hababa Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Would anyone be kind enough to share which factory this is, and any comments? Can't seem to find any info out there whatsoever. Thanks in advance!
TCContender Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 I have a box of the new HDM Elegantes from ALO from our host. They look nice, but I am giving them the recommended 6-12 months down before sampling.
Smallclub Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Let me check Cuba's telephone directory… 1
Popular Post Akela3rd Posted September 5, 2017 Popular Post Posted September 5, 2017 ALO = Feb 1984 (Lionel Ritchie) Thunder & Lightening '75-'15 4 3
Doctorossi Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 11 minutes ago, Akela3rd said: ALO = Feb 1984 (Lionel Ritchie) Is it Montecristo Especiales you're looking for? 1
hababa Posted September 5, 2017 Author Posted September 5, 2017 Thanks, don't think it's AMO definitely, ALO. Regional factory, not terribly comfortable buying Esplendidos from anywhere except El Laguito. 1
Doctorossi Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 13 minutes ago, hababa said: Regional factory, not terribly comfortable buying Esplendidos from anywhere except El Laguito. Really? A churchill is not a particularly demanding shape. I might not want a Lancero from another factory, but an Espledido should be just fine. 1
Akela3rd Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Is it Montecristo Especiales you're looking for?All night longThunder & Lightening '75-'15 1
havanaclub Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Isn't AMO most recent laguito?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
hababa Posted September 5, 2017 Author Posted September 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Doctorossi said: Really? A churchill is not a particularly demanding shape. I might not want a Lancero from another factory, but an Espledido should be just fine. More of a quality of ingredients concern on my part. 1
Doctorossi Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 45 minutes ago, hababa said: More of a quality of ingredients concern on my part. It should be the same leaves... unless you're worried about storage in travel to and from the factory... ? 1 1
ElPuro Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 4 hours ago, oliverdst said: I think MEL is Laguito. I have esplendidos from MEL 2015. Not reputed as Laguito, but the sticks are crazy good. 1 1
oliverdst Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 31 minutes ago, ElPuro said: I have esplendidos from MEL 2015. Not reputed as Laguito, but the sticks are crazy good. So I guess I am not right. I thought it was a 2017 code.
Bohn007 Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, oliverdst said: So I guess I am not right. I thought it was a 2017 code. I have Montecristo No. 2's and Upmann No. 2's both from MEL and both 2015.
Bohn007 Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 5 hours ago, Doctorossi said: Really? A churchill is not a particularly demanding shape. I might not want a Lancero from another factory, but an Espledido should be just fine. If I am going to spend that kind of money on a box, why not get the best and source a box of El Laguito? Costs the same and chances are a better roller rolled it
saintsmokealot Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 6 hours ago, oliverdst said: I think MEL is Laguito. 08'
hababa Posted September 6, 2017 Author Posted September 6, 2017 Thank you all for the input, I decided to just buy two boxes, can't pass these up as the prices are good. What's the worst that can happen ?
Nino Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 9 hours ago, hababa said: Thank you all for the input, I decided to just buy two boxes, can't pass these up as the prices are good. What's the worst that can happen ? That they turn out to be ALO .... 3
hababa Posted September 6, 2017 Author Posted September 6, 2017 38 minutes ago, nino said: That they turn out to be ALO .... They are!
earthson Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 On 9/5/2017 at 4:44 PM, Doctorossi said: It should be the same leaves... unless you're worried about storage in travel to and from the factory... ? Definitely not the same leaves. I was in a discussion maybe a year ago about RyJ Churchills from 2 different factories from year 2014. One factory's cigars started mild and just built and built in flavor to a towering crescendo; the other factory's cigars came out of the gate swinging and were clearly superior. Assuming equal construction and time between delivery and boxing (ha!), the only difference could have been the leaves used.
Fugu Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 1 hour ago, earthson said: Definitely not the same leaves. I was in a discussion maybe a year ago about RyJ Churchills from 2 different factories from year 2014. One factory's cigars started mild and just built and built in flavor to a towering crescendo; the other factory's cigars came out of the gate swinging and were clearly superior. Assuming equal construction and time between delivery and boxing (ha!), the only difference could have been the leaves used. Of course not the "same" leaves, but the same basic provenance, quality and blend. Heard about consistency issues in CCs before? Mother factory and its subsidiary production places are on principle and - if you so will - "theoretically" using the same stuff for a certain production run. It may be the case that when there is a switch in one tobacco-batch (e.g. one month / year's raw tobacco to the next or swithcing between different fermentation batches, hell even individual bales), that the different places are receiving different batches and/or are working with or running out of those respective qualities sooner or later. So it is not at all unlikely to expect a certain amount of variation, even when produced during the same time period. The very effect that you are describing you can very well experience with boxes coming with identical codes. 1
Benzopyrene Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 Anybody figure out which factory ALO is? I noticed my H.upmann half coronas from tins of 5 are from there in NOV 16, but also RA Haxagone, and RA Terra magica regionals in DIC 16, and RA XXL regional JUL 16. Obviously a factory that rolls a lot of Ramons, or at least regional Ramons.
Jauwels Posted January 11, 2018 Posted January 11, 2018 Anyone has boxes or more information about UGO 17?
mk05 Posted January 11, 2018 Posted January 11, 2018 On 9/6/2017 at 6:57 AM, hababa said: Thank you all for the input, I decided to just buy two boxes, can't pass these up as the prices are good. What's the worst that can happen ? On 9/5/2017 at 2:59 PM, hababa said: Thanks, don't think it's AMO definitely, ALO. Regional factory, not terribly comfortable buying Esplendidos from anywhere except El Laguito. So much for that. @hababa
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