Popular Post Ford2112 Posted May 17, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 17, 2023 I dropped the poor La Fuerza,TWICE. Did my utmost to repair it with cigar glue . It has sat in my humidor for months. I figured I would smoke this morning and call it a loss at the worst . Frankencigar! Turns out I got a good 45 minutes of Fuerza Flavor, albeit not the best draw. Cigar glue and a perfect draw can save the day. In this case it saved at least a good portion of this thing before I pitched it! 10
Popular Post Chibearsv Posted May 17, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 17, 2023 2 drop scenario for me: I drop one, pick it up, drop it again, scream in rage, pick it up again, and then crush it like it's a stress-ball. Then I get a different cigar. I have issues. 😁 5
Popular Post NSXCIGAR Posted May 17, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 17, 2023 There's not much glue can't fix. I use so much of it it was getting expensive so make my own with gum arabic. Worst case I'll use some wrapper leaf from some smoked cigars and wallpaper over the damaged cigar. Never not had that work. 3 3
Ford2112 Posted May 17, 2023 Author Posted May 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, NSXCIGAR said: There's not much glue can't fix. I use so much of it it was getting expensive so make my own with gum arabic. Worst case I'll use some wrapper leaf from some smoked cigars and wallpaper over the damaged cigar. Never not had that work. That's a good idea using wrapper from another cigar. I'll look into the gum arabic.
fokker4me Posted May 17, 2023 Posted May 17, 2023 Can't say I've ever used cigar glue probably should be something I should try. I usually end up smoking them as much as I can even when I drop them or break them.
puromaniac Posted May 17, 2023 Posted May 17, 2023 Geez @Ford2112 I think you jinxed me. Just minutes before I saw your thread I dropped my La Punta. Pretty bad damage to the head but still smokable, albeit with little pieces on my lips as I smoke it. 2 1
Popular Post NSXCIGAR Posted May 18, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 18, 2023 5 hours ago, Ford2112 said: That's a good idea using wrapper from another cigar. I'll look into the gum arabic. I'll use wrappers from butts. I look for particularly thin ones on 48+ RG cigars. Slice it with a razor near the bottom and peel. You should get a nice piece about 1" x 2". Pretty good sized bandage. Apply glue only to the cigar. I've had cigars cracked all the way up through the binder that I fixed with just wrapper patches like that. As far as the gum arabic a 1oz bag is $7 or $8 and lasts like 10 years. I prefer gum arabic to pectin as the pectin leaves more of a crusty white residue. I reuse the PerfecRepair bottles. They already have the little mixing balls in there. Dump a little powder in, add distilled water and mix until syrup viscosity. 5 1
Greenhorn2 Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 Cigar glue will fix dang near any cigar. I had a 3 pack of Cohiba PE's that came in totally destroyed. Glued them up the best I could and they were marvelous. 1
Popular Post Connoisseur Kim Posted May 19, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 19, 2023 I recently bought a PerfecRepair cigar glue and it managed to save all of my wounded cigars (4 Monte 1s and 1 Punch Mantua) 👍. Of course, you can make a DIY cigar glue with Gum Arabic or Gum Tragacanth for long term use too as @NSXCIGAR said, but I can say that cigar glues including PerfecRepair are very useful for fixing any damaged cigars. 4 1
Ford2112 Posted May 19, 2023 Author Posted May 19, 2023 22 hours ago, Connoisseur Kim said: I recently bought a PerfecRepair cigar glue and it managed to save all of my wounded cigars (4 Monte 1s and 1 Punch Mantua) 👍. Of course, you can make a DIY cigar glue with Gum Arabic or Gum Tragacanth for long term use too as @NSXCIGAR said, but I can say that cigar glues including PerfecRepair are very useful for fixing any damaged cigars. Nice job. Yeah the cigar glue has saved my bacon more than once! 1
Connoisseur Kim Posted May 19, 2023 Posted May 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, Ford2112 said: Nice job. Yeah the cigar glue has saved my bacon more than once! Much agreed @Ford2112! When I was new to CCs, I thought cigar glue wasn't necessary until I encountered damaged cigars (the most severely damaged cigars I've ever seen in my life was Monte 1935 Dumas as the wrapper kept peeing from its foot to head like a cylindrical gift wrap). I feel glad that now I can swiftly fix wounded cigars as long as I have a cigar glue.
