StingMeadery Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 I have been offered some extremely rare cigars by a long time collector. Cohiba Sublimes Cohiba Double Coronas ...and several other rare sticks. PROBLEM He has kept them in a essentially a controlled lab Enviroment where he works and has realised after not seeing them for quite some time they have severely "dried out"... They are now in the process of exposure to increasing controlled increments of RH to bring them back to condition. My question is; Will this process fully recover them and bring back the cigars into their original condition or will something have "been lost" ...? They aren't cheap sticks so need your guys input and advice around rehydrating dried out sticks Could have been sitting dry for a year? TIA Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Stogiedude3 Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 Iffy??. A buddy brought me s couple Cohibas that were in dire need of himidifi ation. Ive had them in my humi all winter and im afraid there not going to come around. That would really be a shame if those cigars he is giving you would go to waiste. Those are some classics
finecigar Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 Do you have photos of the cigars? It is hard to say... If they are the real deal and have sat for a year or less I am sure you can slowly bring them back. They won't ever be the same but they surely would be half way decent. I've had shipments that were abroad lost in shipping for over a year without humidification and after time they smoked well with careful treatment. I would definitely not pay full price though, If I were you I would only consider an offer a 3rd of the price if authentic 2
Colt45 Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 Moisture content can be brought back. Essential oils which have been lost cannot. 3
CaptainQuintero Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 Iffy??. A buddy brought me s couple Cohibas that were in dire need of himidifi ation. Ive had them in my humi all winter and im afraid there not going to come around. That would really be a shame if those cigars he is giving you would go to waiste. Those are some classics Iffy-worrying A collector who doesn't look after his collection. TC- What sort of money is he asking for? If you are going to take a risk on potentially ruined cigars, he should take a risk on the price. Any idea how long they've been dried out?
StingMeadery Posted April 13, 2014 Author Posted April 13, 2014 Not sure how long they have been dried out. I think it was more of an accident than anything. I'm buying a sampler from him through a mutual friend, both are old aficionados and I believe the sticks will be genuine. Disturbing though as his collection is extensive and has 3 unopened boxes of Sublimes alone... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
ogus Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 I had two boxes of arid cigars and after 10 weeks of optimal environment were pretty palatable.
Skyfall Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 Moisture content can be brought back. Essential oils which have been lost cannot. Exactly what I was going to say!
mk05 Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 Well, people buy those Davidoffs in auctions and think they are great, so what do I know. If you like those, you'll like these. 1
Guest rob Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 No disrespect intended to the owner, but I would think "old aficionados" would know a thing or two about cigar storage.
Lotusguy Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 I certainly wouldn't pay full price... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
CaptainQuintero Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 Also, bear in mind that both the DC and Sublime are not too hard to still buy from retailers. Depending on how much the guy wants for the cigars remember that you can still get ones that have been stored properly for around 45-70 euro each 1
NJP Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 Sometimes old collectors pass on the hard lessons they learnt to new collectors.
Colt45 Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 Exactly what I was going to say! Well, people buy those Davidoffs in auctions and think they are great, so what do I know. If you like those, you'll like these. Not trying to be the "wet blanket", in my opinion, cigars, like even great wines, have finite lives. Throw in questionable storage, and that lifespan diminishes considerably. I've had the great opportunity to smoke truly vintage cigars - produced in Cuba, and clear Havanas, and to be honest, they tasted like moth balls smell. (which is not to suggest newer cigars would be at that point). So I guess it may depend upon what you're looking for. If it's to acquire rarities, I can kind of understand. If it's to acquire enjoyable cigars to smoke, I understand less. Also, bear in mind that both the DC and Sublime are not too hard to still buy from retailers. I'm not sure how much I'd trust it......
Smallclub Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 A "long time collector" who keeps extremely pricey cigars in a "controlled lab Enviroment" Anyway if they have severely dried out they're dead - not worth a penny IMHO. 1
BBS Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 Moisture content can be brought back. Essential oils which have been lost cannot. ....bingo. You can re-hydrate them, but for all intents and purposes they are of no value.
Bclass1 Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 ....bingo. You can re-hydrate them, but for all intents and purposes they are of no value. X2... Sublimes or not, this applies..
earthson Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 PASS! I learned everything I need to know about hydration issues when I lived in a cabin heated with a wood stove. Lost some nice cigars that NEVER came back. An old aficionado? Sounds like his slip is showing...
StingMeadery Posted April 13, 2014 Author Posted April 13, 2014 Thanks guys, all your replies have been epic in value. Trust in my BOTL judgement and will be passing on these. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
mk05 Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 Buy things you enjoy now, and age them yourself. Then you will know everything about each cigar you have. Nothing quite like that IMO. 1
Jimmy2 Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 Once the oils have dried up they will never be the same ...
nikesupremedunk Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 Buy things you enjoy now, and age them yourself. Then you will know everything about each cigar you have. Nothing quite like that IMO. Definitely agree. Some of the aged sticks I've bought haven't smoked as well as I believe they can. However, in this case there's no way to buy Cohiba DC or sublimes to age yourself but you can maybe purchase them privately from BOTL's instead of online merchants. Good call on passing these. As tempting as buying rare sticks at a discounted price sound, I wouldn't risk it either. Would rather do it right the first time and buy them from someone I trust if a chance comes up and pay a premium.
Lotusguy Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 At least he told you about their condition and didn't pull a fast one.
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