poorman Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Smoking a BRC as I type this. First off, bring on the flame throwers. They just don't have any flavor profile for me. Sort of a bridge between NC's and CC's. Guide me to a Boli with nuance please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpInSmoak Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 A staple for me....love them! Keep it simple. Bolivar PCs rarely disappoint. Some gold medals if you want to flash it up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverickdrinker Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Don't sweat it bro. Different folks for different folks. Your palate just likes other flavours better at this point in time. It's what makes this hobby so fun. Some marcas you will never like or understand. Others you will start to like and then not like them. Some you won't like and then all of a sudden you like them later on. Some will be timeless and favourites forever. As for flame throwers, this place isn't that type of forum. Lots of great debate and discussion, conducted with respect and integrity. As for bolivars in particular, I like the bolivar corona extras, Lonsdales, and pcs. I find they are good/great in a smaller ring gauge Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 BRC have really disappointed me lately with being underfilled, and many friends have said the same about BBF (my luck with these has been WAY better) you can't go wrong with the petit coronas, but if you're finding the profile of the marca isn't for you, try the SLR Regios! They are wicked things, and won't break the bank if you develop an addiction! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikesupremedunk Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Definitely understand some folks like/dislike certain smokes. I personally like Boli's because they offer a bold taste that's delivered in a creamy way if that makes any sense. If you can, try the Boli Simones, maybe it'll make you change your mind. One of my favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorman Posted July 24, 2013 Author Share Posted July 24, 2013 What exactly do you mean by "nuance"? Most of the other marcas tend to have a flavor distinction. These remind me of a strong NC. Meaning, at least for me, i pick a smoke by what I want to taste for the moment. Boli's seem to be just full on 'cigar', as in no real flavor distinction. I'd rather a Hoyo, Cohiba, Partagas, Monty or JL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyfall Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Boli PC, BBF, CE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3n Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Imo Bolivars need some years of age on them to develop sweetness and complexity. Might well be that the ones you smoked were much too young. Young Bolivars do not do it for me either, at least the ones I smoked. When they have 5 or even better 10 years on them... Heavenly! Great complexity, woody sweetness, with complex dark aromas and subtle spice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markmurase Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Before righting off Bolivar, try the Bolivar PC. They are a really good cigar and seem to be popular with a lot of FOH members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rob Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 A dud sample perhaps? If you haven't smoked many, I'd recommend not judging the whole marque and vitola on a sample or two. Mucho flavour and body in Bolivars in general - with of course the poorly manufactured ones being exceptions. (I had a box of under filled BBF that were crap!) Alternatively, could be like Art said, and they're just not your thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blakes Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Don't sweat it bro. Different folks for different folks. Your palate just likes other flavours better at this point in time. It's what makes this hobby so fun. Some marcas you will never like or understand. Others you will start to like and then not like them. Some you won't like and then all of a sudden you like them later on. Some will be timeless and favourites forever. x2 I also love the BBF and PC, staples in my humi, To be honest I like most of the vitolas in the marca, but like all marcas you can get your duds. I recently got hold of some aged Boli inmensas... and they were amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivalanation734 Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 The BRC and BPC are my two go-to sticks. So much flavor and they are great fresh or aged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ophidion Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 I like the smaller ring gauge bolivar. I feel that they are best represented when under 47rg. Also, the boli PC have been insanely good over the last two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papatrips Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Imo Bolivars need some years of age on them to develop sweetness and complexity. Might well be that the ones you smoked were much too young. Young Bolivars do not do it for me either, at least the ones I smoked. When they have 5 or even better 10 years on them... Heavenly! Great complexity, woody sweetness, with complex dark aromas and subtle spice. x2 especially with the BRC and BGM. I live on Bolis. My first BRC was a let down. I put them away and those 08s are fantastic now. The BPC are my favourite (was the BCE until they discontinued them) and I have never had a dud with them. The nice thing about the BPC is they are also great right out of the box. Give Boli another chance and hopefully the BRC was a dud. See if Rob can make you up a sampler that have a little age on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatFastard Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 My favourite marca by farI Love em all. BRC, BBF, BPC, BCJ, BGM, BCG. Never had a BCE... but if the history repeats.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramon_cojones Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 I've never had a boli that impressed me in my experience. I've had 10 year old bbfs, lonsdales, etc but the one that I liked was the alemania lancero. One of the marcas I don't purchase. Even had a few pcs recently and while I enjoyed smoking they weren't standouts, rascc over those every day of the week if you like big flavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZinZan Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 I too tried very hard to like bolivar but never got the taste profile. Tried BRC, BGM an BPC so far nothing. For the sake of comparison my favs marcas Ramon allones, hdm and partys Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stargazer14 Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 A few years ago I had a 3 yr old BBF that was an out-of-this-world experience. Reflect on it as one of the greatest smokes I ever had, will be hard to beat. On the other hand I went through a box of BRC's and never ordered another box, just didnt do the 'Boli' thing for me. So as others have said, don't give up, try some others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginseng Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 I'm a fan of the Bolivar marca in pretty much all its forms. The profile suits me and it provides a range of vitolas that cover a variety of smoking scenarios from the sparkplug Coronas Junior to the very enjoyable Coronas Gigantes. And, as noted, when the BBF is on, it can be a satisfying, ethereal experience. Wilkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cohiba007 Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 I'm with you. Not a fan of any Boli's. plenty of other CCs I enjoy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorman Posted July 24, 2013 Author Share Posted July 24, 2013 Imo Bolivars need some years of age on them to develop sweetness and complexity. Might well be that the ones you smoked were much too young. . Probably this ^^^ I have several boxes, and types of Boli, think I'll let them rest awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion21 Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Boli = Pure Bliss BRC are best from Tubos or get an HQ box from Rob BPC are amazing and potent for their size. BBF are my least favorite Gigantes need age, but the samples I have had were excellent. Boli RE's have been really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCgarman Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Have you tried the RASS? Same size as the BRC, totally different flavors. I agree with you in the fact that BRCs and even Partagas shorts tend to have very earthy deep flavors that remind me of some Nicaraguan cigars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulP Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Probably this ^^^ I have several boxes, and types of Boli, think I'll let them rest awhile. Just curious why you would buy several boxes of a marca you do not like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbone Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 BRC are very hit or miss in my experience. However, the PC usually meets expectations. Real meaty smoke for me, I call it a charred peppered steak smoke, medium-rare marbled ribeye. Is that considered a flavor profile? In my experience age refines it for me. Guess I'm eating steak tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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