ewipper Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Perhaps a cigar with a box that didn't say Habanos or Habana, for direct import here through another country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jnaube Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Then the price will be astronomical, but I like your choice! 6 bands seems fantastic... I'd like to see this on a Perlas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srbbones Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I would do a joint cigar with Willie Herrera using Cuban and non-Cuban tobacco of his choice. I would give his a couple years to come up with the blend he likes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onsto Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Nothing that I'd pick would be a massive commercial success. I'd love to see an RA 898 varnished, but there's a reason that doesn't exist anymore... For sales numbers I would create a JLP Double Corona at <$8 per stick, fancy up the band A LOT (some glitter and flash), add second band that would appeal to golfers ('Edicion St. Andrews' or something like that), then offer it for sale in 5ct cardboard sleeves and 25ct dress boxes. I would include one of those cigar clips that latches on to the side of a golf bag as a 'free gift' when you buy the box of 25, and a cheap cutter or punch with the 5ct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sactochris Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Then the price will be astronomical, but I like your choice! WORD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sactochris Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Partagas petit belicoso a la the p1 25 slb Another excellent choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion21 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 It would have to be Montecristo or Cohiba and targeted at the existing players, but also the emerging markets like China. Having said that I would also include the tastes of the US smokers because they do influence sales. This is a difficult exercise . . . After much thought my decision would to create a Montecristo Sublime and add it to the regular lineup. I would box it in cabs of 15 cigars priced at $15 a cigar. That would increase the number of boxes to 33,333, but I think I could sell them out because of the price point. The Sublime would attract all kinds of smokers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Twain Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Shaggy foot Monte Churchill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justmi Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Commercial blockbuster.......hmm Cohiba Petit Robusto (BHK52 be damned!). Give it a holographic band and start printing money. X2 - Its inevitable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puros Y Vino Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 So the question is what do we think would work vs what we want? My first instinct was a Behike Lancero. The BHK4010. (40RG, 10 inch length). Probably not gonna happen. The best chance for success is to stick to the Cohiba brand. It is on the lips and minds of even non smokers let alone us CC nuts. Something unique is required. The BHK's are big RG monsters. The Linea Classica has a lot of vitolas covered. The Maduro line, well...it's interesting but not a blockbuster. Affordability needs to be reasonable. The cigars should come in smaller packages with options to buy larger volumes. No fancy jars though. SLB all the way. The cigar should also be easily accessible. In that it's easy to find, it's not an LE , BHK line, etc. The cigar shouldn't be too big. Therefore, I present, the Cohiba Perfecto. (size 50 * 160mm) or something close. The key is to not make this a monster smoke. There is no perfecto vitola in the Cohiba family. Ever I believe. The band would be a modified 35th anniversary band as a straight cut band doesn't look right on a perfecto. Packaging would be a 5 count wooden dress box, similar to the E2. The other option a 25 count SLB. These would be placed in all channels. LCDH's, retailers, duty free shops around the world, etc. This has the branding on it's side. Very accessible purchase via many channels. Pricing for a 5 count would be an easy and affordable purchase for the casual smoker, the SLB is for the diehards. The size of the cigar puts it at 60+minutes smoke time. If the blend is done right, it could be a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roanoke Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 So the question is what do we think would work vs what we want? My first instinct was a Behike Lancero. The BHK4010. (40RG, 10 inch length). Probably not gonna happen. The best chance for success is to stick to the Cohiba brand. It is on the lips and minds of even non smokers let alone us CC nuts. Something unique is required. The BHK's are big RG monsters. The Linea Classica has a lot of vitolas covered. The Maduro line, well...it's interesting but not a blockbuster. Affordability needs to be reasonable. The cigars should come in smaller packages with options to buy larger volumes. No fancy