Popular Post El Presidente Posted March 18, 2021 Popular Post Posted March 18, 2021 https://quillandpad.com/2021/03/17/cohiba-robusto-the-cuban-benchmark-for-all-cigars/ Cohiba Robusto: The Cuban Benchmark For All Cigars by Ken Gargett Cohiba has that mythical aura about it, but is that always a good thing? A friend recently raised an interesting concept. There is, in his view, a perception that anyone smoking a Cohiba will immediately be assumed to be what we in Australia would call a tosser or wanker (honorifics that surely need no translation wherever you are). I was surprised. I know many lovers of Cohibas, and whether or not they fall into those categories has little to do with the cigars they smoke. Just like wine, watches, cars, and so much more, there are people who choose the best available because they understand and love it. There are others who select the best because they have been told that is what they should have, or it is what they think they should drink/smoke/wear/drive because of image. Anyway, it was an issue we failed to resolve, as so many before it, but as he had brought a couple of one of Cuba’s most famous cigars to the debate, all was forgiven. The cigars in question were Cohiba Robustos ($550/box of 25) – or CoRos as they are commonly called. Cohiba Robusto I have covered the fabulous history of Cohiba and its links to Fidel Castro on several occasions here, so I will not inflict that upon you again. As for the CoRo itself, it was introduced in 1989 at a function at the Ritz in Madrid, along with the Exquisito and the Espléndido, and was a large part of the explosion of interest in robusto-sized cigars that permeated the 1990s. These cigars have a ring gauge of 50 mm and a length of 124 mm. At the time they were introduced, they had the largest ring gauge of any Cohiba cigar. The trend to fatties (and with reference to the move to ridiculously whopping cigars, I mean that with all the disrespect I can muster) has meant that today CoRos look positively anemic. Cohiba Robusto Cuban cigars They are usually purchased in varnished boxes of 25 with a slide lid. From 2003, it has been possible to get a set of five cardboard packs with three cigars in each. From 2014, similarly sized five packs of 15 in aluminum tubes have been available. The Cubans are not terribly forthcoming with data about their cigars (they make the Champenois look positively garrulous with information), but we are told that the tobacco used to roll CoRos is from among the finest harvested, selected from five of the best farms in the Vuelta Abajo region. Needless to say, the names of the specific farms are considered a state secret. These are cigars that will age superbly. They can be a joy when young, but do not be afraid to put them in the very depths of your humidor and leave them there for an extended period. Cohiba Robusto pack of 3 cigars For many, they are the ultimate robusto and among the very best from the Cohiba stable. However, as with every cigar, this is not necessarily a unanimous opinion, but they have been described as the benchmark against which all other cigars must be judged. I’m not sure that I am completely onboard with that, but it does show how highly Cohiba Robustos are regarded. Wherever you place them, for me they are one of Cuba’s finest by any standards. What is key, as it is with every Cuban cigar, is to ensure that you only buy from a trusted retailer and, if possible, you have the opportunity to examine the box before purchase or have an expert do so. All Cuban cigars are not equal. This was never driven home to me more clearly than on an early visit to Cuba. I’d had mixed results with CoRos to that stage – some terrific, some average, and even a few that failed to impress. I was at the Partagás factory (as well as making different cigars, most factories also sell a range from the various houses as well as their own), catching up with a good friend and superstar roller, Hamlet Parides. I mentioned what I was chasing to Hamlet and it was rums down and on with the hunt. Hamlet would have checked 25 to 30 boxes of CoRos for me in the search for the best box he could find. I’ll confess that in those days they all looked the same to me, but not to Hamlet. As he checked through the cigars in each box, I got a masterclass in the smallest differences between cigars. Finally, with apologies to Meatloaf, he found the Coupe de Ville hiding at the bottom of the Cracker Jack box. Cohiba Robusto Cuban cigars The rule of thumb is that if you purchase a box of 25 cigars and 20 of them live up to expectations then you have defied the odds and should consider yourself lucky (imagine if one out of five cartons of milk or one out of five car tires were not satisfactory – would we think that acceptable? And yet we consider it a success with Cuban cigars). The box selected by Hamlet was exemplary. Every single one was a stellar example of what a CoRo can be. I have been a devoted fan ever since. What to expect from a Cohiba Robusto Cohiba Robustos are well constructed, with an array of flavors including caramel, nuts with hazelnuts to the fore, a hint of ginger, a balanced vanillin/woody note, leather, even lemongrass. Some describe a sweet and spicy character though I’m not sure I’ve really ever tasted that. A good one will be all about the balance. Nothing out of place. The flavors will linger but never intrude. The ones my friend provided, we agreed, sat around the 94 to 96 mark. For me, scores will vary from around 93 at the bottom of expectations, and anything less is disappointing, to 98 for those occasions when one really does sing. But a box of cigars scoring in that range is exactly why these cigars are so loved by so many. For more information, please visit www.habanos.com/en. 13
Corylax18 Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 Another graet article, except for one, little, thing that really bugs me. A ring guage of 50mm? I can't believe someone would give Ken Fakes!! I know its a small error, but help me understand how that error makes it all the way to print? I know its not a "cigar publication" at heart, but if you cant get it right, don't do it at all. I've never worked in journalism, but it seems like even basic spell check is a thing of the past. Let alone real, actual review of anything that gets printed. For anybody that's confused, Robustos measure 50/64ths of an inch in diameter, not 1.9685 inches. Am I just being a persnickety ass whole?(don't answer that) I understand I'm reacting to a general issue I've perceived, not just this article. But I see it more every day. People wonder why "old Journalism" is dying. The proverbial candle is being burnt on both ends. 2
Bijan Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 I've seen RG listed in "mm" many times. Including the last time FOH sold some custom rolls, all listed with a "RG" of 50 to 60mm. I will forgive any typo of this sort (one that I missed because my brain immediately corrected it). This doesn't reflect poor journalism but a lack of editing. Anyone going out and rolling or buying a 50mm cigar because of this article should have their head examined.
