 6/12/2025 at 1:26 PM, Webbo said: I’d guess GES rather than OES - recent GES stamp I have below 5
Cestis4 Posted July 7 Posted July 7 I’ve noticed the GES code is usually blue. Is this a specific to El Laguito? Not the code, but the color.
gormag38 Posted July 8 Posted July 8 On 7/7/2025 at 3:42 PM, Cestis4 said: I’ve noticed the GES code is usually blue. Is this a specific to El Laguito? Not the code, but the color. I've seen it both ways. With UAO, MAR and GES. Certainly have seen it with some others as well (RAT and EOL come to mind). I'd be shocked if there's any rhyme or reason behind the choice in color. 1
MagicalBikeRide Posted July 8 Posted July 8 Yeah, same here. Mix of blue and black and across a range of years, factories, etc. - albeit black more common. I’d be shocked if the protocol includes using whichever color ink pad is available.
abcd1234 Posted August 8 Posted August 8 I recently got two boxes of Juan Lopez. Left - Juan Lopez Valkyria Exclusivo Regional Nordicos 2023 - Segui Right - Juan Lopez No2 - S.A. Vegas Is it commonplace for the smaller brands to split their production in multiple factories?
abcd1234 Posted August 12 Posted August 12 On 8/8/2025 at 5:11 PM, abcd1234 said: I recently got two boxes of Juan Lopez. Left - Juan Lopez Valkyria Exclusivo Regional Nordicos 2023 - Segui Right - Juan Lopez No2 - S.A. Vegas Is it commonplace for the smaller brands to split their production in multiple factories? Got another box of Juan Lopez, this time No.1, this time OSG, these seem to be made allover the island 😛 https://i.ibb.co/YF2FVqgV/PXL-20250812-154814410.jpg
Fugu Posted August 14 Posted August 14 On 8/8/2025 at 9:11 AM, abcd1234 said: Is it commonplace for the smaller brands to split their production in multiple factories? Yep, pretty normal. Often it’s more a matter of formats rather than marca. 2
abcd1234 Posted September 2 Posted September 2 On 8/14/2025 at 8:32 PM, Fugu said: Yep, pretty normal. Often it’s more a matter of formats rather than marca. Ah guess that makes sense! Did however receive another box of the JL Valkyria Nordic Regionals that seem to come from a different factory. Given there were only 6000 boxes made of these I would have assumed they all come from the same factory. Box 607/6000 OME ABR 24 Box 3365/6000 ESU SEP 24
CLP Posted September 11 Posted September 11 Finally obtained a box of Partagas E2. Matched up the box code to El Laguito. Anyone know if all Partagas E2 are rolled at Laguito? 1
Chibearsv Posted September 12 Posted September 12 23 hours ago, CLP said: Finally obtained a box of Partagas E2. Matched up the box code to El Laguito. Anyone know if all Partagas E2 are rolled at Laguito? They are not. 1
unaslob Posted September 16 Posted September 16 On 9/12/2025 at 8:58 AM, CLP said: Finally obtained a box of Partagas E2. Matched up the box code to El Laguito. Anyone know if all Partagas E2 are rolled at Laguito? Could you post a pic of that box & labels etc.??
rascalmonkey Posted September 17 Posted September 17 On 9/12/2025 at 8:58 AM, CLP said: Finally obtained a box of Partagas E2. Matched up the box code to El Laguito. Anyone know if all Partagas E2 are rolled at Laguito? There have been periods where 5 packs of E2's were rolled there + they're good!
WYSPR Posted September 23 Posted September 23 Can anyone point me in the right direction for research on 1990s to 1999 boxes? The search function seems to be above my skill base, haha!
Puros Y Vino Posted September 23 Posted September 23 5 hours ago, WYSPR said: Can anyone point me in the right direction for research on 1990s to 1999 boxes? The search function seems to be above my skill base, haha! If you don't know this site yet, get to know it. CCW (link to factory and date codes). From what I see BMO ASC. From the era you're looking for, the NIVELCUSO system was in place. None of this jives with those breakdowns. If its' a 1999, it would would use the CODIGENTA system. Nothing lines up there either. BM might be the Briones Montoto (RyJ) factory. The third character is indeed an O vs 0 doesn't jive. Maybe it's a "D"? The font looks off as well. The markings appear to be Canadian. Is there any other label to confirm if it's Havana House as the distributor? 1
WYSPR Posted September 23 Posted September 23 4 hours ago, Puros Y Vino said: If you don't know this site yet, get to know it. CCW (link to factory and date codes). From what I see BMO ASC. From the era you're looking for, the NIVELCUSO system was in place. None of this jives with those breakdowns. If its' a 1999, it would would use the CODIGENTA system. Nothing lines up there either. BM might be the Briones Montoto (RyJ) factory. The third character is indeed an O vs 0 doesn't jive. Maybe it's a "D"? The font looks off as well. The markings appear to be Canadian. Is there any other label to confirm if it's Havana House as the distributor? Ah yes. Thank-you sir you are the best! 4 hours ago, Puros Y Vino said: The markings appear to be Canadian. Yes Canadian. It does align with BM as it is a Saint Luis Rey box, but I was hoping to date it and maybe that is a bit more difficult. BM -RyJ ASC - June 97' ?, but yea the 0/O is confusing me; maybe its June 6 A or OA So, BM 0ASC ?
leonkang Posted September 24 Posted September 24 On 9/16/2025 at 10:12 AM, unaslob said: Could you post a pic of that box & labels etc.?? Among the factory codes I have collected, the factories that have rolled PSE2 are GRB/BSE/PTE/OEG
yuppie Posted September 28 Posted September 28 What are the La Corona factory codes? Also, do we know any of the codes/factories after 2023?
WYSPR Posted September 28 Posted September 28 pre 2003: Miguel Fernández Roig - La Corona Havana City FR EOG EOG, EAR Post 2003: La Corona EAR KMM FJN OEB EMA OPM OPM URG MLO AME EML EML EML TOS TOS LGR RAT BRM I have not seen anything concrete on dates past then from what I am searching.
LizardGizmo Posted September 29 Author Posted September 29 What are the La Corona factory codes? Also, do we know any of the codes/factories after 2023?They remain unchanged since 2022. La Corona codes are on the top of the PDF on the first post in this thread. 2
smashed Posted September 30 Posted September 30 Just wanted to drop a note and say thanks for this resource as I use it at least once a month! 1
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