NSXCIGAR Posted May 19, 2023 Posted May 19, 2023 I started making it because it was getting very expensive. They've lowered the price a few bucks but PerfecRepair costs $10+ and I was going through a bottle every 2 or 3 months. Also I don't know if anyone else experiences this but it seems to evaporate out of the bottle no matter how tight the cap is. I swear every time I pick it up there's less in it than when I put it down. I also don't like the white crusty residue the PerfecRepair leaves. The base ingredient is some kind of pectin and the gum arabic leaves far less residue. The stuff is essential in my opinion. If there's even a 1-2mm hairline crack in a wrapper halfway up you know the wrapper is just going to explode when the burn gets there. Just dab a little glue on it and it'll hold together. Badly cracked foot, just glob it on and it won't split further after lighting. 2 1
shokao Posted May 19, 2023 Posted May 19, 2023 Perfect Draw and Perfect Repair glue are mandatory to keep your cigars in the best shape possible. A friend brought me some Diplomaticos from his trip to Argentina and they were all damaged. Some cracked, some peeling it was a disaster. I've just used the cigar glue in all of them and they are brand "new". I mean, the asthetic aspect of it can't change but they smoke flawless after repair and for me it's all the matters. 1
hrs1 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 Another one bites the dust Time to pick up some glue 🤦♂️ 1
Ford2112 Posted May 20, 2023 Author Posted May 20, 2023 6 hours ago, hrs1 said: Another one bites the dust Time to pick up some glue 🤦♂️ 1
NSXCIGAR Posted May 21, 2023 Posted May 21, 2023 9 hours ago, hrs1 said: Another one bites the dust Easily fixable. You don't even need a wrapper graft for that one. Lift the flap and liberally apply the glue to the cigar only. Then dab a little at the top of the split to avoid any running or bursting. I'd also remove the band and hit that crack above it. It probably runs below the band and that will cause a burst in the final third as heat starts to creep close to it. 1
Ford2112 Posted May 21, 2023 Author Posted May 21, 2023 13 hours ago, hrs1 said: Another one bites the dust Time to pick up some glue 🤦♂️ Come to think of it that cigar's toast. Send it to me I'll see what I can do. 1 2
gustavehenne Posted May 21, 2023 Posted May 21, 2023 On 5/19/2023 at 7:48 AM, NSXCIGAR said: I started making it because it was getting very expensive. They've lowered the price a few bucks but PerfecRepair costs $10+ and I was going through a bottle every 2 or 3 months. Also I don't know if anyone else experiences this but it seems to evaporate out of the bottle no matter how tight the cap is. I swear every time I pick it up there's less in it than when I put it down. I also don't like the white crusty residue the PerfecRepair leaves. The base ingredient is some kind of pectin and the gum arabic leaves far less residue. The stuff is essential in my opinion. If there's even a 1-2mm hairline crack in a wrapper halfway up you know the wrapper is just going to explode when the burn gets there. Just dab a little glue on it and it'll hold together. Badly cracked foot, just glob it on and it won't split further after lighting. Very interesting and many thanks for the tip. Whenever I've had a hairline crack in a cigar I've tended to 'just go for it' rather than repair and c40% of the time it will burn right through, 60% it will go crazy in some way or another and destroy the smoke. I'll definitely try the gum arabica fix next time. That being said, do you have a theory around what will make it explode/go crazy vs. just burn through the hairline crack?
