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Can the best NC Petit Corona take on the best CC Petit Corona? 

There are a couple of things here to unpack but in essence, 

1. What are the best NC Petit Corona on the market today and do they stack up against, say, Montecristo Number 4/Boli PC. 

2. Are there any NC Petit Corona that could come close to a Siglo II at its best?  

I have always struggled to find high end NC Petit Coronas. It is one of the reasons Hamlet and I went down this path. 

I really look forward to your input :thumbsup:

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CC's tend to be complex, whereas NC's tend to be one dimensional...

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1 minute ago, Chas.Alpha said:

The Cuban blends have remained somewhat constant over the past years.

I think PC's are Cuba's greatest strength.  PC's and Half Corona's. 

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2 minutes ago, HoyoFan said:

How about the Padron anniversary principe?

44 gauge  moves it technically outside the realm

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I really enjoy some Tatuajes PCs but, despite the perfect construction and draw you don't get the same complexity. That said, that is true for most NC vitolas/brands.

That said, I'm mostly smoking NCs these days and loving it. The tables have turned and re-discovering NCs has been a fun journey. 

From my experience the most complex NCs I have had over the last 12-18 months have been from a boutique factory in Miami. 

I truly believe that Rob and Hamlet have the potential to bring NCs to a whole new level. Very cool venture and business model. Timing could not have been better and I am certain that it was well planned well before Habanos S.A.'s grossly exaggerated price increases. Well done!:2thumbs:

 

 

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I really enjoy the Warped Cloud Hopper no.53. It is close to as good as Cuban PC. The Illusione Le Grande Classe is probably my favorite NC PC though it is called PC it is only 4 5/8 by 40, so, doesn't really qualify.

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1 hour ago, El Presidente said:

I think PC's are Cuba's greatest strength.  PC's and Half Corona's. 

I think they were. Tabacuba f’d this up too unfortunately. RAPCs and Partagas PCs were to die for.

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14 minutes ago, PigFish said:

I think they were. Tabacuba f’d this up too unfortunately. RAPCs and Partagas PCs were to die for.

Agree-Had a db of 2000 RAPC that were insanely good. Have never had a better PC. Even at 15 yrs they were still going strong! 

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I don't have enough experience with NC PCs, but my go-to CC have been PLPC and Monte 4 for quite some time and I have never found anything in the NC world that compares to one (when they're on). I also don't think/know if any NC makers care enough to try and get close to those flavor profiles...they seem to simply rest on their laurels and the fans/loyalists they have in that market. Again, though, not super experienced with them in PC, so I could be way off (but I suspect not). It's why we all appreciate the work you guys are doing with the Nudies...it's giving thought to something (that I feel) that hasn't been explored...game changing! Keep it going and the sky's the limit.

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Out of all the CC's I've smoked , I will say the petite Corona of any Marca have been consistently good. 

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3 hours ago, HoyoFan said:

How about the Padron anniversary principe?

I have a box. They are great sticks. But not a Mareva or petit corona. Different size.

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1 hour ago, SCgarman said:

I have a box. They are great sticks. But not a Mareva or petit corona. Different size.

I love them and I think the 44 gauge is an underutilised format. I have had 100 moulds made (44) to experiment with Longer and shorter vitolas. 

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I can't think of any NC PC that gets anywhere close from BPC. PC is the most reliable cuban format in my opinion. They are consistent, enjoyable and the price was (yes, in the past) fair. We can argue the relation between cost and benefits of cuban PC and that's where NC can fillup the blank. But flavorwise? Nah, not right now at least.

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Not that I've found so far. Just ordered a bundle of Mareva IV's. I'm hopeful that will change my opinion. 

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Best Cuban PC's in my eyes are
1. Siglo 2
2=RyJ PC
2=Boli PC
3. RG
4. Non Plus
5. Plpc
6. Monte 4

My favourite Current production CC Vitolas are DC and PC

No NC PC has ever got close to any Cuban PC, let alone those at the top of the list.

I really like the Natural Fuentes, especially the Lonsdale and Canones but I think the PC is the worst of the Line.

NC's perform best in Lonsdale and Churchill for me.

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20 minutes ago, therealrsr said:

An NC I have enjoyed is the AF Opus X 5.  While I enjoy it, it is not as good as my montes and bolis.  Siglo II no way.

 

Agree. Not a bad stick. Picked up a couple at local shop. Still not in same league as most cuban pc

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I really enjoy the Warped Cloud Hopper no.53. It is close to as good as Cuban PC. The Illusione Le Grande Classe is probably my favorite NC PC though it is called PC it is only 4 5/8 by 40, so, doesn't really qualify.

Fully agree with the Illusione Epernay line comment. Although the size is off.
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1 hour ago, HoyoFan said:


Fully agree with the Illusione Epernay line comment. Although the size is off.

The Le Grande Classe is actually its own thing. Though the epernay line is among my favorite NC blends, I prefer the Le Ferme size which is closer to a robusto or Hermosa no.4. The Le Grande Classe is like Dion Giolito's nudie blend. Comes in a gold foil bundle with no bands in only the one size and its on the cheaper side but it's fantastic.

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2 minutes ago, JoeyBones777 said:

The Le Grande Classe is actually its own thing. Though the epernay line is among my favorite NC blends, I prefer the Le Ferme size which is closer to a robusto or Hermosa no.4. The Le Grande Classe is like Dion Giolito's nudie blend. Comes in a gold foil bundle with no bands in only the one size and its on the cheaper side but it's fantastic.

Ooh interesting. Haven't heard of it, how does it compare to Epernay flavor-wise?

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15 hours ago, PigFish said:

I think they were. Tabacuba f’d this up too unfortunately. RAPCs and Partagas PCs were to die for.

And JLPC. 

I really don't think there are many NC's that are pc in the first place. At least I am not finding them. 

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2 hours ago, HoyoFan said:

Ooh interesting. Haven't heard of it, how does it compare to Epernay flavor-wise?

Very different. For me, Epernay is toasted nut, floral sweetness, touch of leather, milk chocolate and in some vitolas a bit of pepper in medium-light body. The Le Grande Classe is more citrus, coffee, sweet spices/fall spices, toasted nuts and cocoa in medium/medium-full body. I really like it in the morning with a cup of black coffee.

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