Possibly mold that doesn’t wipe off?

[rydhandley]

Hi all,

I know this topic has been beaten to death and I’ve spent quite a bit of time researching prior to posting (including the mold study here). From what I understand, mold can be easily wiped off. This substance does not come off easily at all. I even took a fingernail to it (gross sorry) and it stays on. Can someone please help/guide me in understanding what’s going on here? 

[ha_banos]

You can try capping it and see if its in the body of the cigar. You can always send it into the FOH test lab?

[Edicion]

Possible that it's not the first mold outbreak on these, wiped down a few times, dried out, and whatever is on them now comes from the leaves themselves, and sorry looks like they've gone too far, at least for my taste.

[Ford2112]

It's true plume!

[BrightonCorgi]

Doesn't look bad to me.  I'd smoke them.

[DaBoot]

Could be some glue from the fingers of the roller. Older sticks I notice the white coming out more on the wrapper

[joeypots]

If there isn’t any mold in the foot of the cigar I’d wipe it off the cigar and have at them.

[Sup3r6]

11 minutes ago, joeypots said:

If there isn’t any mold in the foot of the cigar I’d wipe it off the cigar and have at them.

Something tells me it doesn't wipe off. Possibly the thread title 🤣 

[rydhandley]

Thanks all. I’m going to cut into the cap and a little into the foot to examine. 

[El Presidente]

11 hours ago, rydhandley said:

From what I understand, mold can be easily wiped off. 

That isn't the case unfortunately. 

Some samples that we had tested consisted of  fine particles that hung on stubbornly. 

They came back from testing as just another form of mold. 

[BrightonCorgi]

1 hour ago, rydhandley said:

Thanks all. I’m going to cut into the cap and a little into the foot to examine. 

I'd sacrifice the worst one by cutting it in half by length and examine.

[rydhandley]

1 hour ago, El Presidente said:

That isn't the case unfortunately. 

Some samples that we had tested consisted of  fine particles that hung on stubbornly. 

They came back from testing as just another form of mold. 

Well that stinks. I took a wet paper towel to brush it off, and a good amount of the substance came off with some harder scrubbing. I think the reasonable conclusion is mold, or (hopefully but seemingly less likely) glue as @DaBoot said. 

[Hammer Smokin']

what caused the mold? Increased Temps combined with increased RH? Combo of both? One or the other? 

[rydhandley]

6 minutes ago, Hammer Smokin' said:

what caused the mold? Increased Temps combined with increased RH? Combo of both? One or the other? 

Can’t say. I just received these from a vendor a few days ago. Reached out and awaiting an answer. 

[Hammer Smokin']

oh those are newly purchased?!

that sucks bad!

[joeypots]

4 hours ago, Sup3r6 said:

Something tells me it doesn't wipe off. Possibly the thread title 🤣 

Well, then it must be plume. 🤣

 

[Glass Half Full]

In case it's helpful (and BTW also learned from FOH), I have used a vodka wipe down to solve a similar problem from some aged cigars that arrived in less than ideal shape. After that, I set those aside -- isolated -- in a tupperware with a 62% boveda and, after a few weeks, all was well. 

Hope that's helpful.  

[rydhandley]

48 minutes ago, Glass Half Full said:

In case it's helpful (and BTW also learned from FOH), I have used a vodka wipe down to solve a similar problem from some aged cigars that arrived in less than ideal shape. After that, I set those aside -- isolated -- in a tupperware with a 62% boveda and, after a few weeks, all was well. 

Hope that's helpful.  

I read here to use distilled water instead of alcohol because alcohol can destroy the oils on the cigar.  Any idea if that's true?

[El Presidente]

2 hours ago, rydhandley said:

I read here to use distilled water instead of alcohol because alcohol can destroy the oils on the cigar.  Any idea if that's true?

Pour 60ml of vodka in one glass. 

Use a new clean cloth. 

Pour 125 ml of water in another glass. 

Dip the clean cloth in the glass of water. Squeeze out any excess. 

Drink the vodka. 

Gently wipe clean the mold on the cigar wrapper. 

 

[joeruby]

And if it doesn’t work.. Repeat👍

[Hammer Smokin']

I'd 'return' before I 'repeat'. 

[rydhandley]

20 hours ago, El Presidente said:

Pour 60ml of vodka in one glass. 

Use a new clean cloth. 

Pour 125 ml of water in another glass. 

Dip the clean cloth in the glass of water. Squeeze out any excess. 

Drink the vodka. 

Gently wipe clean the mold on the cigar wrapper. 

 

Thanks so much Pres!