True of False?

[El Presidente]

Read this and was wondering if True of False?

 

 

"Under a new Golden State law signed this week by Gov. Gavin Newsom, machine-made cigars and handmade “premium” smokes costing under $12 can no longer be sold/  Cigars are only for the rich in California now."

 

[Bijan]

According to the wording of the law it seems it is only banning sales of flavoured cigars.

So no flavoured cigars unless premium and over $12.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200SB793

So probably some overpriced flavoured monstrosities can continue to be sold

Hookah tobacco also excepted.

[HarveyBoulevard]

Correct. Flavored cigars were the target...at least for now.  
 

I do love a slippery slope. 

[NSXCIGAR]

All I'm seeing is regarding flavored products:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-08-28/california-bans-flavored-tobacco-products-sales-newsom-signs-bill%3f_amp=true

[El Presidente]

So flavoured cigars over $12 are fine 

[sirsmokes]

They did this in NYC years ago. It’s to stop promoting brands like Dutchmaster that aren’t used to smoke the actual cigar, rather to re-fill with your own “tobacco”

[Plato]

How am I supposed to unwind on Cali business trips without being able to purchase some of these bad boys? (I smoke it for the nuanced grape flavors of course)  

 

[sho671]

11 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

So flavoured cigars over $12 are fine 

Flavored cigars with a wholesale price over $12 are fine. I read the retail price would be estimated to be around $38 for a single which is pretty ridiculous. I not sure if there are any flavored cigars currently on the market at that price.

[Bijan]

6 minutes ago, sho671 said:

Flavored cigars with a wholesale price over $12 are fine. I read the retail price would be estimated to be around $38 for a single which is pretty ridiculous. I not sure if there are any flavored cigars currently on the market at that price.

I am seeing some coffee flavoured cigars listed at over that price online. I feel like in the non cuban market anything you can think of someone is selling.

Edit: Oops, definitely not for singles!

[sho671]

1 minute ago, Bijan said:

I am seeing some coffee flavoured cigars listed at over that price online. I feel like in the non cuban market anything you can think of someone is selling.

In the US?

[Bijan]

2 minutes ago, sho671 said:

In the US?

My bad! $50 a bunch. Blame Canadian prices for making me believe anything.

[zigarrenziggy]

1 hour ago, sirsmokes said:

They did this in NYC years ago. It’s to stop promoting brands like Dutchmaster that aren’t used to smoke the actual cigar, rather to re-fill with your own “tobacco”

Which, considering the legality of said “filler tobacco” in California calls into question the rationale. I’d assume given that it’s legal, the rationale is more so “flavored things appeal to children”, which, obviously contains its own fallacies, but I don’t think it’s to curb devil‘s lettuce ingestion

[SansSin]

so glad i didn't move to cali like i had planned to a few years ago?  i'm not really a fan of flavored sticks but this sounds like it's gonna screw over all the drew estate acid lovers, which seems like the cigar that gets a lot of people into cigars

[Habana Mike]

13 hours ago, davidv said:

so glad i didn't move to cali like i had planned to a few years ago?  i'm not really a fan of flavored sticks but this sounds like it's gonna screw over all the drew estate acid lovers, which seems like the cigar that gets a lot of people into cigars

Those should be fine as many people pay over $12 a stick for those, especially with Cali taxes!

[sho671]

59 minutes ago, Habana Mike said:

Those should be fine as many people pay over $12 a stick for those, especially with Cali taxes!

Unless they're paying ~$38 for them, they are on the chopping block. The cutoff is $12 wholesale price, not retail price.

[Habana Mike]

1 hour ago, sho671 said:

Unless they're paying ~$38 for them, they are on the chopping block. The cutoff is $12 wholesale price, not retail price.

Ah, didn't read the legalese. I do see where they're talking wholesale prices so pretty much anything "considered" flavored will most likely be out between yhe keystone and taxes.

And getting people to not get into tobacco is the goal...

 

[NSXCIGAR]

According to this report the use of flavored cigars decreases as the ages of the smokers decrease. Kind of the opposite of what they're trying to tell us.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-10-flavored-small-cigars-popular-kids.html

[SansSin]

6 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said:

According to this report the use of flavored cigars decreases as the ages of the smokers decrease. Kind of the opposite of what they're trying to tell us.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-10-flavored-small-cigars-popular-kids.html

makes sense to me, they are only talking about up to senior year in high school and i would assume it would be easier to buy tobacco products the older you get. i don't understand why they just automatically assume only kids like flavored products and flavored cigars are only targeting kids though.

from what i've seen, kids who smoke typically do it for reasons other than the taste. wonder if they will go after the fruity tasting cannabis strains next, they obviously engineered the plant's taste to get kids addicted to drugs??

[PigFish]

... try buying water or energy in California! Socialism has f’ed up everything in this state.

It is a sanctuary for anyone but a taxpayer with a job....