Mexico — New Smoking Rules

[Dwamon]

When I booked my Mexico, all-inclusive, 5 day spring break trip with wife, smoking areas wasn’t one of my concerns. It seems the new laws came into this smoking in public.

The resort where we are currently staying, which I won’t name, had a bar that seemed perfect and true to our cause. Read this description:

“When Prohibition took hold, the thirsty took off. Many of the best bartenders left for Cuba and the vibrant lure of its nightlife, triggering a Cuban cocktail renaissance. There was glamour, plenty of local rum, and world-class cocktails. Palmera Lounge picks up where this intoxicating storyline leaves off: a new take on the classic, high-energy Cuban clubs of the 40s with expertly crafted cocktails, bright, inviting design, and boisterous live entertainment.” (A bit over the top but they still have a wasted outside deck with couches on the water and used to have cigar roller from what I hear)

But now I have been relegated to this small section of the beach with 8 chairs...

 

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[helix]

On a resort vacation with no proper smoking venue is a big deterrent for a lot of folks. Personally made my choice between Mexico and the DR 

(Cuba just not in the cards right now) easy . 

[anthem]

On a resort vacation with no proper smoking venue is a big deterrent for a lot of folks. Personally made my choice between Mexico and the DR 
(Cuba just not in the cards right now) easy . 

Agreed, I was considering a place in Mexico, but when I read about all the restrictions, including no smoking on the balcony, I decided to go back to Punta Cana. The resort in DR that we have been going to even has a nice cigar lounge .


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[Ford2112]

I hear you can still smoke in Juarez.

[amberleaf]

We will be going to the DR this year for this very reason despite the latter being a bit cheaper. Thousands dying from gang and cartel violence every year but cracking down on smoking is apparently the main priority for the Mexican government.

Was in Jamaica last year and while some new restrictions have been introduced since our last visit, like no smoking on balconies or near the pool, we could still smoke on the beach as long as we weren't bothering anyone.

 

[Lunettesman]

Went on a 3 weeks holiday in Yucatan with my usual 24ct cigar case filled. It came back with 22 sticks. Couldn't bother smoking like a outlaw on a wooden chair at the back of the resort. 

[Dwamon]

Days later I have learned the beach is federal property so have done all my cigar smoking there. Only problem is having to brush off the “want some weed” guy every 30 mins.


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[CigarCulture09]

On 4/2/2024 at 8:46 AM, helix said:

On a resort vacation with no proper smoking venue is a big deterrent for a lot of folks. Personally made my choice between Mexico and the DR 

(Cuba just not in the cards right now) easy . 

Cigarettes are obviously the cause of smoking bans worldwide. It is a total shame that cigars got mixed in with cigarettes. Two completely different products. One is an addiction while the other which we all love and enjoy is a lifestyle, hobby, community, history, tradition and relaxation.

[Li Bai]

8 hours ago, CigarCulture09 said:

Cigarettes are obviously the cause of smoking bans worldwide. It is a total shame that cigars got mixed in with cigarettes. Two completely different products. One is an addiction while the other which we all love and enjoy is a lifestyle, hobby, community, history, tradition and relaxation.

Are they really ? Let me get this straight...

Cigarettes with additives as we find nowadays should have never existed (see "The cigarette papers" , Stanton Glanz) but their story begins with cigars, people who worked in tabacaleras couldn't afford the cigars they rolled so they took residues of leaves and rolled them in newspaper to smoke them. At the time those cigarettes were all natural and not the poison we know today (natural cigarettes still exist but their sales are quite confidential).

To me the real problem is the cigarette industry as a whole (they don't even disclose what additives are used) so why aren't additives banned for good? I've smoked cigarettes as well as cigars for 20 years and I've enjoyed it, it provides a short break and a quick relaxation, no cigar can do that. I've quit cigarettes and if I'd had to choose earlier, I would have chosen cigars but shouldn't we be free to do whatever we want to do as long as it doesn't affect others? Of course I understand those who don't smoke and can't stand the smell but all it takes is a little common sense from us smokers and it's a win-win.

Smoking cigars or smoking cigarettes comes with health risks we are all aware of but we're supposed to be grown-ups so the whole worldwide ban thing is just the insufferable child of the modern hygienic ideology...

What's next ? Wine? Spirits? What about fat and carbohydrates? Should we ban motorcycles? Where does it stop? There comes a time when they will forbid us smoking at home...

[PigFish]

… show them a ‘coyote’ concert bracelet and an old set of tennies, ask them which way to the US and you can do anything you want…

That holds for the US too, by the way!🤪

[BrightonCorgi]

11 hours ago, Li Bai said:

What's next ? Wine? Spirits? What about fat and carbohydrates? Should we ban motorcycles? Where does it stop? There comes a time when they will forbid us smoking at home...

If it was about health care costs, we should ban sports. Sports related injuries are a high cost to the healthcare system.

[Hammer Smokin']

Banning motorcycles? closer than you think. We are ready to set a bylaw that states they cannot be driven during the period of time when there is low noise bylaws. (So 10pm until 7am). 