Kaptain Karl Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 6 hours ago, Bijan said: I've seen RG listed in "mm" many times. Including the last time FOH sold some custom rolls, all listed with a "RG" of 50 to 60mm. I will forgive any typo of this sort (one that I missed because my brain immediately corrected it). This doesn't reflect poor journalism but a lack of editing. Anyone going out and rolling or buying a 50mm cigar because of this article should have their head examined. Is 50mm big? 😆 Perfect timing for this article, now I have less buyers remorse pulling the trigger yesterday on those EL CORO’s 🤩
Bijan Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 32 minutes ago, Kaptain Karl said: Is 50mm big? 😆 It's just under two inches. And about 126RG. 😂 1
BTWheezy Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 Once again Ken, a nice article. A minor detail though: the artist Meat Loaf famously bristles when his name is misspelled “Meatloaf”. Perhaps along the lines of Bryce Springstein? 😉 1 1
La_Tigre Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 6 hours ago, BTWheezy said: Once again Ken, a nice article. A minor detail though: the artist Meat Loaf famously bristles when his name is misspelled “Meatloaf”. Perhaps along the lines of Bryce Springstein? 😉 “Our apologies, Mr. Meatloaf.....errr.....Mister...umm...Loaf...”
Nino Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 Good article and another spellcheck ... : Hamlet's last name is Paredes, not Parides ... 🙂 1
Tstew75 Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 Nice article @Ken Gargett! A sort of recap of you & Prez' CoRo review. I know many have grown cynical about the pricing of CoRo, but damn do they deliver class in spades. 1
Ken Gargett Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 4:56 AM, Corylax18 said: Another graet article, except for one, little, thing that really bugs me. A ring guage of 50mm? I can't believe someone would give Ken Fakes!! I know its a small error, but help me understand how that error makes it all the way to print? I know its not a "cigar publication" at heart, but if you cant get it right, don't do it at all. I've never worked in journalism, but it seems like even basic spell check is a thing of the past. Let alone real, actual review of anything that gets printed. For anybody that's confused, Robustos measure 50/64ths of an inch in diameter, not 1.9685 inches. Am I just being a persnickety ass whole?(don't answer that) I understand I'm reacting to a general issue I've perceived, not just this article. But I see it more every day. People wonder why "old Journalism" is dying. The proverbial candle is being burnt on both ends. mea culpa. that is entirely on me. not concentrating when rushing through the check. an error entirely of my own making. apols.
mprach024 Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 Great article Ken. Btw I’ve seen some appalling spelling on this forum, not sure we all want to start opening up our posts to grammar critiques. Ignore the trolls!!! 1 1
Ken Gargett Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, mprach024 said: Great article Ken. Btw I’ve seen some appalling spelling on this forum, not sure we all want to start opening up our posts to grammar critiques. Ignore the trolls!!! thanks. always fun to do. agree re the spelling. some of it is not exemplary. i am often tempted to offer corrections and then i realise the nightmarish pandorra's box that would open. and if i ever did it, i'd need to be certain i never made another error. that said, when i do make an error, whether me or an editor, always prefer to know. so i don't really have too much of a problem with anyone offering constructive criticism.
jonnyfromiranny Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 Great article, Ken! Was fun to read especially after watching the review last week. Keep em coming! 😀
gr8eman Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Lrabold89 said: Almost had me spark a Coro ....then I remembered how crappy they are without a good 3-5 years down Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'm not a fan of the robusto format for whatever reason. Does that make me strange? Great article though and nice article on the esplendidos if you click the link!...of which I am a huge fan! We should do a "competition" between Sir Winnies, Lusis, RyJ Churchills and Esplendidos. We may need an ambulance but I would be amazing!!
Kaptain Karl Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 8 hours ago, gr8eman said: I'm not a fan of the robusto format for whatever reason. Does that make me strange? Great article though and nice article on the esplendidos if you click the link!...of which I am a huge fan! We should do a "competition" between Sir Winnies, Lusis, RyJ Churchills and Esplendidos. We may need an ambulance but I would be amazing!! I don’t either! However I had a CORO from the Christmas sampler last Friday that made me buy a box. The best cigar of the year so far for me.
PigFish Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 ... this is what happens Ken when you start working with leading capitol capital... letters! -LOL I think the What to Expect section is a bit misleading. Prefaced by, if you get 20 out of 25 you are lucky, placing a 93 or below is a disappointment, means that there will be a lot of disappointed CoRo smokers!!! We're a tough crowd. I salute you (and all prolific posters here) for 'exposing themselves' to devil in the details...! Cheers! -R
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