prodigy Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 I thought I knew the answer, but I think I may not. The review competition this weekend says to make a cocktail to review along with any vigar. However, I see lots of beer, straight bourbon etc and only a small handful of what I would consider to be a cocktail. Am I overthinking this or did anyone else notice this too? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wailbait Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Quietly thought similarly. Years ago, I was told be a super-know-it-all that a cocktail was, by definition, a spirit, something sweet, and bitters of some kind. Seemed like a very rigid definition but I looked it up in my old Savoy book and the guy was basically right. So a Manhattan is a cocktail (whiskey, vermouth, bitters) but that means that the way I make my martini (gin, vermouth, no bitters) technically wouldn’t be one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominattorney Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Bunch a lawyers on this forum or what? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Tigre Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 “It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is....” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoliDan Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Wailbait said: Quietly thought similarly. Years ago, I was told be a super-know-it-all that a cocktail was, by definition, a spirit, something sweet, and bitters of some kind. Seemed like a very rigid definition but I looked it up in my old Savoy book and the guy was basically right. So a Manhattan is a cocktail (whiskey, vermouth, bitters) but that means that the way I make my martini (gin, vermouth, no bitters) technically wouldn’t be one. Wikipedia states: A cocktail is an alcoholic mixed drink, which is either a combination of spirits, or one or more spirits mixed with other ingredients such as fruit juice, flavored syrup, or cream. Oxford dictionary is a little more lenient. I agree with wikipedia. There should be any "mixology" other than water, IMHO. Something sweet not necessary. Straight out of the bottle neat or with an ice cube is just a Bourbon, Rum, Scotch or whatever. If I was at a bar and someone called my Talisker 10 year a cocktail, I don't think if I'd give an F... So whatever I suppose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDB Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 I’d say it is now a drink composed of at least two other drinks, at least one of which must be alcoholic, and may contain other ingredients. So Bucks Fizz counts, and so does G&T, but a Virgin Mary doesn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islandboy Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 With all the lawyers on the forum, I’m sure we’ll have a clear answer to the question in no time. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inter4alia Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Might be hard to further define, but I know it when I see it ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wailbait Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 52 minutes ago, inter4alia said: Might be hard to further define, but I know it when I see it ? Pornography and cocktails have a lot in common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nKostyan Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Don't be boring. This is primarily a cigar forum and thus some cigar smokers have shown their contempt for cocktail lovers. "The cigar is primary, everything else let it be a cocktail." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFatMike Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 My impression was that a mixed drink had two components (e.g. gin & tonic, rum & coke, etc.) where a cocktail had at least three components or a particular preparation/garnish (Tom Collins being gin, simple syrup, lemon juice, & soda water; martinis with olives & shaking) etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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