How Far Away Is A Cuban 60rg?

[polarbear]

With HSA moving into fatter cigars and consumers buying them (although I'm not really sure who is buying them, I'm yet to meet a CC lover who is prepared to smoked anything over 55rg), how long do you think it will be before HSA release a 60rg cigar?

My guess would be a Collection Habanos Book filled with 60rg sticks within a couple of years

Personally, I'm hoping the trend of 'bigger is better' does a 180 and things start shrinking again within 5 years, but I dont think i'll be holding my breath on that one...

What are thoughts from the more experenced members of the forum

[Jeremy Festa]

You are right on the money!

In 5 years, the trend will do a 180 and the ring gauges will start shrinking.

As bad as it sounds to hear, and say, it's what the kids want.

And by kids, I mean, the youths. And by youths, I mean the 18 to 30 bracket, the trendsetters, the hipsters, if I may.

Whatever is in fashion. By my personal accounts.

Cigars are about 5 to 10 years behind jeans. So...bring on the skinnies.

Stay tuned.

*edit: realistically, it has already started. I say 2 to 3 years max.

[dangolf18]

I don't see cuban cigars going beyond 56rg...aI mean there are no cuban vitolas that are beyond 56. However if the embargo is lifted, perhaps we'll see a US regional with 60+ lol.

[Andy04]

If the embargo is ever listed, Cohiba will no doubt produce Behike RE + Edicion Limitada measuring 70rg X 192 with a special quadruple cap and 5 separate bling bands that sell for USD 100 per stick.

Isn't that what the stereotypical US smoker wants...

[olotti]

I hope not because as the trend would say if you add a 60rg you get rid of the smaller rg and hedge your bet the 60 will sell. I'm amazed at the amount of domestics that are regularly producing 56, 60 and I've even seen a 70 out there.My question is who the hell smokes these things, but regardless as Habanos S.A. sees the trend and wants to conform more of our beloved smaller ring gauge cigars will disappear.

[garbandz]

No doubt Habanos is steering it's product lines toward the tastes of the US smokers.

Here in the US we are doing our traditional job of bolstering the economies of under-developed countries,through the humanitarian auspices of Switzerland.

[Natedog]

If the embargo is ever listed, Cohiba will no doubt produce Behike RE + Edicion Limitada measuring 70rg X 192 with a special quadruple cap and 5 separate bling bands that sell for USD 100 per stick.

Isn't that what the stereotypical US smoker wants...

No. It's not. And if cubas ring gauges have been growing, then who have they been growing for? It's clearly not the U.S.. Maybe other countries are liking larger ring gauges.

[polarbear]

No. It's not. And if cubas ring gauges have been growing, then who have they been growing for? It's clearly not the U.S.. Maybe other countries are liking larger ring gauges.

Embargo or not, the US is still one of the largest consumers of Cuban Cigars in the world.

I doubt its a market HSA wouldn't cater to

Also, you only have to look at the NC industry (that caters primarily to the US market) to see the the 60rg is a popular size. Lines that didn't offer a 60rg when they were launched are now haveing them added as a regular production line extension

There are lines with cigars that START at 60rg and go up fron there.

Why would these exist if there wasn't a call for them from the consumer?

[CaptainQuintero]

Let's face it, a significant proportion of cigar consumers are the willy waving crowd. They want big cigars with big flashy bands to show people they have 'made it'.

Havana is just supplying to the demands of our shallow culture imo

[Lotusguy]

Let's face it, a significant proportion of cigar consumers are the willy waving crowd. They want big cigars with big flashy bands to show people they have 'made it'.

Havana is just supplying to the demands of our shallow culture imo

This plus the Asian market goes gaga over the big sticks

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[Magpie]

As long ad you guys keep buying the lets say ' normal' rg cigars , the Habanos will continue to make them. I suspect though that there is a trend globally to fatter cigars , all markets. If you are sitting down once or twice a week to enjoy a cigar then why not something that you can savour longer.

[canadianbeaver]

Wait for it... The Behike Nub.

[Jeremy Festa]

Come on crew?

Seriously?

It will only take "insert well known rapper's name" to be seen on the cover of "insert name of well known trashy magazine" posing with a long, elegant skinny and all will be right with the world again.

Ye of little faith.

[Guest rob]

I saw this posted today - http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfeatures/show/id/17234

[canadianbeaver]

You know they are getting bigger when they call the ring gauge "girth".

[oliverdst]

I guess people talked about that when larger rings arrived for the first time.

Nowadays we are used to them (52?).

If there is a niche I think Habanos has to attend it.

[MadMax]

I don't see cuban cigars going beyond 56rg...aI mean there are no cuban vitolas that are beyond 56. However if the embargo is lifted, perhaps we'll see a US regional with 60+ lol.

A 60+ would be a NY/NJ Regional Release!

[sengjc]

This plus the Asian market goes gaga over the big sticks

No, not really true, our Regional was the Encantos, perhaps one of the thinner Regionals released to date.

[TiminBC]

I think they will resist as long as they sell there stock. Bigger cigars means less cigars. They will just raise there prices but not the size

[Natedog]

Embargo or not, the US is still one of the largest consumers of Cuban Cigars in the world.

I doubt its a market HSA wouldn't cater to

Also, you only have to look at the NC industry (that caters primarily to the US market) to see the the 60rg is a popular size. Lines that didn't offer a 60rg when they were launched are now haveing them added as a regular production line extension

There are lines with cigars that START at 60rg and go up fron there.

Why would these exist if there wasn't a call for them from the consumer?

I understand what your saying although I'm not sure how accurate your stats are regarding the U.S being one of the largest consumers of Cuban cigars. Maybe your right I don't know. But I can tell you from my experience that it is still a process to purchase Cuban cigars in this country. The problem that I have with th original statement was that it stereotypes Americans as Neanderthals that sit around only smoking telephone pole sized cigars and that is just not true. Although you do see more manufacturing adding larger ring gauge to there portfolios, it's still a very small percentage of the inventory in all of the b&m humidors I frequent.

[ramon_cojones]

Don't think a 60rg will ever happen nor am I worried about trivial things I'll continue to vote with my wallet.

[dangolf18]

How about a Texas RE...Cohiba Super Extra Gordito Especiales...90 RG x 9 1/4 inches long. Boxes of 2. $250 a box. Would sell like hot cakes.

[KoreanCowboy]

You are right on the money!

In 5 years, the trend will do a 180 and the ring gauges will start shrinking.

As bad as it sounds to hear, and say, it's what the kids want.

And by kids, I mean, the youths. And by youths, I mean the 18 to 30 bracket, the trendsetters, the hipsters, if I may.

Whatever is in fashion. By my personal accounts.

Cigars are about 5 to 10 years behind jeans. So...bring on the skinnies.

Stay tuned.

*edit: realistically, it has already started. I say 2 to 3 years max.

I've done quite a bit of informal research and talking to shop owners, it's actually the older crowd, 50 and up, that buys larger ring gauges. I would have to say because they think they're getting more for their money. I know when I started smoking I would buy Toro sizes because I felt like I was getting a better deal for my money. I'm semi thrifty so if I could get an extra inch of tobacco for just an extra dollar, I felt better about my purchase.

[Stanislaw]

A 60+ would be a NY/NJ Regional Release!

HAHAHAA!!! I can totally see that happening, brilliant..... And this is a depressing topic....

[Colt45]

I was a little surprised when they came out with the canonazo, the sublimes. Less surprised when they came out with the edmundo. No surprise when they came out with the bhk line. A sixty or larger would be no surprise for me at all.....