NSXCIGAR Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 22 hours ago, gustavehenne said: That being said, do you have a theory around what will make it explode/go crazy vs. just burn through the hairline crack? That's a good question. I don't know for sure but in my experience it doesn't happen unless the wrapper is compromised in some way. My guess would be that the binder is always exerting pressure outwards. The wrapper is essential to keeping everything together. I suppose this makes a little sense as the wrappers are applied immediately after the cigar comes out of the mold. It's possible that the cigar begins expanding somewhat after the pressure of the mold is released so the wrapper would always be experiencing this pressure from the expansion of the filler/binder. When the bulge and explosion happens it always seems to be emanating from the binder pushing the wrapper outwards. The instances where there's no visible wrapper imperfection may just be impossible to see, i.e. there is some wrapper integrity issue but it can't be seen like it's overly thin in that spot. As far as whether rH conditions play a part I suppose theoretically yes but in my estimation anything but extremely humid conditions would prevent it from happening--conditions that would not be conducive to smoking. And the burn itself is going to make the area extremely dry. 1 1
gustavehenne Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 2 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said: That's a good question. I don't know for sure but in my experience it doesn't happen unless the wrapper is compromised in some way. My guess would be that the binder is always exerting pressure outwards. The wrapper is essential to keeping everything together. I suppose this makes a little sense as the wrappers are applied immediately after the cigar comes out of the mold. It's possible that the cigar begins expanding somewhat after the pressure of the mold is released so the wrapper would always be experiencing this pressure from the expansion of the filler/binder. When the bulge and explosion happens it always seems to be emanating from the binder pushing the wrapper outwards. The instances where there's no visible wrapper imperfection may just be impossible to see, i.e. there is some wrapper integrity issue but it can't be seen like it's overly thin in that spot. As far as whether rH conditions play a part I suppose theoretically yes but in my estimation anything but extremely humid conditions would prevent it from happening--conditions that would not be conducive to smoking. And the burn itself is going to make the area extremely dry. Very interesting and seems like good reasoning. I just smoked a Vegas Robaina RE Suiza that was very generously gifted to me. It had a wrapped and binder crack but luckily it burnt straight through!
Shrimpchips Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 There was a post a while back where somebody basically rewrapped a cigar with rolling papers (or so I remember it that way). Due to being careless, I’ve dropped my fair share of cigars, and usually a dab or two of cigar glue and a bit of rest seems to do the trick. @NSXCIGAR do you store your glue in the humidor? I’ve had the same bottle for a number of years now kept in the humidor (well, tupperdor) and it doesn’t seem to be drying up at all.
NSXCIGAR Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Shrimpchips said: @NSXCIGAR do you store your glue in the humidor? I’ve had the same bottle for a number of years now kept in the humidor (well, tupperdor) and it doesn’t seem to be drying up at all. No, I don't. But my ambient rH is about 65% year round. I never checked to see if I was losing any without having opened the bottle in a while or if it was related to the frequency of opening it. 1
Popular Post GoodStix Posted January 27, 2024 Popular Post Posted January 27, 2024 @NSXCIGAR, just a quick thanks. About 8 months ago I read your various posts above regarding gum arabic. Like you, I was going thru pricey PerfecRepair too often. I’ve been following your suggestion and using gum arabic ever since. Inexpensive. Works great. And bonus, it doesn’t leave the crusty pectin, as you said. Thanks! If anyone else is interested: Rinse an empty PerfecRepair bottle. Don’t lose the ball bearing. Mix roughly 1 tsp gum arabic to 2 tsp distilled water in a small bowl with a fork or small whisk. Funnel into the PR bottle. Again, thank you NSX 🙂 5
Ford2112 Posted January 28, 2024 Author Posted January 28, 2024 20 hours ago, GoodStix said: @NSXCIGAR, just a quick thanks. About 8 months ago I read your various posts above regarding gum arabic. Like you, I was going thru pricey PerfecRepair too often. I’ve been following your suggestion and using gum arabic ever since. Inexpensive. Works great. And bonus, it doesn’t leave the crusty pectin, as you said. Thanks! If anyone is else is interested: Rinse an empty PerfecRepair bottle. Don’t lose the ball bearing. Mix roughly 2 tsp gum arabic to 1 tsp distilled water in a small bowl with a fork or small whisk. Funnel into the PR bottle. Again, thank you NSX 🙂 @GoodStix thanks for reviving this. I had forgotten I used to have La Fuerzas 😞 1
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