TobaccoRoad Posted November 1, 2025 Posted November 1, 2025 On 1/30/2025 at 10:17 AM, LizardGizmo said: Does anyone else have a record of either BEO or BOE? I'm wondering if the 16/17 code listed as BOE for Caney Factory in Santiago is a typo on the document. Bit of a necro thread response here. Just saw this question. Montecristo No.4 BEO JUL 16 - purchased from a grey market vendor in March of 2021. These are long gone, but as I recall they were a mild but flavorful smokes with a decidedly chocolate/coffee profile. As I was updating my records and looked at these photos later, I was leaning towards them being fakes. I could not find the box code on your list and something about the font of the box code did not look right.
FOHgetaboutit Posted November 1, 2025 Posted November 1, 2025 I wonder when the next code change will be? Aren’t we beyond due?
NYGuido Posted November 4, 2025 Posted November 4, 2025 Hey folks! Anyone have info on whether LRO was ever a real code? I was going through my stash and confirming box dates, etc., and my Hoyo Epi 1s have this box code from 2024. Here's a pic in case I am reading it wrong. Can't find the code on the spreadsheet. I got these from a vendor I've purchased many boxes from with no issues. Vendor is trusted on the Cuban subreddit and has never, not once, been suspected of selling fakes, so I'm stumped.
Salomones Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 LRO is Cruces fabric in Cienfuegos Province. Hoyo San Juan was boxed there too. In the List is LNO - that's one of the verified mistakes. 1
NYGuido Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 10 hours ago, Salomones said: LRO is Cruces fabric in Cienfuegos Province. Hoyo San Juan was boxed there too. In the List is LNO - that's one of the verified mistakes. Thank you so much! Really appreciate this. 1
benfica_77 Posted November 24, 2025 Posted November 24, 2025 By any chance do you gents know which factory is OEG? Seems like a bigger factory since it's a popular box code. Thanks.
Salomones Posted November 24, 2025 Posted November 24, 2025 16 hours ago, benfica_77 said: By any chance do you gents know which factory is OEG? Seems like a bigger factory since it's a popular box code. Thanks. OEG is Felia No. 2 in Holguin Province. 2
Fugu Posted January 7 Posted January 7 Anyone familiar with a RTE 2025 box code? Seems that it's not contained in the current list. This is from a recently acquired box of Monte 2s. Mis-stamped Santa Clara code? New code? The right “leg” of the R appears a bit smeared though (zooming in), so could likewise be a “P” perhaps?
gormag38 Posted January 7 Posted January 7 7 hours ago, Fugu said: he right “leg” of the R appears a bit smeared though (zooming in), so could likewise be a “P” perhaps? At first it clearly looked like an R to me. But after looking closer I certainly see it being smudged. I think PTE is the winner. 1
sbsbsb1 Posted January 7 Posted January 7 With the confirmation that La Corona was/is supervising prison rolling ops, does this mean those prison rolls are being stamped as BRM?
LizardGizmo Posted January 7 Author Posted January 7 42 minutes ago, sbsbsb1 said: With the confirmation that La Corona was/is supervising prison rolling ops, does this mean those prison rolls are being stamped as BRM? These cigars are almost certainly making their way into color matching and banding at Corona and elsewhere across the island. 1 hour ago, Fugu said: Anyone familiar with a RTE 2025 box code? Seems not contained in the current list. This is from a recently acquired box of Monte 2s. Mis-stamped Santa Clara code? New code? The right “leg” of the R appears a bit smeared though (zooming in), so could likewise be a “P” perhaps? I think this is PTE and - like we've discussed earlier in this thread - I think a damaged/compromised stamp actually adds to authenticity. When we see this identical messed up stamp on other boxes, it just helps us know it's the real deal. 3
Fugu Posted January 7 Posted January 7 6 hours ago, gormag38 said: At first it clearly looked like an R to me. But after looking closer I certainly see it being smudged. I think PTE is the winner. Thank you @gormag38! I think you are right. On more thorough inspection it looks closer to a P than an R, indeed.
