Generational Tobacco Ban Has Officially Become Law In The United Kingdom (Updated)

[Yigal]

https://www.cigaraficionado.com/article/generational-tobacco-ban-likely-to-become-law-in-the-united-kingdom?lid=0g5ox1uejrzj

[SUP8333]

Will the world follow suit? Perhaps we might be the last generation to smoke these.
 

https://www.cigaraficionado.com/article/generational-tobacco-ban-likely-to-become-law-in-the-united-kingdom

[ha_banos]

If anyone wants to write to their MP 

https://useyourvoice.uk/

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[El Presidente]

30 minutes ago, SUP8333 said:

Will the world follow suit? Perhaps we might be the last generation to smoke these.

Tobacco black market here is now 50% of the market. 

It is 99% of the vape market. 

The biggest issue gangs/cartels have is how to launder the money. There are only so many Lambo's you can buy. 

Govt has managed to achieve this outcome over 14 years (tobacco) and 12 months (vapes). 

It takes a special kind of idiot.

 

[99call]

The kicker is Rishi is now buggering off to Cali, like everyone said he would, and he promised he wouldn't. Still it's always nice to leave a legacy behind...literally.

[dicko]

These arbitrary laws are so evil. Talk about discrimination - literally based on the year you are born! UK/AUS/NZ going down the sh#!ter. If things carry on as is we will see the first generation of outflows from "west" to "east" as people just say enough is enough to these insane laws. Already happening. 5-10 years I'm off to El Salvador/Costa Rica/Texas/UAE...you name it unless things reverse course.

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[JohnS]

U.K.’s Generational Tobacco Ban Moves to Final Stages

March 11, 2026 - Charlie Minato

On Monday, March 9, the United Kingdom’s Tobacco and Vapes Bill cleared the House of Lords, meaning it now enters its final stages before becoming law.

The bill, which has been in the works since 2022, is landmark legislation for how tobacco and vaping products are regulated throughout the U.K., headlined by the introduction of a generational ban.

Since its introduction, the bill has called for banning anyone born after 2008 from purchasing tobacco and vaping products in the U.K.

Oddly, that means that some people who are currently legally able to purchase tobacco and vaping products might lose that right in the future. Currently, the minimum age to purchase is 18, though the smoking age is 16 in England and Wales. That particular aspect was not by design and is more a testament to how long it has taken to pass the bill.

Other parts of the bill would set the stage for the potential banning of flavored products, plain packaging, and other restrictions on specific products like the size of vapes, though it’s unclear how many of those will survive the amendments stage that the bill now enters. This will happen in the House of Commons, the U.K.’s body of elected officials.

While the word “cigar” does not appear in the formal amendments from the House of Lords, cigars were mentioned on Monday. In the penultimate speech before the bill was passed by the House of Lords, Syed Kamall, who serves as the Conservative Party’s shadow minister for Health and Social Care, spoke about the potential impact on the U.K.’s cigar industry.

“I also pay tribute to my noble friend Lord Lindsay and other noble Lords who have consistently and cogently made the case for specialist tobacconists throughout this process,” said Lord Kamall. “These are small, responsible businesses serving adult consumers, some of whom travel specifically to London from all over the world to sample and purchase high-value hand-crafted cigars. These cigars are quite distinct and much less affordable than cigarillos and machine-made cigars that form part of the mass tobacco market this Bill principally targets. I hope the Government will continue to bear that distinction in mind as secondary legislation is developed.”

Kamall is a member of the Conservative Party, which is no longer in control of the government. This bill’s roots date back to Boris Johnson’s government, though it was formally introduced in 2023 when Rishi Sunak was prime minister.

Sunak’s decision to continue to advance the bill was met with more opposition from his own party than that of the Labour Party. Ahead of elections in 2024, Sunak tabled the bill, though after the Labour Party won the elections, the bill was quickly revived.

Kamall went on to mention that many of the consequential parts of the law will be done through subsequent legislation.

