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i know that this is a topic that creates some argument (in the nicest way, of course). found this on lucky peach. thought it worth sharing. i'm sure others have varying thoughts.

 

How to Sharpen Knives

The sharpest isn't necessarily the best.

THE WAY OF THINKING

Whether it’s a cheap, twenty-dollar specimen or couple-thousand-dollar handmade custom one, knowing how to sharpen your knife properly is the most important thing. More important than the quality of the steel is your ability to maintain it. If someone’s cutting your hair with dull scissors, they’re going to do a very bad job, even if they’re using the best scissors in the world. It’s the same thing with a knife. You have to know how to maintain your tool for it to execute at a high level. What is the construction of the entire blade? How good is the metal, and how does it react on a stone?

The sharpest knife is not necessarily the best knife. A lot of people get obsessed with how fine their sharpening stone is and getting their knives as smooth and sharp as possible. You obviously want something sharp, but what matters more is matching how you sharpen your knife to how you’re going to use it.

Even though they appear smooth, all knives have micro-serrations. The more you polish it, the fewer micro-serrations there are. This makes for a smoother knife, which can feel sharper, but actually takes away the tactile feedback—meaning when you cut into something, you’re less able to really feel what it is you’re cutting into. In Japanese knife practice, you want a relationship between the product that you’re cutting, the knife in your hand, and your brain. The sharper and smoother an edge is, the less tactile feedback you’re going to get from the product.

STONE

When you use a stone, you’re essentially forming a new edge on the blade. To do this you have to form a “burr,” basically a thin ridge that hangs over the edge of the knife. You raise a burr by sharpening from the base of the knife bevel to the cutting edge, pushing metal up to the edge and over it. Then you flip the knife over and grind the metal toward the edge again, pushing the burr back and forth, until the new edge is formed.

A good starting point is always a medium-grit stone—somewhere between eight hundred and two thousand grits. (We’re going to start on a four-hundred-grit stone, but only because I want to do it quickly and I’m pretty adept at using stones.)

To start, make sure your stone is flat. This is important: the flatter the stone, the more even an edge you’re going to form. You can flatten your stone by grinding it with a diamond plate (the coarsest surface) or a more abrasive stone, moving in an X motion and some circle motions, adding a little water as needed. There needs to be a little bit of friction, so don’t overhydrate the stone—there shouldn’t be a pool of water on top. You want to smooth and level the top of the stone, but you also want to lower the edges a little bit. This helps the knife stay in contact with the stone as you sharpen it. Then you want to rinse it off.

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To begin sharpening your knife, start by putting a little bit of water on top of your stone. Again, you don’t want a pool of water on there, because you still need some friction.

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Hold the knife with your index finger on the spine, to help control the angle, and your thumb near the heel. Put the fingers of your other hand on the flat surface of the knife, just above the edge, and lightly press down to align the bevel with the stone.

A good trick for learning to properly align the blade is to draw along the edge of the knife with a Sharpie. Line the knife up on your stone and make a small movement. If there’s still Sharpie there, you’re not on the bevel. If there’s no more Sharpie, you’re on the bevel.

Everything is by touch and by sight. All you should be doing is keeping the blade in contact with the stone. The more even and consistent you are, the more finite of a point the edge is going to come to, and that means a more true edge, or a sharper edge. Make sure you have very good light to see what you’re doing and always use very light pressure. There are very few occasions when you should be using heavy or even mild pressure.

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Gently move the knife back and forth diagonally along the stone surface, making sure you get the entirety of the blade. Continue this motion until you feel a burr forming on the edge of the knife. Then flip the blade and move it back and forth along the length of the stone until you feel the burr move to the other side. Repeat these two motions until you’ve formed a new edge.

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Once you’ve done that, move to a finer-grit stone. You can’t just jump from something super coarse to something very fine. If you do that, you’ll never fully smooth out those very coarse scratch patterns.

Everything you do from here is just a repeat of what you’ve already done: find the bevel, create the burr, flip, and smooth out the scratch pattern. Continue sharpening until you’ve brought the edge to as finite a point as possible. If you’re still hearing little metal sounds as your drag the blade, you need to keep going.

FINISHING

Most people would just stop here, but I like to strop on leather and felt to clean up any excess metal and strengthen the edge a little bit. Basically you still have this little tiny piece of metal that’s sitting on the edge and your knife isn’t going to cut very smoothly if it’s there. As you increase the grit of the stones, the burr will get thinner and will be easier to remove. To remove it, I first draw the knife through the felt pad to grip onto the edge and pull off any little particles that might be on there. Then I strop against the smooth leather to help remove any little metal pieces or burr that might be sticking on the edge. Do not pull the knife into the leather—just use consistent, no-pressure motions that trail the edge of the knife along the strop.

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Always wanted to sharpen my own knives but never had the courage to do it myself for fear of ruining expensive knives. I take my knives to Korin in NYC and they do an amazing job even though its more expensive than I would like.

