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I promised this document a long time ago in another thread and I finally found the time to finish it. The various source material we found was very difficult to read. I will continue to iterate on err

I’m in Havana now. Confirmed with four different factory directors that codes still haven’t changed and there is no current plan to. I did hear from one that the whole box code system might be changin

Version 1.3 is here with several corrections and a notable addition! UME - a very prominent code in 2014/2015 - has finally made its first appearance. Took me awhile to figure out which provincial fac

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On 6/17/2025 at 3:02 AM, GP012 said:

Shouldn't the 2003 Upmann factory be ECA, not LCA?

Correct. This was the code from 1999 through 2003. H. Upmann (José Martí) still carried the original code from 1999 when, according to the systematics at that time, all codes for Havana factories startet with letter E.

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I’ve noticed the GES code is usually blue. Is this a specific to El Laguito? Not the code, but the color.  

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On 7/7/2025 at 3:42 PM, Cestis4 said:

I’ve noticed the GES code is usually blue. Is this a specific to El Laguito? Not the code, but the color.  

I've seen it both ways. With UAO, MAR and GES. Certainly have seen it with some others as well (RAT and EOL come to mind). I'd be shocked if there's any rhyme or reason behind the choice in color.

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Yeah, same here. Mix of blue and black and across a range of years, factories, etc. - albeit black more common. 

I’d be shocked if the protocol includes using whichever color ink pad is available.

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I recently got two boxes of Juan Lopez.

Left - Juan Lopez Valkyria Exclusivo Regional Nordicos 2023 - Segui

Right - Juan Lopez No2 - S.A. Vegas

Is it commonplace for the smaller brands to split their production in multiple factories?

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On 8/8/2025 at 5:11 PM, abcd1234 said:

I recently got two boxes of Juan Lopez.

Left - Juan Lopez Valkyria Exclusivo Regional Nordicos 2023 - Segui

Right - Juan Lopez No2 - S.A. Vegas

Is it commonplace for the smaller brands to split their production in multiple factories?

Got another box of Juan Lopez, this time No.1, this time OSG, these seem to be made allover the island 😛

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On 8/8/2025 at 9:11 AM, abcd1234 said:

Is it commonplace for the smaller brands to split their production in multiple factories?

Yep, pretty normal. Often it’s more a matter of formats rather than marca.

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On 8/14/2025 at 8:32 PM, Fugu said:

Yep, pretty normal. Often it’s more a matter of formats rather than marca.

Ah guess that makes sense! Did however receive another box of the JL Valkyria Nordic Regionals that seem to come from a different factory. Given there were only 6000 boxes made of these I would have assumed they all come from the same factory. 

Box 607/6000

OME 

ABR 24

Box 3365/6000

ESU

SEP 24

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Finally obtained a box of Partagas E2. Matched up the box code to El Laguito. Anyone know if all Partagas E2 are rolled at Laguito?

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23 hours ago, CLP said:

Finally obtained a box of Partagas E2. Matched up the box code to El Laguito. Anyone know if all Partagas E2 are rolled at Laguito?

They are not.

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On 9/12/2025 at 8:58 AM, CLP said:

Finally obtained a box of Partagas E2. Matched up the box code to El Laguito. Anyone know if all Partagas E2 are rolled at Laguito?

Could you post a pic of that box & labels etc.??

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On 9/12/2025 at 8:58 AM, CLP said:

Finally obtained a box of Partagas E2. Matched up the box code to El Laguito. Anyone know if all Partagas E2 are rolled at Laguito?

There have been periods where 5 packs of E2's were rolled there + they're good!

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Can anyone point me in the right direction for research on 1990s to 1999 boxes? The search function seems to be above my skill base, haha!

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5 hours ago, WYSPR said:

Can anyone point me in the right direction for research on 1990s to 1999 boxes? The search function seems to be above my skill base, haha!

If you don't know this site yet, get to know it.  CCW (link to factory and date codes).

From what I see BMO ASC.

From the era you're looking for, the NIVELCUSO system was in place. None of this jives with those breakdowns.

If its' a 1999, it would would use the CODIGENTA system.  Nothing lines up there either.

BM might be the Briones Montoto (RyJ) factory. The third character is indeed an O vs 0 doesn't jive.  Maybe it's a "D"?  The font looks off as well.  The markings appear to be Canadian.  Is there any other label to confirm if it's Havana House as the distributor?

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4 hours ago, Puros Y Vino said:

If you don't know this site yet, get to know it.  CCW (link to factory and date codes).

From what I see BMO ASC.

From the era you're looking for, the NIVELCUSO system was in place. None of this jives with those breakdowns.

If its' a 1999, it would would use the CODIGENTA system.  Nothing lines up there either.

BM might be the Briones Montoto (RyJ) factory. The third character is indeed an O vs 0 doesn't jive.  Maybe it's a "D"?  The font looks off as well.  The markings appear to be Canadian.  Is there any other label to confirm if it's Havana House as the distributor?

Ah yes. Thank-you sir you are the best!

4 hours ago, Puros Y Vino said:

The markings appear to be Canadian.

Yes Canadian.

It does align with BM as it is a Saint Luis Rey box, but I was hoping to date it and maybe that is a bit more difficult.

BM -RyJ ASC - June 97' ?, but yea the 0/O is confusing me; maybe its 

June 6 A or OA

So, BM 0ASC ?

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On 9/16/2025 at 10:12 AM, unaslob said:

Could you post a pic of that box & labels etc.??

Among the factory codes I have collected, the factories that have rolled PSE2 are GRB/BSE/PTE/OEG

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pre 2003:

Miguel Fernández Roig - La Corona Havana City FR EOG EOG, EAR


Post 2003: 

La Corona EAR KMM FJN OEB EMA OPM OPM URG MLO AME EML EML EML TOS TOS LGR RAT BRM

I have not seen anything concrete on dates past then from what I am searching.

 

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What are the La Corona factory codes? Also, do we know any of the codes/factories after 2023?

They remain unchanged since 2022. La Corona codes are on the top of the PDF on the first post in this thread.
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