jars though. SLB all the way. The cigar should also be easily accessible. In that it's easy to find, it's not an LE , BHK line, etc. The cigar shouldn't be too big. Therefore, I present, the Cohiba Perfecto. (size 50 * 160mm) or something close. The key is to not make this a monster smoke. There is no perfecto vitola in the Cohiba family. Ever I believe. The band would be a modified 35th anniversary band as a straight cut band doesn't look right on a perfecto. Packaging would be a 5 count wooden dress box, similar to the E2. The other option a 25 count SLB. These would be placed in all channels. LCDH's, retailers, duty free shops around the world, etc. This has the branding on it's side. Very accessible purchase via many channels. Pricing for a 5 count would be an easy and affordable purchase for the casual smoker, the SLB is for the diehards. The size of the cigar puts it at 60+minutes smoke time. If the blend is done right, it could be a winner. I think you'd have a real winner here: mass appeal, trading on Cohiba's reputation, wide marketing. Perfecto's aren't my preferred vitola, but hey, I'm not the only one smoking these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 It should be something based on regular production. There is a huge increase in interest for the size of Petit Robusto. And they already have many light and mild versions of Petit Robusto. Now there is a place and demand for something more powerful of this size - Partagas Petit Robusto. 1. Partagas is a Global Brand 2. Petit Robusto is perfect size for not very long smoke 3. PSD4 is already one of the most famous Robustos on the planet 4. Perfect spicy profile 5. The price. Since Partagas is not in Cohibas price range this should be very affordable and popular smokes. 6. You can use the same model of packaging as for Montes Petit Edmundo, means all possible presentations including tubos versions. Thats what I call blockbuster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winelover Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 60RG Cohiba Chubby (similar in size to the Zino or an über petit robusto) double banded of course. The ultra macho presentation and convenient smoke time will help achieve the sales targets. I picked on cohiba because it is my least favourite major marca and imo lacks class and has already been desecrated by over hyped marketing. If sales targets were not the overwhelming priority I like the idea of a monte churchill without any extra bands or flash boxes and in regular 25ct boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartagasIV Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 It should be something based on regular production. There is a huge increase in interest for the size of Petit Robusto. And they already have many light and mild versions of Petit Robusto. Now there is a place and demand for something more powerful of this size - Partagas Petit Robusto. 1. Partagas is a Global Brand 2. Petit Robusto is perfect size for not very long smoke 3. PSD4 is already one of the most famous Robustos on the planet 4. Perfect spicy profile 5. The price. Since Partagas is not in Cohibas price range this should be very affordable and popular smokes. 6. You can use the same model of packaging as for Montes Petit Edmundo, means all possible presentations including tubos versions. Thats what I call blockbuster. PSD#5 is now regular production... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coug28 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Trinidad Corona Gorda for me please. An ERDM CG would be a very close second. I liked the Behike in a 46 gauge suggestion that was mentioned before as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenMonkey Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Bolivar Coronas Extra. If the marketing guys think it will help, put it in a varnished box and put 6 bands on each cigar. Then the price will be astronomical, but I like your choice! Good point. What about this: sell it in either a 50 cab, or in a dress box. Can't fail, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnLimitada Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 This is a great exercise! For sales it would need to be either: 1) Monte 2) Cohiba 3) Partagas 4) RyJ or maybe 5) Upmann All of these have a ton of Violtas to choose from. I guess a Monte Robusto Maduro might get my vote. Maybe a robustos extra Maduro? Price it above the Edmundo and below the Cohiba Maduro (closer to the Edmundo). Boxes of 10s and 25s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anacostiakat Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 RA 898 varnished. Old school green and white band and varnished box. ^^^ This! Or maybe a Cohiba Sublime. