The Comeback: 2004 Boston Red Sox

[MoeFOH]

A timely drop by Netflix . Don’t know if it’s been out longer in the States?

Anyhow, as a Sox fan I’ll happily take this trip down memory lane with a Soxless post-season going on. Ship of Fools, Team of Idiots … but will their incredible feat ever be repeated? 

Needless to say, I’ll be a temporary Dodgers fan over the WS. Even if it weren’t for the Yankees, Mookie and Dave would be enough to sway me. Should be a cracking series!! 

Who you got?

 

[JohnS]

ESPN brought out 'Four Days In October' in 2010, but that was a one-part documentary. This Netflix special is three parts, so I look forward to watching the participants going into more detail into this unique and historic postseason event.

[Corylax18]

The Red Sox Suck. Go Yankees.

P.S. Even as a life long Yankees fan, I love Big Papi. 

[DOYLE]

Sox fan here as well. I was living in Boston during that time, around the corner from Fenway park. It was such an electric time in the city!! I was also lucky enough to work for one of the major news stations in Boston at the time. I got to do some prep work for an interview with Tito, used my press pass to get into one of the games and one of my HS friends was on the BPD Bomb Squad was working the game so he snuck me in. 

I’m looking forward to the documentary. Interesting hearing players look back and talk about their experience now that they’re older. That Yankees Sox series was soooo good. 

I live in LA now so Dodgers are my 2nd team so I’ll root for them to win. My partner is a Yankees fan and is excited to go to Game 1, she’s obviously hoping for a Yankees WS championship.

[joeypots]

13 hours ago, Corylax18 said:

The Red Sox Suck. Go Yankees.

P.S. Even as a life long Yankees fan, I love Big Papi. 

The Comeback? All I can seem to remember about 2004 Yankees, who happen to suck out loud, were the authors of the greatest choke is professional sports history. Been a Massachusetts resident my whole life...

Let's leave the NY Giants and the NFL out of this particular discussion.

[JohnS]

I watched the first episode tonight, which goes for an hour and dwells mainly on the 2003 season. In a word, it was excellent and well worth your time to watch, just for the fact that the principle participants are there to offer their thoughts twenty years later. I look forward to the next two episodes this weekend.

[BoliDan]

21 hours ago, MoeFOH said:

A timely drop by Netflix . Don’t know if it’s been out longer in the States?

Anyhow, as a Sox fan I’ll happily take this trip down memory lane with a Soxless post-season going on. Ship of Fools, Team of Idiots … but will their incredible feat ever be repeated? 

Needless to say, I’ll be a temporary Dodgers fan over the WS. Even if it weren’t for the Yankees, Mookie and Dave would be enough to sway me. Should be a cracking series!! 

Who you got?

Damn right, Moe. I remember coming back to the Yankees. I was in Bean town when we won the last game against them. The horns honking to the theme of "Yankees suck" at 1am on Beacon and Mass Ave. It's forever seared in my brain. The championship was a bigger win than the World Series to me. Especially since the year before, Aaron Boone ended us in a devastating home run in the 11th inning. 

Yes! Mookie will always be one of my favorites. Trading him was stupid. I hope he gets the win. Go Dodgers!

19 hours ago, Corylax18 said:

The Red Sox Suck. Go Yankees.

P.S. Even as a life long Yankees fan, I love Big Papi. 

🤬

[Ford2112]

Papi and Manny were all roided up. Johnny Damon should have never cut his hair. They all looked like Captain Caveman on that team!

[KCCubano]

3 hours ago, Ford2112 said:

Papi and Manny were all roided up. Johnny Damon should have never cut his hair. They all looked like Captain Caveman on that team!

Didn't they do pregame shots of whisky? 

[JohnS]

For those of you who are 'cluey', what cigar is Gary Sheffield lighting up in his interview in Episode 2? To me, it may be a box-pressed HR500, the cigar he developed in 2016 with Rocky Patel.

[MoeFOH]

3 hours ago, JohnS said:

For those of you who are 'cluey', what cigar is Gary Sheffield lighting up in his interview in Episode 2?

I'm more interested in what Millar was smoking... is smoking 

The team aside, it's pretty amazing what Theo Epstein did in those years, thrown in at the deep end at such a young age. Really enjoyed his comments and insights, too. Overall, great doco, I thought. Helps to be a Sox fan, of course. 

[wjs]

I was at games 1 & 2 of the Series. It wasn't until close to the 7th inning that everyone finally got over beating the Yankees and locked in to the face we were in the freaking World Series. It was a sweep so I was able to stay for the parade but I did have tickets to game 7, should it have been necessary on Halloween. That would have been something!

 

[wjs]

9 hours ago, JohnS said:

I watched the first episode tonight, which goes for an hour and dwells mainly on the 2003 season. In a word, it was excellent and well worth your time to watch, just for the fact that the principle participants are there to offer their thoughts twenty years later. I look forward to the next two episodes this weekend.

Aaron f'ing Boone. Even my Yankee friends had to call in a welfare check on me after that one. I was so broken I even cursed at Dave Roberts for stealing that bag in Game 4 cause I was sure it was just a new way to break my heart. 

[JohnS]

1 hour ago, wjs said:

Aaron f'ing Boone. Even my Yankee friends had to call in a welfare check on me after that one.