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Here, count me among those who say - just don't overthink it!

Yes, you need to get the hang of the technique. But most important - practise it. Craftsmanship and mechanical skills grow with doing it, not by awe-stricken reading about it or the fear of doing it wrong.

And maintain your knives regularly, instead of doing one "scientifically" planned and pedantically laid out session once in a while, but then forgetting your knives again for "three months", because it has been all so laborious... A good knive, you can't really destroy by improper grinding, you can always bring it back into good shape, once you know what you are doing.

The notion of the above, a bevel polished to the smoothest-honed mirror is not always best, I'd certainly support.

Ta for posting, Ken!

 

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 It's one of my amateurish hobbies, it's incredibly relaxing for me to sit down with a water stone and polish away for an hour or two. Finding your own technique that works for you seems the best advice to me. Over the hours you eventually find out what works and doesn't work for you.

It's such a relaxing thing, very tactile with water and stone

 

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The only thing I disagree with is that a knife can be "Too Sharp" I'll believe it f I ever see/feel it.  I use essentially the same methods he used above, this method(using larger stones) also works very well for my axes, and machetes. 

I have a huge collection of Knifes. Ranging from hand made Damascus steel with a Riendeer Antler grip (for opening my mail) to Gerbers and Spydercos  with High grade Carbon steel blades for camping/hunting trips, to two sets of "deconstructing" knifes for when those hunting trios turn successful.

Unfortunately I hate sharpening them, and still haven't learned to love it. While this method isn't the easiest or fastest, I feel its definitely the best. 

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I always hand wash my knives, never the dishwasher. I run the steel on them after every use and every so often I flip the blade and run a couple quick passed on the steel like I am trying to shave the steel. Keeps my Henkels as sharp or sharper than the day I bought them. Hunting Knives I treat differently since most have different steel quality and thickness than kitchen knives. I have typically followed Kens video for those. Good info. I guess for me the most frustrating is trying to find a decent stone that is perfect for want. I want and the length and width to be perfect for all my knifes and not take up a lot of storage room.

 

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1 hour ago, Hutch said:

Sharpie trick was new to me. But I can shave my face with my daily carry...obvoiusly disagreeing here that a knife can be too sharp. Yes, they get dull quicker with the extreme acute angle, but for me that's just part of maintenance. Few months pass where I don't check any blade I've used. My kitchen knives are honed every time I use them.

As a straight razor shaver, I'm gonna request video proof of this. ;)

Even a dull straight razor is exponentially sharper than a knife, and that dull razor will wreck your face.

 

 

 

 

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I have all the stones and spyderco ceramic sets. In the end I want sharp and fast and ended up with the ken onion belt sharpener. Gets my kitchen knives where I want them with out too much fuss.

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7 hours ago, Hutch said:

Sharpie trick was new to me. 

Works well for truing up a flat surface on your stone or baseplate on a plane for woodworking.

10 hours ago, Fugu said:

And maintain your knives regularly, instead of doing one "scientifically" planned and pedantically laid out session once in a while, but then forgetting your knives again for "three months", because it has been all so laborious...

Same goes for your leather goods and dress shoes/boots. A little maintenance and care significantly increases the life. 

 

Good stuff in this thread!

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Wicked Edge.  If you're serious about sharpening knives, it's the easiest way to sharpen and reangle your bevels, regardless of blade recurve.  Then just a simple strop between 'sharpenings'.

 

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On 8/20/2016 at 8:32 AM, Fosgate said:

I always hand wash my knives, never the dishwasher. I run the steel on them after every use and every so often I flip the blade and run a couple quick passed on the steel like I am trying to shave the steel. Keeps my Henkels as sharp or sharper than the day I bought them. Hunting Knives I treat differently since most have different steel quality and thickness than kitchen knives. I have typically followed Kens video for those. Good info. I guess for me the most frustrating is trying to find a decent stone that is perfect for want. I want and the length and width to be perfect for all my knifes and not take up a lot of storage room.

 

Gordon Ramsey doesnt just have tips for sharpening knives..

 

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Just watched the Ramsey sharpening vid. Jeebus!

First - your Japan and Chinese martensite high-carbon steels will thank you! This is the tool to be used with your soft high-alloy nickle chrome stainless steel knives. Ok for that. Never use a sharpening steel with your Hochos!

But: Please don't do it as he does! That's the typical layman's mistake most would do (dunno who he is, is he a professional cook or butcher or something? Slightly embarrassing to watch). It is not about "speed" it is about performing it correctly in a sensible way to achive the goal. Don't move the blade with a trailing edge over the steel. The cutting edge has to be moving ahead, i.e. towards you! Otherwise all what you'll produce is a nice large burr, which you repeatedly bend over to either side of the ridge. That is highly inefficient, produces a serrated edge and is costing more material than necessary. If done correctly, a few strokes across the steel will suffice.

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