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laficion Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 So the question is what do we think would work vs what we want? My first instinct was a Behike Lancero. The BHK4010. (40RG, 10 inch length). Probably not gonna happen. The best chance for success is to stick to the Cohiba brand. It is on the lips and minds of even non smokers let alone us CC nuts. Something unique is required. The BHK's are big RG monsters. The Linea Classica has a lot of vitolas covered. The Maduro line, well...it's interesting but not a blockbuster. Affordability needs to be reasonable. The cigars should come in smaller packages with options to buy larger volumes. No fancy jars though. SLB all the way. The cigar should also be easily accessible. In that it's easy to find, it's not an LE , BHK line, etc. The cigar shouldn't be too big. Therefore, I present, the Cohiba Perfecto. (size 50 * 160mm) or something close. The key is to not make this a monster smoke. There is no perfecto vitola in the Cohiba family. Ever I believe. The band would be a modified 35th anniversary band as a straight cut band doesn't look right on a perfecto. Packaging would be a 5 count wooden dress box, similar to the E2. The other option a 25 count SLB. These would be placed in all channels. LCDH's, retailers, duty free shops around the world, etc. This has the branding on it's side. Very accessible purchase via many channels. Pricing for a 5 count would be an easy and affordable purchase for the casual smoker, the SLB is for the diehards. The size of the cigar puts it at 60+minutes smoke time. If the blend is done right, it could be a winner. I like this one a lot,I really do !!!! Just great Frank, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puros Y Vino Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Great minds... It's all about the Benjamins. If the exercise is to bring in as much cash as possible, Cohiba is the brand you'd want to bank on. I'd like to see a return of the RA898 but one has to wonder, will the blend be the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbone Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Marketing 101. Leverage your brand to introduce new product to existing distribution. You guys do have it right, Cohiba is the the poster brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perla Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Not an easy question at all. The portfolio of Cohiba, Partagas, H. Upmann, Romeo Y Julieta, Bolivar is packed like choco-block. To launch a new product selling like hotcakes - not easy. My proposal: Cigar in the same size like Davidoff Yquem RG42 - 6" (152) in 3-4-3 boxes a bit smaller than a Corona Grande and a very elegant format or choosing the Britannicas format like in the RA Celestiales Finos RG46 - 5,4" (137) very elegant, extraordinary format and at least not a jawbreaker also in 3-4-3 boxes Smoking time should be 60+min. Strength from medium to full. The marca would be taaarraaaaaa The idea of boxes of 20 is very tempting. Besides all this, some very great ideas came up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steens Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Bolivar Coronas Extra. If the marketing guys think it will help, put it in a varnished box and put 6 bands on each cigar. x1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckSARTech Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 You have the reigns of HSA. For 2014 you have the sole vote on the one cigar you would introduce into the regular production lineup. To save your job however....assuming you can keep your hand out of the till....it needs to be a commercial blockbuster. That means 500,000 cigars a year production (20,000 boxes of 25 or other configuration) What would you select? How would you package it? Over to you Well, H S.A. haven't listened to us any other year.....so, sure, let's try again!!!! RA 898 varnished. Old school green and white band and varnished box. Agreed. This is one of my five thoughts. ...A Ramon Allones piramides (no.2 sized) with the old green label would be great, but I think I'd lose my job based on the sales quota Another hit, and one of my five as well. Trinidad Piramides (torpedo), - Old school Trini band, basic and simple, boxes of 12 and 24.... Hell yes. For the win, in 12-boxes for sales volume, but priced REALISTICALLY!!! And, my other two wild and crazy thoughts.... Diplomaticos robustos. In 10-boxes, or 50-cabs (yes, that's right - NO 25-boxes!), varnished boxes which actually have a cigar ribbon tied around the outside of the boxes, with the Diplomaticos logo silk-screened on the ribbon, and then an awesome gold wax-seal pressed onto the ribbon and box with the Diplomaticos logo. And LGC "roller series" corona gordas or robustos, packaged in special order jars (ornate, beautiful things, like the LGC RE Cuba jars) and then also in "refill" packs (simple cardboard boxes, but decorated with a similar LGC styling, containing a bundle of 10 or 25 cigars). You could order/get them not just by factory code, but by roller codes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonVivant Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Almost anything in a jar as RE will sell - (ERDM for Cuba, more LGC for Cuba or? Diplomaticos and QdO for France, RA for Middle East) Partagas Petit Salamones in rectangular boxes, like Charlottes of 25 - regular production Last thought: 25ct and 10 ct boxes of PLPCs with LCdH exclusivity? BHK 52s and BHK54s always work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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