Not the end of the world you'd think. Not so. 

Motorcycle drivers are losing their minds, and have taken to ripping around the city after 10pm to voice their displeasure. 

[Ford2112]

I'm all for less government. 

[Hammer Smokin']

Lots of people are, yet live in government controlled places, instead of moving to places without governmental control. As a result most of the less government people are really just hot air people. Don't want government, but don't want to live where there isn't government. Humans are the best!

[Ford2112]

4 hours ago, Hammer Smokin' said:

Lots of people are, yet live in government controlled places, instead of moving to places without governmental control. As a result most of the less government people are really just hot air people. Don't want government, but don't want to live where there isn't government. Humans are the best!

With a little ingenuity and some elbow grease one can minimize the impacts. That's why I'm buying this to travel in for a few years while my health is good.

[Hammer Smokin']

Well, I guess that's an option. 

[Ford2112]

I mean. I still have to pay for gas. Registration and insurance. My next move will to go all Jeremiah Johnson and eat squirrels and sich up in them mountains.

 

[SCgarman]

6 hours ago, Hammer Smokin' said:

Banning motorcycles? closer than you think. We are ready to set a bylaw that states they cannot be driven during the period of time when there is low noise bylaws. (So 10pm until 7am). 

Not the end of the world you'd think. Not so. 

Motorcycle drivers are losing their minds, and have taken to ripping around the city after 10pm to voice their displeasure. 

I have a Honda Goldwing touring bike. They are very quiet, unless you choose to modify the exhaust system. No motorcycle bans here in Myrtle beach. We have three different bike weeks, and it brings in huge tourism $$$.

[CigarCulture09]

15 hours ago, Li Bai said:

Are they really ? Let me get this straight...

Cigarettes with additives as we find nowadays should have never existed (see "The cigarette papers" , Stanton Glanz) but their story begins with cigars, people who worked in tabacaleras couldn't afford the cigars they rolled so they took residues of leaves and rolled them in newspaper to smoke them. At the time those cigarettes were all natural and not the poison we know today (natural cigarettes still exist but their sales are quite confidential).

To me the real problem is the cigarette industry as a whole (they don't even disclose what additives are used) so why aren't additives banned for good? I've smoked cigarettes as well as cigars for 20 years and I've enjoyed it, it provides a short break and a quick relaxation, no cigar can do that. I've quit cigarettes and if I'd had to choose earlier, I would have chosen cigars but shouldn't we be free to do whatever we want to do as long as it doesn't affect others? Of course I understand those who don't smoke and can't stand the smell but all it takes is a little common sense from us smokers and it's a win-win.

Smoking cigars or smoking cigarettes comes with health risks we are all aware of but we're supposed to be grown-ups so the whole worldwide ban thing is just the insufferable child of the modern hygienic ideology...

What's next ? Wine? Spirits? What about fat and carbohydrates? Should we ban motorcycles? Where does it stop? There comes a time when they will forbid us smoking at home...

I’m not advocating for banning cigarettes. Natural cigarettes are definitely not what I was referring to either. I absolutely despise cigarettes. However if someone wants to smoke cigarettes or use any other product for that matter they have the right to do so. It seems that you interpreted what I said, as me, supporting the banning of cigarettes, which couldn’t be further from the truth. We actually agree on this issue. Again cigarettes and cigars are two completely different products. Lastly I sure hope they don’t ban wine LOL. 

[Li Bai]

7 hours ago, CigarCulture09 said:

I’m not advocating for banning cigarettes. Natural cigarettes are definitely not what I was referring to either. I absolutely despise cigarettes. However if someone wants to smoke cigarettes or use any other product for that matter they have the right to do so. It seems that you interpreted what I said, as me, supporting the banning of cigarettes, which couldn’t be further from the truth. We actually agree on this issue. Again cigarettes and cigars are two completely different products. Lastly I sure hope they don’t ban wine LOL. 

It wasn't directed to you actually, I'm just fed up with cigarette smokers being stigmatised all over the world.

So the hundreds of millions of people who smoke cigarettes are just plain stupid? It seems like a big shortcut to me...The cigarettes manufacturers have made it a poisonous product since the 50's, nearly impossible to quit (recent studies show it's the most difficult drug to quit) and the different government responses to the situation is smoking bans, tax raising and plain packaging.

Not a single measure directed to the real villain here, the industry itself. I'm not advocating for cigarettes (I've come to despise them myself), I'm just saying letting an industry do whatever it wanted with its customers for decades and then try to solve it by bullying those who suffered directly from our inaction in the first place is a dirty move imho.

Oh and a little something one might want to reflect upon too...if cigarette smokers are addicted because of the nicotine, then why aren't we addicted to cigar or pipe smoking? Isn't there any nicotine in our beloved sticks? 

[BrightonCorgi]

13 hours ago, SCgarman said:

I have a Honda Goldwing touring bike. They are very quiet, unless you choose to modify the exhaust system. No motorcycle bans here in Myrtle beach. We have three different bike weeks, and it brings in huge tourism $$$.

My dad and his brother were both Goldwing owners!