“It is on secondary legislation that I wish to sound a note of caution, because a very significant portion of the Bill’s practical effects will be determined not by what Parliament has already debated but by regulations yet to be laid. The rules governing vape descriptors, flavours, advertising restrictions and the designation of vape-free zones all remain to be settled by Ministers. That is a considerable degree of delegated power; it is power the Government have argued is necessary to allow them to collect the evidence.”

Cigar shops in the U.K. have argued that their businesses will become unintended victims of the new regulations, even though the justification for the law is largely rooted in youth usage, an issue that is not believed to be widespread in the U.K.

While generational tobacco bans have been debated throughout the world, they remain incredibly rare. New Zealand implemented one in January 2023, but it was repealed in March 2024. Last year, the Maldives enacted one.

Source: https://halfwheel.com/u-k-s-generational-tobacco-ban-moves-to-final-stages/464399/

[NYGuido]

Ahh yes, the democratic tradition of prohibiting adults from using a product simply because it might hurt someone who uses it unlawfully. 🤦‍♂️ 

[Lucas Buck]

I have been screaming the following at the top of my lungs to anyone and everyone since I was a teen. "Prohibition Doesn’t Work!!!" This is all theater. If you want to push tobacco in to the black/grey market as @El Presidente detailed above and cause so much more harm then go right ahead. I agree this is evil. These people by and large are not idiots. They are scum. They don’t care who they are hurting. We are surrounded by a bunch of #$&% clowns. 

[SirVantes]

4 hours ago, Lucas Buck said:

"Prohibition Doesn’t Work!!!"

Doesn't it? There's no longer lead in petrol, coke in Coke, asbestos in buildings, and perhaps most apposite, you can't smoke opium in the comfort of an opium den anymore.  

[riderpride]

How long until someone is arrested in the UK for posting a photo of them smoking in a foreign country? I imagine we'll soon be there too unfortunately. 

Cheers!

[SirVantes]

4 hours ago, riderpride said:

How long until someone is arrested in the UK for posting a photo of them smoking in a foreign country? I imagine we'll soon be there too unfortunately. 

Cheers!

In Singapore, you are prosecuted for smoking pot in a foreign country. Extraterritorial criminality is a thing. The rest of the world just needs to catch up 😄

On 1/23/2025 at 5:00 PM, dicko said:

These arbitrary laws are so evil. Talk about discrimination - literally based on the year you are born!

Isn't every ban based on the year you are born? If something is banned today, then anyone born tomorrow is "discriminated against". If you ban manual transmissions today, then anyone not old enough to hold a driving licence today is "discriminated against". The contrary position would mean you can never raise the retirement age, or minimum age for anything?

[Li Bai]

51 minutes ago, SirVantes said:

Doesn't it?  There's no longer lead in petrol, coke in Coke, asbestos in buildings, and perhaps most apposite, you can't smoke opium in the comfort of an opium den anymore.  

In a World where money is king, prohibiting big companies from doing cr*p is a matter of survival, as for hard drugs, well I guess it's debatable but it's different as there's no free will when you're an addict.

[SirVantes]

36 minutes ago, Li Bai said:

In a World where money is king, prohibiting big companies from doing cr*p is a matter of survival,

Big Tobacco is still pretty big, no?

36 minutes ago, Li Bai said:

as for hard drugs, well I guess it's debatable but it's different as there's no free will when you're an addict.

I think there's consensus that tobacco is addictive?

What I'm getting at is that my beef is with politicians generally politicians including cigars in legislation targeting cigarettes and vaping; but that doesn't mean I'm bound to make wider reaching arguments against any measure against cigarettes/vaping which I personally can't seem to sustain logically - any deficiency on that front is on me.

[Lucas Buck]

1 hour ago, SirVantes said:

Doesn't it?  There's no longer lead in petrol, coke in Coke, asbestos in buildings, and perhaps most apposite, you can't smoke opium in the comfort of an opium den anymore.  

