JL 2 Aging Potential

[Mattb82]

Just curious what the thoughts are on aging potential for Juan Lopez # 2 current production as it looks amazing on some of the 24/24 offerings. love the flavor profile and the value is hard to beat. 

[NSXCIGAR]

JL S1 and S2 have become much stronger in the last few years, and as a result I think they stand a great chance of aging well and having some excellent long-term potential. 

However, results from aging iare always unknown. I'd at least like to see how these JLs are doing after 5 years, and that's a few years away.

[foursite12]

Easy way to find out. Fire one up ROTT and take a big ole puff.  I guarantee you will find out how they age in about 4 years when the bed stops spinning.

[BrightonCorgi]

How long would you age them for if you could?

[Mattb82]

4 minutes ago, BrightonCorgi said:

How long would you age them for if you could?

I'm thinking the 4-5 year mark 

[Mattb82]

41 minutes ago, foursite12 said:

Easy way to find out. Fire one up ROTT and take a big ole puff.  I guarantee you will find out how they age in about 4 years when the bed stops spinning.

They are definitely strong but don't hit me too hard if I smoke them at a good pace with some food in my stomach. 

[BrightonCorgi]

1 minute ago, Mattb82 said:

I'm thinking the 4-5 year mark 

You're all set then; buy them.

[Mattb82]

2 minutes ago, BrightonCorgi said:

You're all set then; buy them.

Have a bunch, the waiting is the hard part  

[Wertman]

I got my box about a month ago now.  I have not tried it yet.  Would be interesting to see it now and every 6 months to see how it develops.  Would be meet to start a running thread and tasting notes and every 6 months add to it with new tasting notes over 5 years.  Maybe I will try it.

[Mattb82]

1 hour ago, Wertman said:

I got my box about a month ago now.  I have not tried it yet.  Would be interesting to see it now and every 6 months to see how it develops.  Would be meet to start a running thread and tasting notes and every 6 months add to it with new tasting notes over 5 years.  Maybe I will try it.

I've smoked a few from a beautiful box that's just over a year old. Great already, I really think they are going to be superb 

[Smallclub]

2 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said:

JL S1 and S2 have become much stronger in the last few years,

True, but IMHO they've lost part of their complexity… and I'm not sure age would bring back this complexity…

[Benzopyrene]

I've never had a good one.....just ones own flavor I suppose. I like very few Juan Lopez. I think the last one that stood out to me was the Chiado. I find their blend to be very one dimensional and very flat for my palate. But to each his own. 

[NSXCIGAR]

42 minutes ago, Smallclub said:

True, but IMHO they've lost part of their complexity… and I'm not sure age would bring back this complexity…

Agreed. Which is why it's long-term aging results are going to be quite interesting. Will nuances develop? Will they mellow out? No way to know, and we need at least 2-4 more years to even begin to get an idea of what these things will do. 

[Mattb82]

44 minutes ago, Smallclub said:

True, but IMHO they've lost part of their complexity… and I'm not sure age would bring back this complexity…

What changes have you noticed in the flavor profile. I tried my first JL 2 six months ago so I don't have a good reference. I know it's subjective but still curious. 

[NSXCIGAR]

Just now, Mattb82 said:

What changes have you noticed in the flavor profile. I tried my first JL 2 six months ago so I don't have a good reference. I know it's subjective but still curious. 

IMO, JL S1/S2 since about 2013 has had a profile of strong, black coffee and possibly a bit of earthiness. Nothing like the JL I remember of the past which I thought had mainly a floral/herbal character with some toasted tobacco. Very complex, and always was a just below medium strength cigar. Not anymore. 

[Mattb82]

1 minute ago, NSXCIGAR said:

IMO, JL S1/S2 since about 2013 has had a profile of strong, black coffee and possibly a bit of earthiness. Nothing like the JL I remember of the past which I thought had mainly a floral/herbal character with some toasted tobacco. Very complex, and always was a just below medium strength cigar. Not anymore. 

Gotcha, I agree with the coffee and I pick up some citrus almost every time on current production 

[Smallclub]

11 minutes ago, NSXCIGAR said:

IMO, JL S1/S2 since about 2013 has had a profile of strong, black coffee and possibly a bit of earthiness. Nothing like the JL I remember of the past which I thought had mainly a floral/herbal character with some toasted tobacco. Very complex, and always was a just below medium strength cigar. Not anymore. 

This, exactly.

[luvdunhill]

I have some ORA ABR 14 JLS2 that are still showing legs to age further.

[ElPuro]

1 hour ago, luvdunhill said:

I have some ORA ABR 14 JLS2 that are still showing legs to age further.

I would hope so? Three years is not considered aged.

[luvdunhill]

Well, I suppose I meant that they show promise.

[Sean3]

In the short term, I've found that just 2 years makes a hell of a difference with these.  Terrific smoke!

[Dave O)))]

Easy way to find out. Fire one up ROTT and take a big ole puff.  I guarantee you will find out how they age in about 4 years when the bed stops spinning.

I did that with my first ever JL2. Talk about mongrel! I'll never forget that smoke. About three months later these sticks were singing. As el Pres says, a balance of power and flavour. My favourite smoke!

[Dave O)))]

IMO, JL S1/S2 since about 2013 has had a profile of strong, black coffee and possibly a bit of earthiness. Nothing like the JL I remember of the past which I thought had mainly a floral/herbal character with some toasted tobacco. Very complex, and always was a just below medium strength cigar. Not anymore. 

Funny how different tastes are. I get a dominant floral aspect from them, like a mouth full of the sweetest perfume, which really agrees with my palate. Quite amazing.

[Fugu]

Concur with rehabit - I haven't noticed a major change in the JL2 blend yet. At least not a fundamental one, I'd tend more to relate variation to harvest / vintage differences. The floral aspects usually need some time to shine through (I think they are yet there from the beginning, but are masked behind more pronounced "primary" notes in the fresh/younger stick). That said - true, they have been gotten fuller in body. But just my two , as the Beaver sais.

[David88]

I think the JL2 has excellent potential for aging and even after just 2 - 3 years they mellow. It's definitely my favourite robusto, I would happily take them over a box of CoRo.