What was worse was that it was hit off Tim Wakefield. He was nigh on unhittable during the 2003 postseason.

[Corylax18]

13 hours ago, joeypots said:

Let's leave the NY Giants and the NFL out of this particular discussion.

Hey, You brought them up. I happen to be a Giants fan too. Was the Yankees collapse worse than the 18 wins, 1 GIANT losing collapse by the Pats? 

 

[Hoepssa]

Just watched this yesterday. I love how Grady Little reacted when asked about the 2003 ALCS G7 collapse. It was his fault to play Pedro one more inning, so he's sacked. 

[joeypots]

16 hours ago, Corylax18 said:

Hey, You brought them up. I happen to be a Giants fan too. Was the Yankees collapse worse than the 18 wins, 1 GIANT losing collapse by the Pats? 

One quarter of Superbowl football certainly can not be compared to four straight losses after three wins in the ALCS. 

All kidding aside, I have immense respect for Joe Torre teams he managed. The Red Sox were such an epic  disappointment for so very long that any fan should be entitled to offer some good natured ribbing to NYers for the collapse of ’04. 

Let’s leave the issue of salary caps out of this particular discussion.

[Ken Gargett]

oh please!!! you want a comeback? you want a miracle? 

Washington - granted they should have put the game away much earlier - suddenly find themselves down three with almost no time left. can they get close enough for a field goal? no. 

70 yards out and literally two seconds to go and Daniels gets chased for 13 seconds before off goes the pass. 

NEVER IN DOUBT! 

HAIL. 

[JohnS]

3 hours ago, Ken Gargett said:

oh please!!! you want a comeback? you want a miracle? 

Washington - granted they should have put the game away much earlier - suddenly find themselves down three with almost no time left. can they get close enough for a field goal? no. 

70 yards out and literally two seconds to go and Daniels gets chased for 13 seconds before off goes the pass. 

NEVER IN DOUBT! 

HAIL. 

Ken, they beat the Chicago Bears...not the Kansas City Chiefs or Buffalo Bills. You evidently do not comprehend here that the Boston Red Sox defeated the New York Yankees after been 3-0 down in a 7 game series. They came back to win the next four in a row. That has never been done before in a baseball postseason series and has not been repeated since.

Furthermore, the Yankees at that point had featured in six World series since 1996. Seriously...six! Now, if I was Rob Ayala I would counter your post but stating that your assertion here is idiotic, but since I'm not, I won't. 

Since I am John and I have a particular reputation to enhance on this forum, I would counsel you to calm the hell down. Additionally, feel free to start another thread espousing how wonderful the Washington Commanders NFL team is this season. 

As Ringo would say, love and respect, Ken dear friend!

[Ken Gargett]

32 minutes ago, JohnS said:

Ken, they beat the Chicago Bears...not the Kansas City Chiefs or Buffalo Bills. You evidently do not comprehend here that the Boston Red Sox defeated the New York Yankees after been 3-0 down in a 7 game series. They came back to win the next four in a row. That has never been done before in a baseball postseason series and has not been repeated since.

Furthermore, the Yankees at that point had featured in six World series since 1996. Seriously...six! Now, if I was Rob Ayala I would counter your post but stating that your assertion here is idiotic, but since I'm not, I won't. 

Since I am John and I have a particular reputation to enhance on this forum, I would counsel you to calm the hell down. Additionally, feel free to start another thread espousing how wonderful the Washington Commanders NFL team is this season. 

As Ringo would say, love and respect, Ken dear friend!

now john, i might have to insert commanders posts in every thread!!

what about whatever her name is - barbie bartlett? in the US open, she is down 6-0, 5-0 40-0. saves about twenty match points. and wins the game. coming back from 3-0 down is a bit luke warm comparted to that. sure, all great achievements. 

i always liked keiran perkins comeback to win the 1500 metres in Atlanta. so crook, he missed the selection trials for 200 and 400, and then just managed to get the last spot for the 1500. could not train for weeks. in the heats, scraped in by a few hundredths of a second he was so worn out. stuck in lane 8. given no chance. and then puts in one of the all time great swims out of nowhere to win the gold by 15 or 20 metres. all depends on how you want to define these things. 

but...

remember that the bears had won their last four or something like it. have the number 1 QB pick. we had 20 seconds and only half a time out to go the length. woohoo! i am starting to think we'll be in the playoffs but i still don't believe that we'll go far. next year, a serious contender but i still don't see it. year after, the start of the dynasty!! 

chiefs, fair enough. but the bills? seriously? they are only 6-2, same as us. sure, a good team but when it comes to superbowls, they are the Wile E Coyote of the NFL. they will find a way to have that rock drop on them. superman is more comfortable with kryptonite than the bills are with superbowls. no team goes into the foetal position quite as quickly as the bills when you mention superbowls. expect perhaps the Vikings. 

[Ardan]

It felt like an extended version of the ESPN 30:30 feature, but it was awesome nonetheless. I laughed the hardest in episode 1 when they asked players about the legend that the players went to a bar across the street after the end of one of the playoff series. Varitek and two other players deny or pretend they don't know what the interviewer is talking about. Then Kevin Millar comes out confirming it all!