Popular Post LizardGizmo Posted January 7 Author Popular Post Posted January 7 I will be putting out an updated (long overdue) version of this document in Q1 2026. If anyone has any other notes on wrong/missing codes on the Version 1.3 sheet, please comment here or PM me. 12 11
NYGuido Posted January 15 Posted January 15 On 1/8/2026 at 2:56 AM, LizardGizmo said: I will be putting out an updated (long overdue) version of this document in Q1 2026. If anyone has any other notes on wrong/missing codes on the Version 1.3 sheet, please comment here or PM me. If it is at all possible and not too much a pain in the a**, can you include some information on fonts and colors? I know that would help folks. I also have seen a period between the month and year on a suspect box I have, so little tells like that could be useful, especially since I know they've started double stamping some boxes to make sure the info is visible with all the warning stickers countries mandate. THANK YOU!!!! 2
leonkang Posted January 30 Posted January 30 On 1/7/2026 at 11:56 PM, LizardGizmo said: I will be putting out an updated (long overdue) version of this document in Q1 2026. If anyone has any other notes on wrong/missing codes on the Version 1.3 sheet, please comment here or PM me. I'd like to add a factory code: EOA. Also, should LNO in the original document actually be LRO?
Salomones Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 1/30/2026 at 1:10 PM, leonkang said: I'd like to add a factory code: EOA. Also, should LNO in the original document actually be LRO? EOA, I've not seen so far. And yes. LNO is LRO. 1
Salomones Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 1/31/2026 at 7:20 AM, WYSPR said: Thoughts on 'CVA' ? Can't seem to correlate this one. I would say, just wrong order of letters in stamp. CAV would be Segui in Havana Province. 2
Tstew75 Posted February 7 Posted February 7 On 1/8/2026 at 2:56 AM, LizardGizmo said: I will be putting out an updated (long overdue) version of this document in Q1 2026. If anyone has any other notes on wrong/missing codes on the Version 1.3 sheet, please comment here or PM me. Thanks man! Excited for the new list. 1
leonkang Posted February 9 Posted February 9 On 2/4/2026 at 5:27 AM, Salomones said: EOA,我目前还没见过。是的,LNO 就是 LRO。 The cigars I purchased included the Petit Quintero, and the information I gathered from other websites also included the Partagas Serie D4, D5, and Mille Fleurs.
yuppie Posted February 15 Posted February 15 How important are "Mother Factories"? I'm hearing that they blow other factories out of the water, which is a little hard for me to believe because the Siglo III is an amazing smoke to me, and supposedly it was never rolled at El Laguito. 2
Salomones Posted February 15 Posted February 15 9 hours ago, yuppie said: How important are "Mother Factories"? I'm hearing that they blow other factories out of the water, which is a little hard for me to believe because the Siglo III is an amazing smoke to me, and supposedly it was never rolled at El Laguito. It has become almost meaningless. Factories send their cigars to others for sorting, and so on. At the latest during color sorting, no further identification is possible. What was previously used as tobacco in the cigars is thus completely mixed. 1
Tunkat92 Posted February 15 Posted February 15 16 hours ago, yuppie said: How important are "Mother Factories"? I'm hearing that they blow other factories out of the water, which is a little hard for me to believe because the Siglo III is an amazing smoke to me, and supposedly it was never rolled at El Laguito. I like to purchase mother factory codes, but I haven’t experienced any “blowing out of the water”. I had plenty of s****y Havana codes and plenty of amazing provincial codes. Also I am pretty sure I've seen Siglo III with EL codes. 1
Hammer898 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Can anyone help me with this code? Was looking back and found this and can’t find it. I would assume they messed up and it’s TOS but came here to see what you all have to say.
gormag38 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 21 hours ago, Hammer898 said: I would assume they messed up and it’s TOS but came here to see what you all have to say. Man I don't know, generally you can sort of see where the stamp is smudged or messed up when they 'mess up'. I'm not seeing that with TOS. It could maybe be GOS, EOS, PUS as well. Then again it's hard to 'see' any of those codes in yours as well. 🤔 Perhaps someone else could shed a light? Do you have photos of the rest of the box/what are they? RyJ for sure but definitely not the MSA factory. 1
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