JamesKPolkEsq Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Most cigar smokers look at wrapper quality as one of the most important characteristics of a quality cigar (more so perhaps than even the construction of a cigar). We lust after oily wrappers, and drool over their beauty. How much influence, really, does a wrapper have on a cigar's overall flavor profile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planetary Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Opinions vary, primarily based on the rationale that the wrapper is a much smaller percentage of the total leaf smoked than the filler -- but the data indicate it can be a significant part of the flavor, especially when the leaf imparts a unique character. For example: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NSXCIGAR Posted May 7, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2017 Welcome to FOH. Feel free to introduce yourself and allow me to introduce you to the search function. FOH contains a wealth of knowledge accumulated over 12 years on just about every topic imaginable. Here's a few threads found using the search terms "wrapper flavor" and "wrapper taste" 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwr0201 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Wrappers can have a dramatic influence on the flavor profile of a cigar. Take a popular NC marca, LFD. Their Double Ligero line includes both natural and maduro cigars in like sizes. Aside from the wrappers, the filler and binder is identical for each. There is a world of difference in the total flavor profiles of them. Can't speak on CC's as I have not had two of the same Cubans with different wrappers, but I would bet there is the same difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester21 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Without question the most important single aspect of taste. However not everyone likes dark wrappers. I know smoking buddies who love light conn shade wrappers and regard dark oily wrapper cigars as tar laden and generally objectionable. Every once in a while I will get a box with medium wrappers that outperform their darker counterparts so this is not an exact science. OTOH I rarely get a dark oily box that disappoints 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussiegoldsmith Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 If you can, try the Cohiba Maduro and compare with the rest of the Siglo line. Big difference in tastes. Nothing bad, just different. Good way to explore and expand your palate.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gweilgi Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 I like to remove the band from the cigar either before lighting up or shortly thereafter. Sometimes (and almost always with ISOM smokes), this results in the wraper starting to unravel. This has given me the opportunity to compare like for like: smoking the same marca and vitola with and without the wrapper. The result, for me, is quite clear: wrappers do have a significant impact on the flavour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smallclub Posted May 7, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Winchester21 said: Without question the most important single aspect of taste. That is simply not true concerning habanos. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbandz Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 30 minutes ago, gweilgi said: I like to remove the band from the cigar either before lighting up or shortly thereafter. Sometimes (and almost always with ISOM smokes), this results in the wraper starting to unravel. This has given me the opportunity to compare like for like: smoking the same marca and vitola with and without the wrapper. The result, for me, is quite clear: wrappers do have a significant impact on the flavour. you are cutting too deep. try to just remove a leaf thickness and see how it goes.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbandz Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 a while back I tried putting a broadleaf wrapper over a Cuban cigar to see what affect it would have. the result was that the broadleaf almost totally masked any of the flavors of the cigar, t was difficult to find ANY Cuban flavors. I did this with several different marcas,and found that only a Bolivar had enough power to overcome the broadleaf. it was still obvious that the broadleaf was too much to let the Cuban flavors come thru. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhcolbert Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 The math in my mind says it doesn't make sense but taste buds had shown it had a bigger effect than one would think that one thin, delicate slice of leaf should have 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gweilgi Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 24 minutes ago, Hutch said: Precisely 68% of the flavor. What's the confidence interval on your figure? Have you corrected for confounding factors? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gweilgi Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 1 hour ago, garbandz said: you are cutting too deep. try to just remove a leaf thickness and see how it goes.......... This happens when I remove the band, not the cap. I don't usually take a knife to the cigar band.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianbeaver Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 11 minutes ago, gweilgi said: What's the confidence interval on your figure? Have you corrected for confounding factors? I have confidence in his figure and try to judge his posts at frequent intervals. I find correcting factors on this thread confounding. Remove your cap and put on your band before smoking. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirVantes Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 4 hours ago, gweilgi said: What's the confidence interval on your figure? If he's like me, his confidence interval on his figure is "between heavy meals", or in the longer term "between diets". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RijkdeGooier Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 The same vitola two different tones. Sikilar taste but the darker one had a more oomphh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cigaraholic Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 It depends on the wrapper.....little to no influence....to quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigFish Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 ... it largely depends on which hemisphere you live in. Flush your toilet! If the water spins to the right, and you have a right helix wrap on your cigar, then you have intense 'helix' wrapper warp! The right warp is more significant than the left warp, unless you stand on your head or smoke underwater!!! You will have to trust me on this, as facts are hard to come by! -Piggy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigFish Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 ... I forgot to mention. Welcome to FoH. Some of us you have to read with levity!!! -Piggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigFish Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 18 hours ago, Hutch said: Precisely 68% of the flavor. ... I appreciate that you rounded down the decimal places! I wanted you to know that it did not go unnoticed!!! -Piggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliverdst Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 I cant accept the fact that the wrapper influences so much but I have no data to say that It doesnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesKPolkEsq Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 2 hours ago, PigFish said: ... I forgot to mention. Welcome to FoH. Some of us you have to read with levity!!! -Piggy Thanks for the welcome! I've had worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffDaddie Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Wrapper is about 10 per cent of the taste. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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