My point is you can still get what you want regardless it’s legal standing. Along with that comes added death and destruction. No bueno. 

[Li Bai]

3 hours ago, SirVantes said:

Big Tobacco is still pretty big, no?

I think there's consensus that tobacco is addictive?

That's what I was saying, if there needs any prohibition it should be aimed at Big Tobacco. Their target is always the consumer but to my knowledge no official ever did anything to ban additives or whatever they put in modern cigarettes.

As for the "tobacco is addictive" part it's not as clear as you suggest. How many of us here are able to stop smoking cigars for weeks or even months during Winter like it's no big deal? Try doing that with hard drugs or cigarettes...

A cigar (let's say a robusto for the sake of the argument) contains more tobacco and as much nicotine as a whole pack of cigarettes so it's not that big a stretch to assume that cigarette makers added things over decades that made it the hardest drug to quit (according to recent studies). They're the enemy, not the consumer.

[BrightonCorgi]

4 hours ago, SirVantes said:

Doesn't it? There's no longer lead in petrol, coke in Coke, asbestos in buildings, and perhaps most apposite, you can't smoke opium in the comfort of an opium den anymore.  

Where have all the opium dens gone 😿?

[Lucas Buck]

23 minutes ago, Li Bai said:

That's what I was saying, if there needs any prohibition it should be aimed at Big Tobacco. Their target is always the consumer but to my knowledge no official ever did anything to ban additives or whatever they put in modern cigarettes.

Yes! Further proof they don’t care about our health. It’s not about that. It’s about control. It’s abuse of power. It’s a big middle finger to liberty, free will and self ownership.  

[BrightonCorgi]

2 hours ago, Lucas Buck said:

Yes! Further proof they don’t care about our health. It’s not about that. It’s about control. It’s abuse of power. It’s a big middle finger to liberty, free will and self ownership.  

Whoever said it's about our health? You're right, it's about control and all that comes with it.

[Ford2112]

Because. As kids we always did what we were told smh.

[JohnS]

It looks like this is in its final phases...

U.K. Bans Anyone Born After 2008 From Buying Tobacco Products

April 21, 2026 - Charlie Minato

After nearly five years, the United Kingdom’s landmark generational tobacco ban will soon become law.

On Tuesday, Parliament approved the Tobacco and Vapes Bill with some minor amendments, meaning that it has now moved onto the very last step of the process, the royal assent. Once approved by the monarch, the bill will become law.

In a monumental move, anyone born after 2008 will no longer be able to purchase tobacco and vaping products in the U.K., forever. This type of ban is known as a “generational tobacco ban” because it is aimed at making a tobacco-free generation.

In a weird quirk, because the bill has taken so long to pass, some people who are currently able to legally purchase tobacco products in the U.K. will lose that right after the bill goes into effect. Currently, the minimum age to purchase is 18, though the smoking age is 16 in England and Wales.

While there was some hope that specialty cigar retailers would receive some concessions, that did not happen. Instead, the approved amendments had to deal with how the new law would be implemented in Wales.

Full article: https://halfwheel.com/u-k-bans-anyone-born-after-2008-from-buying-tobacco-products/468763/

[Lucas Buck]

[ha_banos]

Excellent. No more 18 year olds in the sampling rooms. Noisy spotty little buggers. Get em out.

[Joeyjojo]

I now have the urge to live until I'm 200 just to hoard as many cigars as I can and smoke them in front of those that can't! 😆

[Hammer Smokin']

While I don't have kids, I do think about the future. Removing children's ability to smoke in the future is healthy. Just like removing their ability to be on Social Media before a certain age. While I appreciate I'm in the minority here, and rightfully so (a cigar board), I believe this is a good move, and would like to see Canada move towards the same. 

Yes, I understand how black markets work. But I also understand how the ease of accessing vapes makes it easier for young people to get addicted. There are more kids vaping today than smoking back in the 80s and 90s. Something needs to change.